Unity Pure Onyx [v0.138.1] [Eromancer]

[Yojimbo543]

You all act like Eromancer has some huge well documented history of abandoning games.

Is there any other game besides MatM that he's "abandoned"? Or has he only "abandoned" one game and you guys are acting like he abandons all projects he works on?

EDIT: I mean, I haven't known of the dev for long, and even I can see that the update progress is very, very slow. But among the novels of accusations and people complaining, I'm not seeing anything that really screams at him abandoning this in any way.

It all depends on your definition of the word "abandoned".
If you mean gone forever, Eromancer only abandoned 1 project, the 2D Pure Onyx (3D Pure Onyx started from scratch).
But if you mean spending resources on games, models or animations for months, and then don't bring them back again FOR YEARS, then he has abandoned 2 other projects (MatM and XXXIV) and around 10 enemy models that have been 3D sculpted and polished (and some of them rigged too) and around 30 more enemies that are in different phases of "development".

Take the January and February monthly updates as an example, he's wasting time on:
- A BACKGROUND CHARACTER (neither a player character, nor and NPC or a enemy, just a background character) for a boss battle that still doesn't exist, with a Boss enemy that's still not in game (although the model was sculpted more than 2 years ago) at the end of a stage that still doesn't exist either.
- 2 SPIDER MODELS (out of 3 models that have been "in progress" for 2 years) that are extra work to animate and can't have H-scenes because Eromancer hasn't figured out yet how Patreon censorship works.

Also, it is very crybaby indeed to complain about "only one animation, and it's a reskin". I appreciate reskins to a degree.

You missed the sarcasm in that sentence. During 1 year (2022) and with a team of 12+ people and an average of $20K/month Eromancer released 4 "new" H-scenes. Actually 1 H-scene with 4 variations.
The "only 1 animation, and it's a reskin" is not a "crybaby complain", but a sad - and sarcastic - statement of fact.

Just have a look at Eromancer's monthly "WIP updates" posts on Kemono and you'll see all the wasted work

 

[Lordnightwolf]

Exactly my point, that's barely any history, on top of that i posted a pic of him explaining his background, he himself stated that he has no long history in game development. Then they say "i miss the point" or "i haven't proved anything" and label me the "troll" -.-

Why do you still keep talking these people on here, still cannot make a game, why cannot yall just move on do something else, nobody has to sit here replying to known of you, correct me wrong worries about the wrong, thing cyberpunk 2077 did the same thing abandoning the game with a last update.

 

[Lordnightwolf]

It all depends on your definition of the word "abandoned".
If you mean gone forever, Eromancer only abandoned 1 project, the 2D Pure Onyx (3D Pure Onyx started from scratch).
But if you mean spending resources on games, models or animations for months, and then don't bring them back again FOR YEARS, then he has abandoned 2 other projects (MatM and XXXIV) and around 10 enemy models that have been 3D sculpted and polished (and some of them rigged too) and around 30 more enemies that are in different phases of "development".

Take the January and February monthly updates as an example, he's wasting time on:
- A BACKGROUND CHARACTER (neither a player character, nor and NPC or a enemy, just a background character) for a boss battle that still doesn't exist, with a Boss enemy that's still not in game (although the model was sculpted more than 2 years ago) at the end of a stage that still doesn't exist either.
- 2 SPIDER MODELS (out of 3 models that have been "in progress" for 2 years) that are extra work to animate and can't have H-scenes because Eromancer hasn't figured out yet how Patreon censorship works.




You missed the sarcasm in that sentence. During 1 year (2022) and with a team of 12+ people and an average of $20K/month Eromancer released 4 "new" H-scenes. Actually 1 H-scene with 4 variations.
The "only 1 animation, and it's a reskin" is not a "crybaby complain", but a sad - and sarcastic - statement of fact.

Just have a look at Eromancer's monthly "WIP updates" posts on Kemono and you'll see all the wasted work

Do any of you have jobs?

