Ren'Py Project V [v0.0.4] [Biterrois]

[Harem Trooper]

I cant believe I gooned to a Heavy-Moded-Sims-Game turned into a Visual novel...but that nasty goth babe Tessa with those hips and boobs surly can do wonders. Sad to hear that NTR and "NTR-ish" scene are just skipped and not avoidable, but the stuff I saw on the "movie" files are still hot if you want a good wank. Kinda wild how such a game can get this good NSFW animations But yeah not a fan of futa or that cuck stuff, still good luck with that project and perhaps in the future we will see something new games from you. But if there is a game without that but with the same models and animations Im all ears. Never I thought I would have my eyes open for porn games made in a sims engine.

 

[Harem Trooper]

With NTR disabled you win in a mini game and your prize is watching your girlfriend fuck her sister, and then your mother calls you while getting fucked by someone. Cucks are really lost in the sauce huh

Dev said "interpretation" ... meanwhile the interpretation ->

Spoiler: MOM NTR

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But I checked the current version and test both aka non-ntr and ntr paths to see if there is a difference between them or its just a bug, but turns out this last scene was skipped as the rest still happens...which is mind baffling since the typical Mom-NTR-on-Phone with the lustful moaning still happens ->

Spoiler: Also this happens in the background lol

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Kinda a dejavu moment for me. It’s the same story again: the dev swears it’s not going to be the focus yet the whole foundation is built on it. And once you actually play and compare both paths you realize the non-NTR route is bare-bones to the point it feels like an afterthought. Honestly it comes across like an insult to your intelligence.

You know what I mean? On the NTR side you can tell the dev put thought into it - the scenarios have detail, whether it’s random voyeur setups, the mom-NTR angle or your friend banging your girlfriend lol. But when you play the other path, it feels like he just slapped together quick fixes to tick a box and move on. We’ve seen countless games pull the same move. No surprise that even if you skip the scene, it still feels like NTR happened, because nothing meaningful is offered as a replacement.

And if you care: the futa content is with Ms. Sterling - the woman you work for when checking her photos. Which is kinda sad, because I actually like those uptight, bratty MILF types who need a younger guy to put them in their place. But nope, it’s futa-only content. So yeah, looks like you will miss out on that character too. It dosent look better as I got lured by the Harem tag, turns out its just Polygamy or in Devs words "Fuck-Fiesta" so im not sure if its just once again lying or not knowing what the difference between those are. In the end, it’s just another one of those games where the dev says it’s “side content” - but surprise, surprise, it ends up being the complete opposite. Hope that helps

 

[Ken Moreno]

Dev said "interpretation" ... meanwhile the interpretation ->

Spoiler: MOM NTR

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But I checked the current version and test both aka non-ntr and ntr paths to see if there is a difference between them or its just a bug, but turns out this last scene was skipped as the rest still happens...which is mind baffling since the typical Mom-NTR-on-Phone with the lustful moaning still happens ->

Spoiler: Also this happens in the background lol

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Kinda a dejavu moment for me. It’s the same story again: the dev swears it’s not going to be the focus yet the whole foundation is built on it. And once you actually play and compare both paths you realize the non-NTR route is bare-bones to the point it feels like an afterthought. Honestly it comes across like an insult to your intelligence.

You know what I mean? On the NTR side you can tell the dev put thought into it - the scenarios have detail, whether it’s random voyeur setups, the mom-NTR angle or your friend banging your girlfriend lol. But when you play the other path, it feels like he just slapped together quick fixes to tick a box and move on. We’ve seen countless games pull the same move. No surprise that even if you skip the scene, it still feels like NTR happened, because nothing meaningful is offered as a replacement.

And if you care: the futa content is with Ms. Sterling - the woman you work for when checking her photos. Which is kinda sad, because I actually like those uptight, bratty MILF types who need a younger guy to put them in their place. But nope, it’s futa-only content. So yeah, looks like you will miss out on that character too. It dosent look better as I got lured by the Harem tag, turns out its just Polygamy or in Devs words "Fuck-Fiesta" so im not sure if its just once again lying or not knowing what the difference between those are. In the end, it’s just another one of those games where the dev says it’s “side content” - but surprise, surprise, it ends up being the complete opposite. Hope that helps

I disagree the game literally just started barely has any content you can't really say the sole focus of the game is the NTR side or that it has the most focus when the overall game is still very barebones for both non and NTR content. I am personally playing for the futa NTR content and other than the small sneak peaks we got for the mom and the small futa boss there nothing else so I don't really see it being the main focus especially when you already have a scene with the mom literally sucking the MC off and lets not even mention the scenes with the best friend and the girlfriend I say there more content with the MC than there is NTR content.

I won't get in to the NTR vs non NTR debate because honestly its unproductive and beaten to death on this site but I feel like the dev has planned to make content for all types of players and types of paths just because right now a character has a NTR scene doesnt mean it wont get a scene with the MC and vice versa like I said it's unfair to judge the content and direction of a game when it literally still like in super early development also just toggle off NTR if you don't enjoy it I am not sure why it bothers people so much for games to have optional content you can turn off and never see again, I personally do not like harem or vanilla content so if a game has it I either skip it or just ignore it doesn't bother me either way.

