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DrakeWasHere2

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Yet somehow, as we saw with the last update, there are people who take these useless non-updates as gospel and think we've "been proven wrong" every time the dev tweaks some incredibly tiny knob.
We'll be lucky to see new poses probably by December and then it might just be one with Oynx, besides a 'cum' thing. Devs still have to optimize the scenes with the reskins for smoother animations. :KEK:
 
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bloodmane

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What real updates? Do you mean an actual pose or one pose finally added? Cause most updates I see are still bug fixes or optimization. Or reskin animations for existing scenes like with the bunny/cop.
that's why i said 3-5 months interval. it takes that much time to get a BRAND NEW animation. after getting new animations we only get bullshit updates several months after.. not to mention it takes much much longer time until we got proper gameplay updates..
 
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Pure Onyx is a classic beat ‘em up with RPG elements set in the world of our flagship title, Malise and the Machine.
Implying they finished Malise and the Machine, rather than finished the demo/prologue, kinda, and started this one "to help fund Malise and the Machine". By now this is obviously a scam, whether it was originally meant to be or not. Or, as fans are probably hoping for, Eromancer will drop several years of updates in one go and Malise and the Machine will be the greatest porn game ever made. Probably not though. Really, probably not though. You guys keeps hoping though. Maybe the God of Porn will hear you.
 

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Implying they finished Malise and the Machine, rather than finished the demo/prologue, kinda, and started this one "to help fund Malise and the Machine". By now this is obviously a scam, whether it was originally meant to be or not. Or, as fans are probably hoping for, Eromancer will drop several years of updates in one go and Malise and the Machine will be the greatest porn game ever made. Probably not though. Really, probably not though. You guys keeps hoping though. Maybe the God of Porn will hear you.
I just wish they didn't do this "It's just a side-project" bullcrap. MATM was way more interesting of a product (for me personally at least), and I wish I could support them in making that game, but I just can't get into Pure Onyx. Tried checking out the most recent update after not paying attention for 2-3+ years and the animations, general environment, and UI is definitely improved, but I still feel like I'm playing a tech demo instead of a game that will eventually get completed.
 

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As if white knights don't also manage to find the time to come here daily, lol.
They come back because they feel a need to defend what they view as a good game. To them, it's no different than defending, say, Skyrim when people say it is a terrible game.


Everyone coming here just to bitch and moan have no reason to come back. There has been a several hundred page back and forth of "Game bad because x. Ero is a scammer because x and y." "No, it isn't bad, you just gotta believe." "You told no points to refute me." "You are wrong and shittalker, game and Ero good." "No it is actually a bad game, shut up white knight."

Just shut up and leave this post, you are changing no minds on either side.
 

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They come back because they feel a need to defend what they view as a good game. To them, it's no different than defending, say, Skyrim when people say it is a terrible game.
I get what you're going for with the analogy, but comparing this to Skyrim is so wildly oversimplifying things. Skyrim is a complete game (despite numerous re-releases, which is actually a great example of how even triple A studios can find excuses to charge numerous times for the exact same product), sells for a set price, and has what is generally considered to be a lot of replayability and content compared to most games. This...has none of those qualities. You're equating liking a game to it being good, and while I get that from their perspective the two are the same thing, you're acting like people aren't allowed to both think "this game is good" and "this game wasn't worth the purchase price". If you want a more accurate analogy, think if Skyrim were released in chunks between 1-3% of the final game at random intervals (assume 3-4 months on average), you have to pay for each new update separately, and there's no guarantee any given update will even contain any content beyond some random UI changes. If that were the case, Skyrim would have had just as many people shit talking it as this (and does, in fact, have a huge amount of criticism levied on Bethesda for the aforementioned constant re-selling of the same game), and today it's practically the norm that MTX is treated like the devil in most games, making any complaints on this forum look mild by comparison (people have gotten death threats over them many times).
 
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(despite numerous re-releases, which is actually a great example of how even triple A studios can find excuses to charge numerous times for the exact same product)
Bethesda keeps re-releasing Skyrim for the same reason Ero keeps the grift going, the money well hasn't dried up yet. So long as people give them money, they'll keep doing it and have no reason to stop.
If you want a more accurate analogy, think if Skyrim were released in chunks between 1-3% of the final game at random intervals (assume 3-4 months on average), you have to pay for each new update separately, and there's no guarantee any given update will even contain any content beyond some random UI changes.
I can picture it now:
January update changelog:
-Added Lydia as potential follower
-Added three cheese wheels to Smelethor's General Goods

April update changelog:
-Fixed Lydia's outfit, she should actually wear armor now
-Fixed typo in Belethor's store's name

That'll be $20.
(May or may not be based on actual Skyrim updates.)
 