 

[Lordnightwolf]

KittyMaid

 

[Erris1123]

both bunny girls will get more animations too :3

Regardless of how these people are acting, that info makes me quite happy.

 

[Litoningu]

I'll give my other 2 cents here.
Read them if you must, or just keep memeing and arguing.

Maybe arguing might also be what it takes to keep this thread alive, all the same as any other activity.

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[Zepheral]

I'll give my other 2 cents here.
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[DrakeWasHere2]

I'll give my other 2 cents here.
Read them if you must, or just keep memeing and arguing.

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Also, Guilty Hell only has two people working on it, I don't know the team behind the other projects. Though also take into account Ero has like 5 or more people 'working' on Pure Onyx.

Though I am sure defender Kitty will try to compare programming or whatever to versus time frame in getting a game done and already another game in roots of being worked on and showing progress vs whatever Scamo is still dragging ass about.

 

[Lordnightwolf]

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[Zepheral]

Also, Guilty Hell only has two people working on it, I don't know the team behind the other projects. Though also take into account Ero has like 5 or more people 'working' on Pure Onyx.

Though I am sure defender Kitty will try to compare programming or whatever to versus time frame in getting a game done and already another game in roots of being worked on and showing progress vs whatever Scamo is still dragging ass about.

He already did asked in the past and I asked about how many lines of code the creators of guilty hell used. The creators told me, that they don't remember cause it's a mess. I believe them, cause I hacked my save with old html understanding. And it was a mess. They fixed it later with a different script.

It's easier now cause they already have a library of assets. Way better than their start from 0.

 

[Lordnightwolf]

Bruh!!!! These people just here to talk their shit an not even supporting the line of work for them. I have donate someone money to them, for a poster, that I still have, Which is alright to get one from them. Reading of all these messages on here, is just people just here to be here, currently think people are straight mad at them, For abandoning the game for while is cause the statement is this, While these people are here typing up all this drama it is either you're mad because the game isn't done or the game still in it's alpha development. I don't hold anyone accountable, of being this angry at a indie game company that is real small.

 

[Lordnightwolf]

He already did asked in the past and I asked about how many lines of code the creators of guilty hell used. The creators told me, that they don't remember cause it's a mess. I believe them, cause I hacked my save with old html understanding. And it was a mess. They fixed it later with a different script.

It's easier now cause they already have a library of assets. Way better than their start from 0.

So you know the code isn't clean.

 

[Zepheral]

So you know the code isn't clean.

It's a rookie mistake, I should know cause my professor hound me to clean my code. I take it that they are new, and possibly self taught. From what I know, one does the code, the other does the assets and modeling.

 

[Lordnightwolf]

well im working on a game myself.

 

[z9db781i01b]

All this discourse is fine but does anyone have the new release?

 

[bloodmane]

Bruh!!!! These people just here to talk their shit an not even supporting the line of work for them. I have donate someone money to them, for a poster, that I still have, Which is alright to get one from them. Reading of all these messages on here, is just people just here to be here, currently think people are straight mad at them, For abandoning the game for while is cause the statement is this, While these people are here typing up all this drama it is either you're mad because the game isn't done or the game still in it's alpha development. I don't hold anyone accountable, of being this angry at a indie game company that is real small.

you look like you really dont know what the hell you are talking about.. and you say you dev yourself. if you really know deving then you must know that they arent really doing anything per month while earning a lot.. which is a scam.
idk most of you has broken moral compass that scamming people is "fair game" just because people let it happen.
it's a simple game with rehashed content for 3-5 months with "bug fixes". if you really know how to dev, you know that those bug fixes wont take that much time.

also just because some people here cannot dev or does not dev doesnt mean they cant give an opinion on something.
like i have said many times before:
you dont have to be a chef to know the food taste ass
you dont have to be an IT to know your internet connection is slower then usual
you dont have to be a mechanic to know your car is having some problems..
that argument is literally toxic as fuck. "yOu DoNt EvEn DeV sO sHuT Up." gtfo

also work on your english. we can barely understand what the hell you are talking about.