I think the best course of action is to wait for the game to develop at least a bit more I'm sure with time it will have a variety of content for different types of players and added qol options among other things like I said the game is still way too early in development to judge it as a whole.

 

[Harem Trooper]

I disagree the game literally just started barely has any content you can't really say the sole focus of the game is the NTR side or that it has the most focus when the overall game is still very barebones for both non and NTR content. I am personally playing for the futa NTR content and other than the small sneak peaks we got for the mom and the small futa boss there nothing else so I don't really see it being the main focus especially when you already have a scene with the mom literally sucking the MC off and lets not even mention the scenes with the best friend and the girlfriend I say there more content with the MC than there is NTR content.

I won't get in to the NTR vs non NTR debate because honestly its unproductive and beaten to death on this site but I feel like the dev has planned to make content for all types of players and types of paths just because right now a character has a NTR scene doesnt mean it wont get a scene with the MC and vice versa like I said it's unfair to judge the content and direction of a game when it literally still like in super early development also just toggle off NTR if you don't enjoy it I am not sure why it bothers people so much for games to have optional content you can turn off and never see again, I personally do not like harem or vanilla content so if a game has it I either skip it or just ignore it doesn't bother me either way.

I think the best course of action is to wait for the game to develop at least a bit more I'm sure with time it will have a variety of content for different types of players and added qol options among other things like I said the game is still way too early in development to judge it as a whole.

Well, I can - it’s called pattern recognition. I’ve played enough games like this to notice the dejavu. For context, Medical Special Care is a good example: if you compare its overview and dev posts #85 with the actual paths, then play both games, you’ll see what I mean.

I never said it’s the sole focus now, but based on the structure, the way it plays out AND the dev’s own comments, it clearly leans that way, at least in my eyes. He’s admitted multiple times he’s into it and wants to expand on it #56, #85 and #106 (“What I plan”). Sure, nothing is set in stone but I can only judge by what’s actually there, not what “might” happen. Yet I’d be foolish to ignore statements like these:

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To be fair, if you haven’t played and only read certain posts (#156 or #124), you’d think it’s not the case. But then there are conflicting comments like #121. That’s why I tested it myself. I thought it would just be a side path, but it’s clearly more than that.

Also, thanks for pointing out the Mom HJ scene. I never got it. Same with the Eva/GF BJ scene on the bed. I’d like to know how those trigger, since they would indirectly prove my point IF they played out the same MC got his first two... : the amount of “throwaway” content doesn’t matter as much as what the dev actually puts thought into. On the NTR side, it’s clear he cares, random voyeur setups, the mom-NTR angle, the friend/sister (Tessa) banging your GF with the typical insults thrown at MC while the GF enjyoing it -> Yet irconily it seems to be completely pointless shoved in as I believe it was his day dream YET without him acknowledging why he dream of it... let alone that Voyeur Futa scene. Compare that to an unimpactful GF shower HJ or a fast-forwarded BJ with Tessa, and the difference in detail/intent speaks for itself.

Spoiler: To your last two points:

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I hope this clarification helps to understand it better, and no im fine with you enjoying it and I wont push for change. Just pointing out the obvious and remvoing specific tags is enough.

 

[Phase_01]

Dev said "interpretation" ... meanwhile the interpretation ->

Spoiler: MOM NTR

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But I checked the current version and test both aka non-ntr and ntr paths to see if there is a difference between them or its just a bug, but turns out this last scene was skipped as the rest still happens...which is mind baffling since the typical Mom-NTR-on-Phone with the lustful moaning still happens ->

Spoiler: Also this happens in the background lol

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Kinda a dejavu moment for me. It’s the same story again: the dev swears it’s not going to be the focus yet the whole foundation is built on it. And once you actually play and compare both paths you realize the non-NTR route is bare-bones to the point it feels like an afterthought. Honestly it comes across like an insult to your intelligence.

You know what I mean? On the NTR side you can tell the dev put thought into it - the scenarios have detail, whether it’s random voyeur setups, the mom-NTR angle or your friend banging your girlfriend lol. But when you play the other path, it feels like he just slapped together quick fixes to tick a box and move on. We’ve seen countless games pull the same move. No surprise that even if you skip the scene, it still feels like NTR happened, because nothing meaningful is offered as a replacement.

And if you care: the futa content is with Ms. Sterling - the woman you work for when checking her photos. Which is kinda sad, because I actually like those uptight, bratty MILF types who need a younger guy to put them in their place. But nope, it’s futa-only content. So yeah, looks like you will miss out on that character too. It dosent look better as I got lured by the Harem tag, turns out its just Polygamy or in Devs words "Fuck-Fiesta" so im not sure if its just once again lying or not knowing what the difference between those are. In the end, it’s just another one of those games where the dev says it’s “side content” - but surprise, surprise, it ends up being the complete opposite. Hope that helps

wtf i've never seen that first scene
i've had the phone call with the mother but it just showed her shoulders up, no other person in frame nor this view.

was this animated?

if it was removed it should be added back but have ntr/sharing/nts or whatever have a warning and option to disable at the start imo

 

[Biterrois]

Well, that was really nice reading all of your comments!
And those are all... right!

