Ren'Py Punk 2079 [v0.2.5.5] [MrX]

[Havenless_]

I always thought of the tags revolving around the MC. So sharing for me means MC sharing his LI with some outsider. And that's never gonna happen. But in this case, the other couple is the one doing the Sharing. For this MMF here though, the story had an opening for a threesome, so I added it.
Maybe I misunderstood what Sharing means. If that is so, then it's my fault for saying there won't be sharing in the game before.

Currently, the sharing/swinging tag, as many others, do not specify if the MC is involved. That is, if your game have a swinger couple and it is shown graphically, the swinging tag should be applied. Even if the MC is not participating. In this case, the MC can participate so the tag technically should be here. I think it would be a little bit 'punishing', tho.

That being said, a lot of the swinging tag enjoyers kinda look for games where the MC shares his love interests. It could be misleading for them and drive away the harem players. And of course others player don't care at all. So I don't know what to tell you. Personal opinion, I don't think harem games should include non MC-LoveInterest sex scenes.

The new tag system kinda corrects that. But we have to wait until 2079 for the new system to come out.

 

[_Mr.X_]

Currently, the sharing/swinging tag, as many others, do not specify if the MC is involved. That is, if your game have a swinger couple and it is shown graphically, the swinging tag should be applied. Even if the MC is not participating. In this case, the MC can participate so the tag technically should be here. I think it would be a little bit 'punishing', tho.

That being said, a lot of the swinging tag enjoyers kinda look for games where the MC shares his love interests. It could be misleading for them and drive away the harem players. And of course others player don't care at all. So I don't know what to tell you. Personal opinion, I don't think harem games should include non MC-LoveInterest sex scenes.

The new tag system kinda corrects that. But we have to wait until 2079 for the new system to come out.

I personally don't enjoy swingerMC or NTR content. So I don't have any interest in making them either. But I don't have problems with content where MC joins in on the fun with other couples. And that's exactly what I added. And obviously I made it optional as well for those who don't enjoy it. But so many players are getting turned off because of the MMF tag and no mention of the share tag. I'm in a bit of a pinch r8 now. I don't know how to tag this scenario properly to keep the right audiences.
Also so many issues with the Sandbox tag, yet the game isn't a Sandbox at all, but a sandboxish mechanic is added as a way for adding additional content unrelated to the main story like Gigs and BD's. Story plays out like any other VN's with a little break at certain points. It's more like a selection hub for if you wanna keep going with the main story or wanna do a Gig then return to the main story again.
It's not really Sandbox either. I added it cuz it's a similar thing and wanted players to know before playing.

 

[Deleted member 8754796]

MMF tag is for an avoidable scene where you have some fun with another couple during a GIG. It's not sharing your LI or anything like that.
And if group sex is not your thing, you can ignore it and won't miss anything.

Man, you sure were telling the truth that it's avoidable.

You go as far to have to option on the thread without even playing the game!

Really saves us time, cheers for that.

I personally don't enjoy swingerMC or NTR content.

.... you already did with that MMF... MC is joining in on swingers...

 

[_Mr.X_]

You go as far to have to option on the thread without even playing the game!

Absolutely!
Can't really meet everyone's preference with my single game.
Don't like it. Ignore it. Cheers.

.... you already did with that MMF... MC is joining in on swingers...

I said I don't like SwingerMC (MC sharing his Love interest with someone else)
I did MMF where MC joins in on a couple in an open relationship and has group sex.
Clearly, a huge difference though.

 

[AlexMpog]

Hey _Mr.X_.
It would be great if the game gave a notification whenever player reaches the end of the available content. It took me a while to realise I couldn’t progress any further - unless there's actually such an option and I just haven’t reached it yet.
I stopped at the "Go to Afterlife to meet the rogue" quest, which isn’t integrated yet I take it.