 

[tetrayrok]

you look like you really dont know what the hell you are talking about.. and you say you dev yourself. if you really know deving then you must know that they arent really doing anything per month while earning a lot.. which is a scam.
idk most of you has broken moral compass that scamming people is "fair game" just because people let it happen.
it's a simple game with rehashed content for 3-5 months with "bug fixes". if you really know how to dev, you know that those bug fixes wont take that much time.

also just because some people here cannot dev or does not dev doesnt mean they cant give an opinion on something.
like i have said many times before:
you dont have to be a chef to know the food taste ass
you dont have to be an IT to know your internet connection is slower then usual
you dont have to be a mechanic to know your car is having some problems..
that argument is literally toxic as fuck. "yOu DoNt EvEn DeV sO sHuT Up." gtfo

also work on your english. we can barely understand what the hell you are talking about.

Like I said it should be just adding animations.
The core gameplay mechanics are done.
No new code is going to adding new features for mechanics.
It's not like onyx is geting custom combos or special input specials.
It's literally just the animations and models of the sex scenes.

 

[bloodmane]

Like I said it should be just adding animations.
The core gameplay mechanics are done.
No new code is going to adding new features for mechanics.
It's not like onyx is geting custom combos or special input specials.
It's literally just the animations and models of the sex scenes.

yeah if there is specials and combo variations to be added in too it's not too hard to add in. unless they havent done state machine yet...
i agree, they aren't doing anything to warrant coding and even the addition of animations are just reused/reskinned. then what the hell are they getting paid for?

 

[tetrayrok]

yeah if there is specials and combo variations to be added in too it's not too hard to add in. unless they havent done state machine yet...
i agree, they aren't doing anything to warrant coding and even the addition of animations are just reused/reskinned. then what the hell are they getting paid for?

State machine or not, no new logic is being added to any core mechanics.
The platform they have used should already facilitate

Player getting grappled
-> loses grapple play animation
-> breaks out of grapple, continue on the fisticuffs states

It's already present. If they were actively adding dive kicks, combos off walls, new mechanics to maybe the sex grapples that would warrant new logic -> actual new code to be added to the platform.

It seems like for their updates, they only update animations. And the infrastructure for playing stopping animations has already been done ages ago. So in reality they don't need more coders, they need more animators if this is the bottleneck.

 

[Litoningu]

Also, Guilty Hell only has two people working on it, I don't know the team behind the other projects. Though also take into account Ero has like 5 or more people 'working' on Pure Onyx.

Though I am sure defender Kitty will try to compare programming or whatever to versus time frame in getting a game done and already another game in roots of being worked on and showing progress vs whatever Scamo is still dragging ass about.

I personally don't care about team size anymore, honestly, as Mancer's team shows me sizes doesn't matter if the commitment isn't enough or being under/overestimate oneself.

There are couple solo devs that I seen who recycling their ideas over and over again but changing thing a little here and there while keep improving their craft little by little, every release they made isn't decent, but there's a progress.

One prominent things about me, is that I rather wait for full games or product and would only play any available demo once or twice as its proof of concept, so I don't burnt out from bitting off every little thing from all the alpha demo til there's almost nothing new left for me to enjoy in full release, NoR experience taught me well.

The long ass word I cooked is the only attempt to tone down this pointless back and forth argument that who should be in the right or wrong.

My only solid commitment to Eromancer is to see them redeemed themselves with finished product and nothing else, but I'll not be here and keenly waiting for it. Since we all know how slow the progress is.

When I see nothing but texts of arguing instead of meme or funny stuff it just tiring. I usually just X off and be elsewhere, but sometimes I jusf feels I should say something that would knock some senses into peoples. At least it's a try.

So, whatever you guys do, who am I to judge what you did is fun or not, I prefer to see people talks about games or meme and make fun of them rather than 'these'.

But if it enjoyable to any of you, not that I can stop you anyway, going ham, make burgers or whatever, just having your fun and I'll try having mine