Right now, I still consider the game plot/content barebones, but still close to an okay foundation story-wise and quality, scenes
I do appreciate the fairness of all the comments : about what's in the game right now vs what it could/would become ;

About the concerns around the game shifting more into a too heavily NTR oriented (or any other type of content), it's one of my concerns from the start as well and it is not what I am aiming to do ; I'll try to explain the "development process" or why I think it may gives this impression currently from a technical/dev stand point, then story/lore one :

Though, I do understand the concerns because most of the comments I received and replied to were about it (wheter new NTR content is coming or if its possible to disable/avoid it)

So I created the censor tags and expanded the censored content around it so to be sure it would work ;
Unfortunately I wasn't rigorous enough to take into account the NTR-ish content from previous versions...
I'm still currently fixing those and trying my best to make sure this doesn't happen again, that's why the "focus" for the short term is "censored" content ;


Story/Lore-wise, the starting point is a MC that did not have opportunities/focus into having romantic relationships but hoping/dragged into it, in a world eco-system where characters have their own life going on ;
And to make it more believable that those characters could be influenced without too much grind, yeah, they have their innate share of feelings with or without MC ;

That's why right now, at the beginning, MC is not instantly a Don Juan having his way with all the love interests and is still finding his "way"/is guided, even if he is the one "triggering sparks" ; but still discovering the existing relationships ecosystem and eventually find how he will have a role in it (leader / bystander / mix ..?), and if NTR is activated : imagining fantasizing scenariis (though I know, even with NTR off, it still is fucked up...)

A "dating event" system will also be released at some point to go further into that idea

Eventually, I'm aiming to make all paths and content as deep as the others, I appreciate NTR, futa as much as a romantic exclusive relationship that could end in a wholesome way (hi preggo lover) ;

I still really appreciate the "debates" around the game and all I can ask is time to make things happen !

Finally, some insights about :
- trigerring scenes : once you get a minor spark, you can "replay it" /get the other path ones if you develop the "other feeling"

wtf i've never seen that first scene
i've had the phone call with the mother but it just showed her shoulders up, no other person in frame nor this view.

was this animated?

if it was removed it should be added back but have ntr/sharing/nts or whatever have a warning and option to disable at the start imo

- it's not in the game, but in the game files! I'm not too fond of showing "stuff" from a different/too far POV from MC for now, thats why it did not make it into the game
I know it does not make sense at all because it's literaly the point of this scene... and it happened for other scenes as well (Tessa entering MC's room...), I'm trying to keep the "action MC-centric" as much as possible ;
But it may become an ability of MC at some point to project his consciousness around, who knows...

 

[Biterrois]

Hope you keep some aesthetic stuff as potential ideas, like nipple piercings and womb tattoos, used condom belt/hanging on nipples
as part of the "outfit" change

Though of course its your game so whatever you wanna do, I'm liking what I'm seeing so far, and not sure how crazy you'd wanna take it.

Also wondering if the MC's father will be playing a role in the future? Whether involving sexually like with his mom/gf, or just storywise.

Sorry, forgot to reply to that and cant add the quote by editing my previous reply...
For the "ouftfit" ideas, yep, but we're still a long way from that stage

MC's father will definitely have a role storywise and an optional sexually one ;
Though not in the short term (mid-term for story, long-term sexually)

 

[Harem Trooper]

Thanks for the clarification on #186, though as you know actions speak louder then words but I apprechiete your honesty. After rereading my comments it could seen as just nagging, which was not the intent as I didnt provided at least some ides/fixes on current build, as I also mentioned that you already took action in trying to fix specific things:

Spoiler: The UI

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Spoiler: Adjust existing scenes

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Spoiler: Making it clear: Skipable or Avoidable

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Spoiler: Your plans on Futa approach

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Some things I still need to be informed:

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Lastly, something I’m surprised nobody has asked yet: how much content is actually possible to make with this Sim setup? Since the game isn’t running on DAZ3D but instead Sims 4 with LoversLab mods, I’m curious what the limitations are. I’m not too familiar with those mods - are there a lot of animations, sex positions, etc. to work with, or is it pretty limited and might become repetitive if the project goes on long enough? For example I thought Skyrim, which if im not wrong is THE game turned from normal to sex game, has still lack luster content aviable to work with.

Also, are the characters all original creations, or are they based on existing models from mod/character packs?

 

[Ken Moreno]

Thanks for the clarification on #186, though as you know actions speak louder then words but I apprechiete your honesty. After rereading my comments it could seen as just nagging, which was not the intent as I didnt provided at least some ides/fixes on current build, as I also mentioned that you already took action in trying to fix specific things:

Spoiler: The UI

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Spoiler: Your plans on Futa approach

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Some things I still need to be informed:

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Lastly, something I’m surprised nobody has asked yet: how much content is actually possible to make with this Sim setup? Since the game isn’t running on DAZ3D but instead Sims 4 with LoversLab mods, I’m curious what the limitations are. I’m not too familiar with those mods - are there a lot of animations, sex positions, etc. to work with, or is it pretty limited and might become repetitive if the project goes on long enough? For example I thought Skyrim, which if im not wrong is THE game turned from normal to sex game, has still lack luster content aviable to work with.