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This is why I really respect developers like Vosmug. Sure, Vos takes 3 years to release a game, but you know what he doesn't do in the meantime? Take tens of thousands of dollars from people for no results because he realizes that it is poison to the concept of shipping a title. Instead he makes his game and then sells it on every platform he can to make the cost back, and it works. And his games are actually mostly feature complete when they launch. No episode 1 or half a game.

It sucks, because Patreon and other services are important for developers and artists to be able to pay their bills while doing their work. But then you'll run into developers who really, really take advantage of it. Another really good dev is Majalis, who, rain or fucking shine, has a content release every month and is meaningfully moving towards the game being complete. Some developers understand that you CAN milk your fans, but it hurts the entire genre, not just your rinky dink scam project. Unethical developers are remembered far more than the ones who didn't fuck people over.
 

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This is why I really respect developers like Vosmug. Sure, Vos takes 3 years to release a game, but you know what he doesn't do in the meantime? Take tens of thousands of dollars from people for no results because he realizes that it is poison to the concept of shipping a title. Instead he makes his game and then sells it on every platform he can to make the cost back, and it works. And his games are actually mostly feature complete when they launch. No episode 1 or half a game.

It sucks, because Patreon and other services are important for developers and artists to be able to pay their bills while doing their work. But then you'll run into developers who really, really take advantage of it. Another really good dev is Majalis, who, rain or fucking shine, has a content release every month and is meaningfully moving towards the game being complete. Some developers understand that you CAN milk your fans, but it hurts the entire genre, not just your rinky dink scam project. Unethical developers are remembered far more than the ones who didn't fuck people over.
Vosmug is love. Vosmug is life. <3
 
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This is why I really respect developers like Vosmug. Sure, Vos takes 3 years to release a game, but you know what he doesn't do in the meantime? Take tens of thousands of dollars from people for no results because he realizes that it is poison to the concept of shipping a title. Instead he makes his game and then sells it on every platform he can to make the cost back, and it works. And his games are actually mostly feature complete when they launch. No episode 1 or half a game.

It sucks, because Patreon and other services are important for developers and artists to be able to pay their bills while doing their work. But then you'll run into developers who really, really take advantage of it. Another really good dev is Majalis, who, rain or fucking shine, has a content release every month and is meaningfully moving towards the game being complete. Some developers understand that you CAN milk your fans, but it hurts the entire genre, not just your rinky dink scam project. Unethical developers are remembered far more than the ones who didn't fuck people over.
Excellent post, for years people have bugged Vosmug to crowdfund in his blogpost comments it’s good to see his refusal vindicated.
 

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It's amazing how much mods come in here to clean up. Claiming things are off-topic when I make references to Eromancer and his work and track record or little of.

How the fuck am I being off-topic? Are mods running protection for this clown show to now? It is a crime now here apparently to point out facts about an artist and their behavior/track record.
 
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It's amazing how much mods come in here to clean up. Claiming things are off-topic when I make references to Eromancer and his work and track record or little of.

How the fuck am I being off-topic? Are mods running protection for this clown show to now? It is a crime now here apparently to point out facts about an artist and their behavior/track record.
As per usually the heavy handed jannies failed to explain if you did anything wrong. On the Lilith's throne thread we chatted about model trains and no one cared, yet discussing a certain mod for that game got several comment deleted. Don't be surprised if this comment gets deleted as well, since apparently asking what rule you supposedly broke is also off topic. Luckily they don't police signatures since MusicVideoGuy 's sig sums up the typical exchange when jannies try to explain themselves.
 

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It's amazing how much mods come in here to clean up. Claiming things are off-topic when I make references to Eromancer and his work and track record or little of.

How the fuck am I being off-topic? Are mods running protection for this clown show to now? It is a crime now here apparently to point out facts about an artist and their behavior/track record.
This is why I avoid directly arguing for more than a post or two after a certain someone just responded with insults in every comment, nothing will come of it, it will last several pages, and most of the convo will get deleted. I prefer now to just sit back with popcorn while people make jokes about shitty devs, only to have the "totally normal and sane and based" gigachads come in to declare how complaining is a waste by complaining to the complainers.
 

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This is why I avoid directly arguing for more than a post or two after a certain someone just responded with insults in every comment, nothing will come of it, it will last several pages, and most of the convo will get deleted. I prefer now to just sit back with popcorn while people make jokes about shitty devs, only to have the "totally normal and sane and based" gigachads come in to declare how complaining is a waste by complaining to the complainers.
I wasn't really arguing with anyone at the time when it was deleted. Again, I just ignore the white-knights as there is no point debating with them.
 
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