The worst thing for me about all of this is that I remember raising concerns on ulmf, that this project was too big and too complex for a tiny indie developer. That this would turn into another 'Breeding Season', cluster-fuck and all. The developer was quick to defend themselves, the dev team and the speed of their updates.
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Suddenly, they had to do a whole lot of changes to the engine and had to scrap the project and start over. They announced a lack of progress and a side-project. I think that's about the time I realized MaTM just entered Dev Hell and would likely die there.
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I, like everyone else, hopped aboard the hype train and paid $20 a month for over two years because the demo they had out pushed all the right buttons for me. And when the updated demo came out with boss battle included, I was sure they had a winning formula over there.
Suddenly, they had to do a whole lot of changes to the engine and had to scrap the project and start over. They announced a lack of progress and a side-project. I think that's about the time I realized MaTM just entered Dev Hell and would likely die there.
Has Eromancer actually delivered any finished product at all? Anything? As far as I know, they have not. And with a track record like that, I'm still baffled by the fact that they get so much support on Patreon.
The way I see it they could be either very incompetent when it comes to management and PR, or they're straight up scamming everyone. And I'm not sure which one of the two is worse.
If you want to create a new game, that's fine. Maybe it's for the better, even. MatM was too big for a first project. This could be a smaller thing to give them some experience with completing a project. But instead of creating a feature-full proof of concept of sorts, some simple game where you can do most things you expect in a side-scrolling beat-them-up, they seem to be focusing on other aspects. If they just got out something actually playable, something you can actually enjoy, that would only do good things for them as far as I can see. It would spread awareness in a good way. It'd give a good idea of what the completed game will be like. It'd give the players an opportunity to supply them with feedback.
Even if you cannot deliver what you want as soon as you would have hoped, communication is still key. Getting your paying supporters as well as potential supporters informed about the state of things is how you keep them and get new ones. A project that actually does handle this quite well in my opinion in HentaiWriter's Future Fragments. They are even quite active in their respective thread on this forum, helping people when they're stuck, answering questions, and processing feedback. That's how you show you care about your audience.
The way I see it they could be either very incompetent when it comes to management and PR, or they're straight up scamming everyone. And I'm not sure which one of the two is worse.
If you want to create a new game, that's fine. Maybe it's for the better, even. MatM was too big for a first project. This could be a smaller thing to give them some experience with completing a project. But instead of creating a feature-full proof of concept of sorts, some simple game where you can do most things you expect in a side-scrolling beat-them-up, they seem to be focusing on other aspects. If they just got out something actually playable, something you can actually enjoy, that would only do good things for them as far as I can see. It would spread awareness in a good way. It'd give a good idea of what the completed game will be like. It'd give the players an opportunity to supply them with feedback.
Even if you cannot deliver what you want as soon as you would have hoped, communication is still key. Getting your paying supporters as well as potential supporters informed about the state of things is how you keep them and get new ones. A project that actually does handle this quite well in my opinion in HentaiWriter's Future Fragments. They are even quite active in their respective thread on this forum, helping people when they're stuck, answering questions, and processing feedback. That's how you show you care about your audience.
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does Eromancer have a video of this in its current form? i wanna share it
i really like the art
i really like the art
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Art looking good, I guess... since it is in such an early state, cannot say much, but it the imagery is going the way I think it is going, this may be even a game changer in terms of art and setting, with an amazing story and good hscenes, obviously.
The art of the backgrounds you mean ? Because as long as I've seen the background is way more detailed than the actual characters, that are 2D drawn with only 1 color. And by 1 color i mean there are no blending colors, shadows and other details.
I know eromancer has done a lot of mistakes, but i can see right now that they are working hard with pure onyx. New version already up May 18th build, 4 H animations added with finishers and alot of new content. Can someone share a link on where we can download it?
Patreon may 18 test build, splicer added animation and the rest I can't read since it requires 10$ pledge. i was able to get a few details in yiff party about added animations. but the links there are unupdated
yiff.party then search eromancer. Also check eromancers patreon a few texts is readable like new animations, but you wont be able to read the whole added content without pledging 10$
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For those wondering (like I did) what kind of an updates are hidden behind the 10$ paywall, here are some old Inner Circle updates from Jan 2018 for MatM:
I doubt the 10$ updates for Onyx are any different...
There are a total of 4 animations currently on the latest build as well as 2 total enemy types with animations.
How do you know there's a new version and animation ? Could be just feedback, not every Inner Circle means theres a new version.
They will probably release all these new versions in next month's 3$ pledge and we can hope someone somewhere shares it.
Inner circle - release May 25th, shows animations and added h scene, then to expand the added info it needs you to be pledged 10$, you can check the details in yiff.party
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