Also, are the characters all original creations, or are they based on existing models from mod/character packs?

Not trying to sound rude but please let the dev work on his own vision of the game I know we all have our own biases and favorite fetishes but I genuinely think we should let him do what he wants at the moment instead of trying to steer his development ideas in one way or another I know you don't mean bad but reading at your comment it sort of feels like that way if you get what I mean. I just hope the dev doesnt start changing stuff because people are telling him to I think listening to feedback is good but there should be a line so the dev works on what he think is the best for the game and the way he intended to be if that makes sense.

 

[Biterrois]

Thanks for the clarification on #186, though as you know actions speak louder then words but I apprechiete your honesty. After rereading my comments it could seen as just nagging, which was not the intent as I didnt provided at least some ides/fixes on current build, as I also mentioned that you already took action in trying to fix specific things:

Spoiler: The UI

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Spoiler: Adjust existing scenes

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Spoiler: Making it clear: Skipable or Avoidable

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Spoiler: Your plans on Futa approach

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Some things I still need to be informed:

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Lastly, something I’m surprised nobody has asked yet: how much content is actually possible to make with this Sim setup? Since the game isn’t running on DAZ3D but instead Sims 4 with LoversLab mods, I’m curious what the limitations are. I’m not too familiar with those mods - are there a lot of animations, sex positions, etc. to work with, or is it pretty limited and might become repetitive if the project goes on long enough? For example I thought Skyrim, which if im not wrong is THE game turned from normal to sex game, has still lack luster content aviable to work with.

Also, are the characters all original creations, or are they based on existing models from mod/character packs?

Thanks a lot for the ideas, I'll see what I can improve from them !

To answer your questions :
1. I forgot a "not"..!
I don't really focus the content on a specific definition, I just added the tags based on F95 guidelines and for harem it said "1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously", so I just added it as the others tags that fit the game...

2. and 3. As I said on my last reply, once you trigger a minor spark, I didn't want to create FOMO from the beginning, so the others choices can be picked if you develop the "other feeling" using the love button

4. I have no idea but not that much because I don't really have time to please everybody, that's why I've written on SubscribeStar: " I really appreciate the gesture but don't feel obliged to subscribe, as I do not need money to keep on going, I need time and prefer getting feedbacks all of sort ", what I have in mind either way that seems manageable :

• More "weight" in possible future polls
  • choose the order of content to develop FIRST (meaning the other content will be released just after, in the order of the votes)
  • When I dont know what do to between several possibilities (hair color of a character...)

My only concern with polls with too much impact is dividing people expectations, that's why I dont want them to be too "impactful"

• Minor "custom" addition (Comments on Lily_Neko's profile, secondary character name, a random secret/prop one-time interaction that could give money or lust/love power idk)

That's the stuff that I feel is the more fun and cool to do, I'm open to any easy idea to implement!

(5).
Well, just using all the content and ideas, you actually make a loooot of vanilla content, (i.e. both working place are just using assets then coding interactions)
If you were talking about sexual content there are also a looooot of available content as well and honestly, I've used a little fraction of it, and even if I had to reuse some, by changing the context, characters, sound, perspective... I feel like I could be make it enjoyable as well (but still, no need to do it at all)
If you're curious, just check WickedWhims website animators lists and you'll get what I mean

About the characters, honestly I dont remember because my game save is at least 6 years old... But all are either my own creation, or existing creation from any CC website I've gathered over the year, that I modify myself afterwards ;
(Sorry, now that I'm reading what I've written I guess it doesn't really help you but I honestly cant remember... I'm pretty sure at least Tessa is my original creation cuz she's my favourite one!)



Also, this actually really summed up my mindset :

Not trying to sound rude but please let the dev work on his own vision of the game I know we all have our own biases and favorite fetishes but I genuinely think we should let him do what he wants at the moment instead of trying to steer his development ideas in one way or another I know you don't mean bad but reading at your comment it sort of feels like that way if you get what I mean. I just hope the dev doesnt start changing stuff because people are telling him to I think listening to feedback is good but there should be a line so the dev works on what he think is the best for the game and the way he intended to be if that makes sense.

Meaning, the game is and will always be a passion project !
If people like it, good! If not, it's still okay! There are so many other games on F95 to enjoy!

So I'll take and read everything people have to say about it, "digest" it, will feed from the ideas that can either make better and/or more enjoyable to everyone from my point of view and my capabilities (Hideo father, option to stop the auto skip dialogues...)

But for the current and future main content, ideas and scenes, I will not really change my mindset (changing MC's initial appearance, stopping to make one type content, stopping to make clunky minigames actually, I might rework the fighting game at some point because it was the very first thing I did just to try stuff and its awful but I feel like it has some legacy so idk....)

 

[Bestigger]

Thanks a lot for the ideas, I'll see what I can improve from them !

To answer your questions :
1. I forgot a "not"..!
I don't really focus the content on a specific definition, I just added the tags based on F95 guidelines and for harem it said "1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously", so I just added it as the others tags that fit the game...

