VN Ren'Py Projekt: Passion [S3 v0.15] [Classy Lemon]

[CrazyRabbit]

Genuine question for the AVN expert analysts out there. How do I get people to talk about my game more? Is it because my frequent but rather short updates don't leave much room for discussion or is my game just not engaging enough?

I'll admit that it does get a little discouraging to see any discussion die out in a couple of days so I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to improve it.

From what I saw in other threads ; controversy is what gets a game to get talked about.
Whether it's the delay of updates or characters definitions.
For the latter, usually you find incertainty or tragedy with the other characters ; not really knowing if they're on your side (at least truly and for the long run) or having their story utterly tragic (or classic tragic but because of their own stupidity).
That was I saw the most in threads like BaDIK, Intertwined, Friends in Need, etc...

I'm not saying it's really is the case or even that it'll make your game more talked about ; just my 2 cents of what I witnessed.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Cross-promotions seems to be a popular way to do it.

Do more cross-promo on Patreon. I literally rolled through your entire Patreon feed and there has only been one, and it's fairly recent, with a dev that has roughly only the same level of support as you. Try to do more with more popular devs.

Do more cross-cameos in game. I know it's harder for a cameo to make sense for a game set in an undetermined future timeline, but there are no rules that says the cameos have to be related to the original game's story. Get creative. Maybe the cameo can appear as your characters watching some kind of entertainment or documentary from the distant past? Or them playing some kind of video games? You've got a character jealously guarding what's on her laptop screen already, hint hint.

That could work too. Lemon you could try with the developers of other sci-fi games, like Tales from the Unending Void.

 

[Classy Lemon]

Sorry to burst your bubble but that really wasn't the case, at least with BADIK. It had more than 20 pages in the thread by the end of the first day and over 75 pages by the end of the first week. It was literally the most highly anticipated new AVN when it first came out. And back then it wasn't long interval between releases. Most well established and popular games now still don't get as much discussion as BADIK did when it first came out just under 4 years ago.

Yeah but 4 years ago was like 100 years ago and there were barely any other AVNs to talk about that weren't japanese

 

[Classy Lemon]

That could work too. Lemon you could try with the developers of other sci-fi games, like Tales from the Unending Void.

You can't just go to someone three times bigger than you and ask for cross-promotion, that's insanity

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

You can't just go to someone three times bigger than you and ask for cross-promotion, that's insanity

Hey at worse you get a no as answer and at best free advertise to a thousand patrons.

 

[Phase_01]

Sorry to burst your bubble but that really wasn't the case, at least with BADIK. It had more than 20 pages in the thread by the end of the first day and over 75 pages by the end of the first week. It was literally the most highly anticipated new AVN when it first came out. And back then it wasn't long interval between releases. Most well established and popular games now still don't get as much discussion as BADIK did when it first came out just under 4 years ago.

I stand corrected then.
That means BADIK can't be used as reference by anyone since I'm assuming it was a new game in its class. I haven't played AVNs for long but from what I've seen, seems like western AVNs weren't that popular until BADIK era, and copycats/others venturing into the medium came out.

 

[Phase_01]

Congrats on being a toxic ass from someone asking a question. Good job, good effort, round of applause.

Just replied to a condescending comment.

I apologize for intruding, but seems like Donjoe said that "condescending comment" to someone who was being "condescending" to the person who posted a tutorial on how to add signatures. Imo it was warranted, what's easy for some isnt easy for others, so Donjoe imo didnt do anything wrong there.

They were a bit mean to the person asking about female protagonist, I won't share my feelings on that matter, just think this conversation between you two started with a misunderstanding.

Peace!

 

[slick97]

You can't just go to someone three times bigger than you and ask for cross-promotion, that's insanity

It might be insanity, but just imagine the payoff if Perverteer says yes! You two could create an empire of sci-fi VNs and dominate the market

Shitposting aside, it's honestly worth reaching out to him and planting the idea of cross-promotion early on. You're producing some high quality content that I think any dev would feel comfortable with including a brief cameo/crossover to help signal boost you game.

I apologize for intruding, but seems like Donjoe said that "condescending comment" to someone who was being "condescending" to the person who posted a tutorial on how to add signatures. Imo it was warranted, what's easy for some isnt easy for others, so Donjoe imo didnt do anything wrong there.