On a side note, my perspective - in terms of story and content, whatever you’ve planned - you do you. You shouldn’t narrow your story or change it just because some people don’t like it. As someone already said, you’ll never satisfy everyone. Just be open about it beforehand. Also, making things optional (girls and lewds) as you did it with swinger couple would be a good approach. My two cents.

 

[_Mr.X_]

Hey _Mr.X_.
It would be great if the game gave a notification whenever player reaches the end of the available content. It took me a while to realise I couldn’t progress any further - unless there's actually such an option and I just haven’t reached it yet.
I stopped at the "Go to Afterlife to meet the rogue" quest, which isn’t integrated yet I take it.

On a side note, my perspective - in terms of story and content, whatever you’ve planned - you do you. You shouldn’t narrow your story or change it just because some people don’t like it. As someone already said, you’ll never satisfy everyone. Just be open about it beforehand. Also, making things optional (girls and lewds) as you did it with swinger couple would be a good approach. My two cents.

Thanks for the feedback.
I'll add an ending notification for the next update.
This update didn't progress the main story

The main story I planned isn't really a big one. So this apartment system is the solution I found to add gigs and BD's that'll help me add more standalone stories with the same MC but not really a part of the main story.

Anyway, I just hope some players enjoyed the game and will be playing the next update too.

 

[HawkCantfly]

Any chance to see Lucy in the game?

 

[_Mr.X_]

Any chance to see Lucy in the game?

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You mean her?

 

[HawkCantfly]

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You mean her?

Yessssssss! download the game right now

 

[_Mr.X_]

Yessssssss! download the game right now

She's not in the game yet but I have plans for adding her.

 

[Soulpuppet]

Damn. I just generally can't get over MMF even if it's avoidable cuz now I feel like it will be full of this type of content. You seen an area where you could add something like swinging and you did, so where else will you see an opportunity to add something like it or worse? I've seen dev's claim they don't like something and add it in anyways and it's a red flag for me. Don't change anything. I'm not asking you to. Just giving my perspective on why I have issue's taking a dev at face value and this will probably be the end of the road for me.

The sandbox. Whether or not it's your typical grindy sandbox or not a lot of people hate that tag and just ignore it. It's your baby do with it what you will but people generally don't like it. Having a VN game then adding sandbox elements can be jarring and will tick people off kinda like the MMF content now. People weren't expecting it because you clearly stated you didn't like NTR/Sharing content so of course people will be taken back by the shift.

Anyways Good luck on your future content and wish you the best!

 

[ambatukamooomaiigawwd]

MMF content introduced, unfortunate as I was looking forward to this games development. We all know how it starts, one scene now and then it takes over the entire game later down the line. "No NTR or sharing or swinging content will be added" well that lasted long didn't it. "B-b-b-but it's not the MC who's girl is getting DP'd!!!" what a cop out lmao.

Game is still early in development so take it or leave it my advice is to choose your audience and fast.

 

[RpWolf]

Whenever a developer says their game won't have NTR and sharing, but ends up including something related to it, the justification is to say that it's technically not that, to say it's a dream scene, to say they weren't in a relationship yet, to say it's a flashback scene, or any of the many excuses we've seen developers give. In the case of this game, it's to say that even though the MC is participating, the scene doesn't count as sharing because it wasn't with one of the MC girls.

When some content that was said not to be in the game appears, any other content can be included using the same excuses, and with that the developers don't understand why many players no longer trust them.

 

[_Mr.X_]

Whenever a developer says their game won't have NTR and sharing, but ends up including something related to it, the justification is to say that it's technically not that, to say it's a dream scene, to say they weren't in a relationship yet, to say it's a flashback scene, or any of the many excuses we've seen developers give. In the case of this game, it's to say that even though the MC is participating, the scene doesn't count as sharing because it wasn't with one of the MC girls.

When some content that was said not to be in the game appears, any other content can be included using the same excuses, and with that, the developers don't understand why many players no longer trust them.

I mean, a lot of people have different perspectives on what I count as Sharing and what I count as Joining.
And I don't even want to explain myself or anything anymore. Play? Don't Play? You do what you feel like.
I have my own way of making games, and I will keep adding content on how I visualized my story when I started the project.