2. and 3. As I said on my last reply, once you trigger a minor spark, I didn't want to create FOMO from the beginning, so the others choices can be picked if you develop the "other feeling" using the love button

4. I have no idea but not that much because I don't really have time to please everybody, that's why I've written on SubscribeStar: " I really appreciate the gesture but don't feel obliged to subscribe, as I do not need money to keep on going, I need time and prefer getting feedbacks all of sort ", what I have in mind either way that seems manageable :

• More "weight" in possible future polls
  • choose the order of content to develop FIRST (meaning the other content will be released just after, in the order of the votes)
  • When I dont know what do to between several possibilities (hair color of a character...)

My only concern with polls with too much impact is dividing people expectations, that's why I dont want them to be too "impactful"

• Minor "custom" addition (Comments on Lily_Neko's profile, secondary character name, a random secret/prop one-time interaction that could give money or lust/love power idk)

That's the stuff that I feel is the more fun and cool to do, I'm open to any easy idea to implement!

(5).
Well, just using all the content and ideas, you actually make a loooot of vanilla content, (i.e. both working place are just using assets then coding interactions)
If you were talking about sexual content there are also a looooot of available content as well and honestly, I've used a little fraction of it, and even if I had to reuse some, by changing the context, characters, sound, perspective... I feel like I could be make it enjoyable as well (but still, no need to do it at all)
If you're curious, just check WickedWhims website animators lists and you'll get what I mean

About the characters, honestly I dont remember because my game save is at least 6 years old... But all are either my own creation, or existing creation from any CC website I've gathered over the year, that I modify myself afterwards ;
(Sorry, now that I'm reading what I've written I guess it doesn't really help you but I honestly cant remember... I'm pretty sure at least Tessa is my original creation cuz she's my favourite one!)



Also, this actually really summed up my mindset :


Meaning, the game is and will always be a passion project !
If people like it, good! If not, it's still okay! There are so many other games on F95 to enjoy!

So I'll take and read everything people have to say about it, "digest" it, will feed from the ideas that can either make better and/or more enjoyable to everyone from my point of view and my capabilities (Hideo father, option to stop the auto skip dialogues...)

But for the current and future main content, ideas and scenes, I will not really change my mindset (changing MC's initial appearance, stopping to make one type content, stopping to make clunky minigames actually, I might rework the fighting game at some point because it was the very first thing I did just to try stuff and its awful but I feel like it has some legacy so idk....)

giv ubdet thanks

But for real you seem like you have enough of an idea on where you want to go with this project so props.

 

[Harem Trooper]

Not trying to sound rude but please let the dev work on his own vision of the game I know we all have our own biases and favorite fetishes but I genuinely think we should let him do what he wants at the moment instead of trying to steer his development ideas in one way or another I know you don't mean bad but reading at your comment it sort of feels like that way if you get what I mean. I just hope the dev doesnt start changing stuff because people are telling him to I think listening to feedback is good but there should be a line so the dev works on what he think is the best for the game and the way he intended to be if that makes sense.

I agree though that wasn’t really my intent. From experience I feel it’s better to let the dev shape things how they imagine without too much outside influence. My suggestions come from someone who likes harem content, but I tried to keep them as neutral as possible. I get that you enjoy it as it is and hopefully it keeps developing in a way you like too despite my concern about topics I meantion earlier. No worries, no harm taken.

To answer your questions :
1. I forgot a "not"..!
I don't really focus the content on a specific definition, I just added the tags based on F95 guidelines

Spoiler: About the - I forgot a "not"

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Spoiler: triggering a minor spark

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So you’re telling me there’s more naughty stuff out there on the web? I’ve seen a few Sims porn games here, but not much. Mostly female-protagonist focused and most was done by the same single dude/chick. And when I checked naughty videos online, it was mostly futa, furry, gangbangs… you get the idea. I assumed that’s the generic theme in that modding community, which would kind of limit their use for “normal” content. But hey, you seem more informed about it and if that’s true, it’s a welcome surprise.

And of course Tessa is your favorite… or did you expect anyone to say otherwise? Hot goth chicks with good models are kinda rare. Normally I’d skip Sims-based games since they’re usually low on my radar, but even this fiesty chick had me hooked which made stick around to see how much content involves her. Even if it’s not exactly my thing whats planed in the future, the scenes are still hot and we can always do our own headcanon.

Ms. Sterling is also appealing; her character feels more distinct compared to Eva, who is currently pretty bland (sorry). I’m curious how she’ll develop if the futa content doesn’t happen. Can’t say much about the Mom yet, her model looks mature yet hot enough to bang, but I haven’t experienced her scene so I cant tell. All I’ve seen is that phone NTR scene with her black servant.

Now, what are the chances Tessa will have a hot sister? Or even a goth mom? And what do you think about rivalry? Like competing over a love interest against another male/douche, or even another LI if lesbian/futa paths are activated?

 

[Biterrois]

I agree though that wasn’t really my intent. From experience I feel it’s better to let the dev shape things how they imagine without too much outside influence. My suggestions come from someone who likes harem content, but I tried to keep them as neutral as possible. I get that you enjoy it as it is and hopefully it keeps developing in a way you like too despite my concern about topics I meantion earlier. No worries, no harm taken.