They were a bit mean to the person asking about female protagonist, I won't share my feelings on that matter, just think this conversation between you two started with a misunderstanding.

Peace!

I personally didn't see it as condescending, but I typically try to avoid interpreting responses in a negative light. It's difficult to interpret context from text unless you want to spam emojis.

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Alright, back on topic so we don't incur the wrath of the fun police... Classy Lemon, when are you going to pull a James Cameron (or maybe a BioWare would fit better in this context?) and allow us to fuck the blue alien babe? The teasing and innuendos are reaching critical mass and I'm legitimately scared it'll cause a black hole to form, especially since we already got a spicy scene with the hot demon Vesnia.

 

[M.Sato]

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Hey at worse you get a no as answer and at best free advertise to a thousand patrons.

You are a porn dev, in a pirate forum. Like the girl wondering how many OnlyFans followers is too many, the point of being shy is long behind you.

 

[nyrek]

Alright, back on topic so we don't incur the wrath of the fun police... Classy Lemon, when are you going to pull a James Cameron (or maybe a BioWare would fit better in this context?) and allow us to fuck the blue alien babe?

 

[Cabin Fever]

You can't just go to someone three times bigger than you and ask for cross-promotion, that's insanity

No, that's not insanity. Not asking because you are afraid of a little rejection is insanity.

Besides, I've already given you ideas on how to cross with a non-sci-fi game. Some devs are known to do crossing just because they like each other's work.

 

[Dripping]

Sooo you're saying I should start milking this

I suggest you add Micro Transactions.
"Add $4.99 and a girl looking like Ashe may visit your home to kill you. But then, she might not."

 

[Classy Lemon]

I suggest you add Micro Transactions.
"Add $4.99 and a girl looking like Ashe may visit your home to kill you. But then, she might not."

You know what, I might as well put all Ashe content behind a paywall. That shouldn't piss off too many people right?

 

[Classy Lemon]

Alright, back on topic so we don't incur the wrath of the fun police... Classy Lemon, when are you going to pull a James Cameron (or maybe a BioWare would fit better in this context?) and allow us to fuck the blue alien babe? The teasing and innuendos are reaching critical mass and I'm legitimately scared it'll cause a black hole to form, especially since we already got a spicy scene with the hot demon Vesnia.

It will literally NEVER happen.

 

[Classy Lemon]

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You are a porn dev, in a pirate forum. Like the girl wondering how many OnlyFans followers is too many, the point of being shy is long behind you.

Don't come here with your logic

 

[Classy Lemon]

No, that's not insanity. Not asking because you are afraid of a little rejection is insanity.

Besides, I've already given you ideas on how to cross with a non-sci-fi game. Some devs are known to do crossing just because they like each other's work.

Fine I'll ask around. Sheesh

 

[Cabin Fever]

Mr. Lemon, what did you do here? That wasn't my post. I refuse to take credit for what slick97 said!

 

[Dripping]

You know what, I might as well put all Ashe content behind a paywall. That shouldn't piss off too many people right?

At least normal people should be on team Kaylee, SAndrA or Elysra anyway (and in that order too )

 

[lipe2410]

Genuine question for the AVN expert analysts out there. How do I get people to talk about my game more? Is it because my frequent but rather short updates don't leave much room for discussion or is my game just not engaging enough?

I'll admit that it does get a little discouraging to see any discussion die out in a couple of days so I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to improve it.

Waifu war. Start a waifu war.

 

[Donjoe81]

I apologize for intruding, but seems like Donjoe said that "condescending comment" to someone who was being "condescending" to the person who posted a tutorial on how to add signatures. Imo it was warranted, what's easy for some isnt easy for others, so Donjoe imo didnt do anything wrong there.

They were a bit mean to the person asking about female protagonist, I won't share my feelings on that matter, just think this conversation between you two started with a misunderstanding.

Peace!

Yeah I meant the first comment which was a bitchy thing to say to someone who tried to help and the part of the second comment where he/she just judged the book by it´s cover and said “graphics/renders do look nice (from what I see in the screenshots)” and had to add, “but that's about it for me” which adds absolutely nothing to the conversation and also felt arrogant and condescending.
But I must admit that I could’ve handled the situation better.