Believe it or not, what I believe is NTR(MC getting cucked / Current or former LI having affairs with a third party), Sharing(MC sharing his LI with a third party), Swinging(MC exchanging his LI with another party) will never be in MY game.

Having group sex with a couple in an open relationship is not sharing but joining, in my opinion. And no one can convince me the other way.
Everyone's free to have an opinion and free to choose what they play.
And I, too am free to choose what I believe and what I make.
Thanks.

 

[Beast Within]

these are the tags that would have to be added to the main page of the game per this site's description here under the Sexual Content tab, even if it is one scene, avoidable, optional, with a switch or whatever. this way, those who filter these tags out, can do so.
will save you a lot of pain since those who are not into swinging for example, can filter this game out by excluding the tag.

Group sex [Sex act involving 3 or more people.]
Multiple Penetration [Sexual penetration involving 2+ penis/toys into multiple holes or same holes.]
Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]

always best of health and good luck.
I will take my leave.

 

[TKdropemoff]

Believe it or not, what I believe is NTR(MC getting cucked / Current or former LI having affairs with a third party), Sharing(MC sharing his LI with a third party), Swinging(MC exchanging his LI with another party) will never be in MY game.

well it don't matter what you believe, the site definition says otherwise respectfully.
I was sticking around since at the front page you said no sharing or ntr... So I waiting..

You: "Harem, pregnancy, anal, maledom are planned for now
No NTR or sharing or swinging content will be added"


Welp good thing I waited.

So eventually when this scene happens or whatever, the game will be tagged with swinging, just saying.
MC sharing or the mc just joining a couple still falls under the swinging tag.
so like Beast Within said people who got swinging filtered your game will not pop up for them anyways. Also
it will attract people who is looking for swinging content as in the mc sharing his LI. So you can deal with that also when
the time comes.

I recommend going over the site tags btw if you don't know them.

Oh well, good luck.

 

[_Mr.X_]

well it don't matter what you believe, the site definition says otherwise respectfully.
I was sticking around since at the front page you said no sharing or ntr... So I waiting..

You: "Harem, pregnancy, anal, maledom are planned for now
No NTR or sharing or swinging content will be added"


Welp good thing I waited.

So eventually when this scene happens or whatever, the game will be tagged with swinging, just saying.
MC sharing or the mc just joining a couple still falls under the swinging tag.
so like Beast Within said people who got swinging filtered your game will not pop up for them anyways. Also
it will attract people who is looking for swinging content as in the mc sharing his LI. So you can deal with that also when
the time comes.

I recommend going over the site tags btw if you don't know them.

Oh well, good luck.

I asked a Moderator about the issue and he said the scenario falls under a simple group sex and not swinging.
So there won't be a swinging tag.

 

[_Mr.X_]

My ticket was addressed, and the details on the Swinging tag have been changed and clarified for better understanding.

• Swinging [A couple that swaps partners and engages in sex with another couple in a relationship.]

 

[Goldz_x]

Meh, mmf (sharing a girl with another man) is sharing to me anyway, li or not and regardless of the definition on here. time to exit.

 

[Deleted member 8754796]

My ticket was addressed, and the details on the Swinging tag have been changed and clarified for better understanding.

• Swinging [A couple that swaps partners and engages in sex with another couple in a relationship.]

So in order to avoid having the truthful tag of swinging... you got them to change the definition...

What are you going to do if they ever add a MMF tag? Have them change it so it's [When there are multiple MMF scenes] instead of [Has a MMF scene].



The mental gymnastics to avoid the realty is crazy.

And now because of you, it became that much harder for EVERYONE to avoid sharing games, because the swinging tag can't be used for them anymore... good job.

You may not have done NTR or straight up backstabbed by adding NTR, but you did more damage to the harem fans than any of those devs ever could. All that extra wasted time, just because of your ego over not wanting a tag.