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So you’re telling me there’s more naughty stuff out there on the web? I’ve seen a few Sims porn games here, but not much. Mostly female-protagonist focused and most was done by the same single dude/chick. And when I checked naughty videos online, it was mostly futa, furry, gangbangs… you get the idea. I assumed that’s the generic theme in that modding community, which would kind of limit their use for “normal” content. But hey, you seem more informed about it and if that’s true, it’s a welcome surprise.

And of course Tessa is your favorite… or did you expect anyone to say otherwise? Hot goth chicks with good models are kinda rare. Normally I’d skip Sims-based games since they’re usually low on my radar, but even this fiesty chick had me hooked which made stick around to see how much content involves her. Even if it’s not exactly my thing whats planed in the future, the scenes are still hot and we can always do our own headcanon.

Ms. Sterling is also appealing; her character feels more distinct compared to Eva, who is currently pretty bland (sorry). I’m curious how she’ll develop if the futa content doesn’t happen. Can’t say much about the Mom yet, her model looks mature yet hot enough to bang, but I haven’t experienced her scene so I cant tell. All I’ve seen is that phone NTR scene with her black servant.

Now, what are the chances Tessa will have a hot sister? Or even a goth mom? And what do you think about rivalry? Like competing over a love interest against another male/douche, or even another LI if lesbian/futa paths are activated?

About harem, yeah, I guess you're right : I'm more following the same way of Akabur's Princess Trainer i.e. the courting is "implicit"/indirect..? Hopefully, the next update will satisfy your expectations about the "consensual sex", I won't go too much into details because I do share the motto "actions before words"..!


About the "feelings" each char has a love and lust "meter", that must be increased and are prerequisites for the spark
The bubbles are resources to use MC's powers to increase the "feelings" through the "magic"/blue button interaction
Once you triggered a minor spark, for Eva through her lust let's say ; you unlock the "Love" Button to "repeat" the scene/spark.
But in the meantime, you developed her love, you may "repeat the spark" and choose another option (passion or love in this setup)
It's a design I choosed for the minor spark to reduce FOMO

About Tessa, again its still words before actions but still... you maybe hit the nait on the head (for the MILF part), for both Tessa and Eva as well...
Rivalry will also be a thing and kinda hinted already in both directions, and could end up in various ways... (Deb vs Eva for MC, MC vs Sterling for Chloe, friends vs MC for a Lily_Neko..?, more to come.....)

Finally, Eva being bland is actually by design : my goal was to make her "pure", a blank canvas with just enough exposition to kick start the relationship ahead compared to the others (I'm kinda bored from the sandbox/dating games where all relationships start from 0 and each progression feels the same, from the social aspect I mean...), she will get more story and "personality" development and be the most "adjustable to MC's purposes..." in the long run

 

[Ken Moreno]

About harem, yeah, I guess you're right : I'm more following the same way of Akabur's Princess Trainer i.e. the courting is "implicit"/indirect..? Hopefully, the next update will satisfy your expectations about the "consensual sex", I won't go too much into details because I do share the motto "actions before words"..!


About the "feelings" each char has a love and lust "meter", that must be increased and are prerequisites for the spark
The bubbles are resources to use MC's powers to increase the "feelings" through the "magic"/blue button interaction
Once you triggered a minor spark, for Eva through her lust let's say ; you unlock the "Love" Button to "repeat" the scene/spark.
But in the meantime, you developed her love, you may "repeat the spark" and choose another option (passion or love in this setup)
It's a design I choosed for the minor spark to reduce FOMO

About Tessa, again its still words before actions but still... you maybe hit the nait on the head (for the MILF part), for both Tessa and Eva as well...
Rivalry will also be a thing and kinda hinted already in both directions, and could end up in various ways... (Deb vs Eva for MC, MC vs Sterling for Chloe, friends vs MC for a Lily_Neko..?, more to come.....)

Finally, Eva being bland is actually by design : my goal was to make her "pure", a blank canvas with just enough exposition to kick start the relationship ahead compared to the others (I'm kinda bored from the sandbox/dating games where all relationships start from 0 and each progression feels the same, from the social aspect I mean...), she will get more story and "personality" development and be the most "adjustable to MC's purposes..." in the long run

After reading this I did have a question regarding the spark system especially the lust one how does it work for characters that are not the MC for example me who is mostly interested on the futa NTR content I know the Sterling one with Chloe triggers because there already something there, so my question is can you use your powers and spark something between other characters that might know each other less? for example if I wanted for Sterling to bang the MC mom is there a way to trigger lust or something to make it happen for example to make the mom lust over Sterling? so they eventually have sex, I am still not quite sure how it works for content between other people that are not the MC. I know there are some main rules for sparks which sort of flew past my head a little especially for those no involving the MC.

Also if I wanted for Sterling to meet the MC mom how would the player make this happen would it be some sort of scripted event? or would there be an option to bring one character from one area to another I'm am curious.

I hope my questions don't sound too confusing lol

 

[Harem Trooper]

About harem, yeah, I guess you're right : I'm more following the same way of Akabur's Princess Trainer i.e. the courting is "implicit"/indirect..? Hopefully, the next update will satisfy your expectations about the "consensual sex", I won't go too much into details because I do share the motto "actions before words"..!


About the "feelings" each char has a love and lust "meter", that must be increased and are prerequisites for the spark
The bubbles are resources to use MC's powers to increase the "feelings" through the "magic"/blue button interaction
Once you triggered a minor spark, for Eva through her lust let's say ; you unlock the "Love" Button to "repeat" the scene/spark.
But in the meantime, you developed her love, you may "repeat the spark" and choose another option (passion or love in this setup)
It's a design I choosed for the minor spark to reduce FOMO

About Tessa, again its still words before actions but still... you maybe hit the nait on the head (for the MILF part), for both Tessa and Eva as well...
Rivalry will also be a thing and kinda hinted already in both directions, and could end up in various ways... (Deb vs Eva for MC, MC vs Sterling for Chloe, friends vs MC for a Lily_Neko..?, more to come.....)

Finally, Eva being bland is actually by design : my goal was to make her "pure", a blank canvas with just enough exposition to kick start the relationship ahead compared to the others (I'm kinda bored from the sandbox/dating games where all relationships start from 0 and each progression feels the same, from the social aspect I mean...), she will get more story and "personality" development and be the most "adjustable to MC's purposes..." in the long run

Hm, Princess Trainer. Implicit or indirect? I played it too, but I’m not sure I get the connection. You mean how the MC/player romanced the other love interests, being the main driving force while they mostly reacted to interactions, gifts and quests? But if the love interests don’t know about each other and dont “compete” for the MC, I’m not sure it really counts as a harem.

Also don’t worry about feeling pressured to create a certain way. If the MC’s actions go into extreme stuff like non consensual sex, it’s fine as long as it makes sense for the story. Though I have to say the MC feels a bit like a loser right now. I read you have plans for MC later how he will look later so lets see.

About the spark mechanic: it doesn’t seem to work on the scenes I mentioned, so I started a new save but still nothing. How much of each bubble do I need for Mom and Eva? Otherwise, I’ll just wait for the next update.

On a more good note, the dress-up mechanic might be bare-bones but since it’s Sims-style, you could have plenty of outfits to play with. I’m curious how far you can push it in Ren’Py.

Lastly, I think there might have been a misunderstanding with my earlier remarks. Most players don’t mind if an LI already has a partner or a secret affair. What they care about is the act itself, aka if they did it already or not. So instead of overworking yourself on alternative routes for the sole reason to keep them pure, you can stick to the main path and indicate in the story when something happens, letting the player choose whether to intervene or not.

For example, Mom could have a secret affair with the servant. The phone scene could happen as canon, but initially it’s not explicitly clear. Then, at a specific point, the MC gets informed, sees, or learns that she’s cheating by either her doing the thing/already did the thing, or is about to since she is only currently flirted/corrupted by and the MC can intervenes - mostly for his end goals . This could be applied to other love interests too, or even male antagonists who are interested in the same girls, giving the player a chance to compete or intervene.

Though from what I read, this game is more of a “loser-to-player” (with a bit of mystery) story improving the MC while keeping things lighthearted rather than deep or groundbreaking.

PS: Why do you have Lily-Neko as Avatar instead of the Hot Tessa is beyond my mortal comprehension

 

[TheDreadedEnd]

That is some quality shit I tasted, damn dev. Keep up great work. BTW, can I have harem path (be it any kind like GF is aware of it or not and encourages you or something, or more like harem for someone else or a group like futas and you are just a cuck or a participant into her/their harems, as I said any kind, doesn't matter to me) with futa NTR/NTS but absolutely no men NTR/NTS? Except MC, I am not a fan of anything sexual coming from men, can they be completely avoidable, not just skippable?

 

[Suslik575151]

I'll just, uh, leave this here and see myself out.

 

[Phase_01]

I'll just, uh, leave this here and see myself out.

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Has the dev even stated what he renders in? Whole time I was assuming this was in Sims itself, and not just exporting Sims modded models into Unreal.

I've never even heard of anyone saying ever saying Unreal is worse for rendering than HS and Daz lol, those two aren't even built for rendering they're for character creation.

I can understand saying Unreal games are bad cuz devs dont optimize but I've never seen people complain about its rendering, other than it looking the same when every dev tries to do realism, which this game clearly doesn't

 

[Biterrois]

After reading this I did have a question regarding the spark system especially the lust one how does it work for characters that are not the MC for example me who is mostly interested on the futa NTR content I know the Sterling one with Chloe triggers because there already something there, so my question is can you use your powers and spark something between other characters that might know each other less? for example if I wanted for Sterling to bang the MC mom is there a way to trigger lust or something to make it happen for example to make the mom lust over Sterling? so they eventually have sex, I am still not quite sure how it works for content between other people that are not the MC. I know there are some main rules for sparks which sort of flew past my head a little especially for those no involving the MC.

Also if I wanted for Sterling to meet the MC mom how would the player make this happen would it be some sort of scripted event? or would there be an option to bring one character from one area to another I'm am curious.

I hope my questions don't sound too confusing lol

Yeah, developing others characters relationships will be a thing starting 0.1.X, the very first meeting will be a scripted event, then a daily 'in background' progression with 'unknown spark' appearing, sometimes, out of blue, sometimes with hints during the process ;
You'll see a glimpse of that in the next update with Eva's job system

Hm, Princess Trainer. Implicit or indirect? I played it too, but I’m not sure I get the connection. You mean how the MC/player romanced the other love interests, being the main driving force while they mostly reacted to interactions, gifts and quests? But if the love interests don’t know about each other and dont “compete” for the MC, I’m not sure it really counts as a harem.

Also don’t worry about feeling pressured to create a certain way. If the MC’s actions go into extreme stuff like non consensual sex, it’s fine as long as it makes sense for the story. Though I have to say the MC feels a bit like a loser right now. I read you have plans for MC later how he will look later so lets see.

About the spark mechanic: it doesn’t seem to work on the scenes I mentioned, so I started a new save but still nothing. How much of each bubble do I need for Mom and Eva? Otherwise, I’ll just wait for the next update.

On a more good note, the dress-up mechanic might be bare-bones but since it’s Sims-style, you could have plenty of outfits to play with. I’m curious how far you can push it in Ren’Py.

Lastly, I think there might have been a misunderstanding with my earlier remarks. Most players don’t mind if an LI already has a partner or a secret affair. What they care about is the act itself, aka if they did it already or not. So instead of overworking yourself on alternative routes for the sole reason to keep them pure, you can stick to the main path and indicate in the story when something happens, letting the player choose whether to intervene or not.

For example, Mom could have a secret affair with the servant. The phone scene could happen as canon, but initially it’s not explicitly clear. Then, at a specific point, the MC gets informed, sees, or learns that she’s cheating by either her doing the thing/already did the thing, or is about to since she is only currently flirted/corrupted by and the MC can intervenes - mostly for his end goals . This could be applied to other love interests too, or even male antagonists who are interested in the same girls, giving the player a chance to compete or intervene.

Though from what I read, this game is more of a “loser-to-player” (with a bit of mystery) story improving the MC while keeping things lighthearted rather than deep or groundbreaking.

PS: Why do you have Lily-Neko as Avatar instead of the Hot Tessa is beyond my mortal comprehension

Lots of good ideas, but yeah, you got the gist of it, we're in the "loser-to-player", though "player" isnt the only "end-result"...
And about Lily-Neko, I just needed a profile picture for the SusbcribeStar so I started to replicate the website and all, then I liked the result and kept in the game..! And I want to keep each kind of content fair and equal even if I have my preferences, they vary from time to time!

That is some quality shit I tasted, damn dev. Keep up great work. BTW, can I have harem path (be it any kind like GF is aware of it or not and encourages you or something, or more like harem for someone else or a group like futas and you are just a cuck or a participant into her/their harems, as I said any kind, doesn't matter to me) with futa NTR/NTS but absolutely no men NTR/NTS? Except MC, I am not a fan of anything sexual coming from men, can they be completely avoidable, not just skippable?

My goal is to make differrent kind of harem, where MC is in and or out of the action ;
I guess what you refer is gay content, it is not really plan for now as it is not something I am into ; so I am not even sure I could create good content about it... I'm kinda open to borderline trap/femboy stuff, still, not planned in the short/mid term and that would be in the censor parameters

Has the dev even stated what he renders in? Whole time I was assuming this was in Sims itself, and not just exporting Sims modded models into Unreal.

I've never even heard of anyone saying ever saying Unreal is worse for rendering than HS and Daz lol, those two aren't even built for rendering they're for character creation.

I can understand saying Unreal games are bad cuz devs dont optimize but I've never seen people complain about its rendering, other than it looking the same when every dev tries to do realism, which this game clearly doesn't

yeah its sims and sims only!
My goal is actually to make it feel like it isnt as much as possible using other graphic tools and shaders so I'll take that comparison with unreal as a compliment!



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On a final note, I am afraid the next update will be for the end of the month for two reasons :
- I went a bit crazy with the scenes and got more work and editing than I had originally in mind : to give you some insight, right now, the game has precisely 131 movie files that were done from 0.0.1 til 0.0.4, and right now I have recorded ~100 new ones to add!
- I got COVID-ed and it was shiiit for a week

 

[TheDreadedEnd]

My goal is to make differrent kind of harem, where MC is in and or out of the action ;
I guess what you refer is gay content, it is not really plan for now as it is not something I am into ; so I am not even sure I could create good content about it... I'm kinda open to borderline trap/femboy stuff, still, not planned in the short/mid term and that would be in the censor parameters

No, no that is not what I mean. I am talking about the harem of LIs (consisting of females, futas or both) getting fucked by females and futas only (whether amongst themselves, outsiders or both) as Lesbian NTR/NTS and Futa NTR/NTS and not getting fucked by males (no male NTR/NTS). Not the gay part where MC get fucked by males, however I absolutely don't mind, in fact, encourage futas fuck MC. Maybe futas fucking other males is fine, not other way around. So that is what I am asking, will it be possible not to let any male come near or fuck any female or futa (related or close to MC), thus completely avoiding male NTR/NTS, not just skipping it? And dev, get well soon and be safe out there!