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Gosamr

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I have absolutely no problem with no sexual content. I have absolutely no problem with a censored version for the freeloaders and an uncensored version for subscribing patrons.

However, I do have an extreme problem with a VN that is emasculated by leaving everything in the censored version bar the "juicy bits". I get the homage to earlier times and all that, but these pouting, under brow looks, lascivious sidelong glances, breast-thrusting stretches, the "come and get it" ass-wiggling and the smoldering sashaying posturing on the spot that make up 99% of Claudia's visuals is a total load of rubbish. This is just taking the p**s. Either give it all to your audience or just leave in the eye-candy and take out all of the mock-provocativeness completely.

There was very little of this ridiculous teasing c**p in the old movies. Yes, the girl maybe had big boobs, tight clothes and a pouty mouth, but she didn't pout it and flout it. It was just a spicy part of the visual scenery and, coupled with the vulnerability of the traditional boop-oop-a-doop female role, used to accentuate the "gorgeous damsel in mortal danger" element of the movie and the "suspense" induced by the abject horror of the impending doom awaiting her.

Same with the juvenile mc. He increasingly exhibits all of the obsessive thoughts, desires and fantasies of the regular porn feature yet without as you would get under "normal" AVN circumstances in this type of scenario the slightest meaningful closure.

It's like doing a documentary following behind someone going into a meeting about the subject of the documentary, then getting right up to the conference room door and having it shut in your face.

It's a great shame, because in itself this is a great story with, as has been said, exquisite and immaculate visuals, but for me at least, it is totally diminished in value by this "might let you, nah won't" vein which not only runs through it, but seems to me to deliberately dominate almost every scene.

Either go all the way, or keep the teasing and tantalizing carrot right out of it. Otherwise it will be obvious that this is nothing like what it appears to promise to be and thereby push a large proportion of, what I would not be surprised to find, a potentially sizeable audience for this title away.
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PS/ I'm sorry. I feel I need to add that the above comments are based on my impression that there is to be no uncensored (porn) version to be made available at all, either to freeloaders or patrons.
 
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Jeevant

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it´s mot my decision, but a game tagged "no sexual content" normally wont belong to this forum
If a game tagged "no sexual content" won't belong on this forum then we won't have that tag now, won't we? Any game till the time it is erotic in nature and has lewd stuff (doesn't have to be explicit sex scenes)is allowed. Hence the "no sexual content" tag.
 

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[...] a game tagged "no sexual content" normally wont belong to this forum [...]
And this is where you're wrong ;)

This is an ADULT forum, not a PORN one you see?
And all "adult" games i.e. those with "adult" themes (may contain sex and nudity but not a prerequisite per se) may put up residence here.

Case in point (and I ask for everyone's forgiveness for that small breach of netiquette and protocol) there is a GREAT completed game called "Scarlet Spire" on here. And guess what? "No sexual content"...
 

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If a game tagged "no sexual content" won't belong on this forum then we won't have that tag now, won't we? Any game till the time it is erotic in nature and has lewd stuff (doesn't have to be explicit sex scenes)is allowed. Hence the "no sexual content" tag.
Ehhhh no. Most games that have the no sexual content tag will never have any sexual content. I don't care what it was originally meant for but right now it is mostly used for games that won't feature any sexual content.
 

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I haven't played the game yet, but I can tell from the pictures that it looks like a quality game with potential, the female character looks very hot. I slightly disappointed to see the 'no sexual content' tag before downloading. I would like to believe that this tag is used for the current version. I hope the developer is considering sexual content for future releases.
 

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And this is where you're wrong ;)

This is an ADULT forum, not a PORN one you see?
And all "adult" games i.e. those with "adult" themes (may contain sex and nudity but not a prerequisite per se) may put up residence here.

Case in point (and I ask for everyone's forgiveness for that small breach of netiquette and protocol) there is a GREAT completed game called "Scarlet Spire" on here. And guess what? "No sexual content"...
I don't have a problem with a 'no sexual content' story. The renders alone (for me) make it worth the download. But why do you think a 'no sexual content' story would implement a 'patch' variable in code?
We seem to be missing a part of the puzzle. :D
 

WaltS

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I don't have a problem with a 'no sexual content' story. The renders alone (for me) make it worth the download. But why do you think a 'no sexual content' story would implement a 'patch' variable in code?
We seem to be missing a part of the puzzle. :D
Somewhat confused here - why are you quoting me? ;)
I never mentioned any "patches" or the need for sexual encounters?
 

WaltS

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Ehhhh no. Most games that have the no sexual content tag will never have any sexual content. I don't care what it was originally meant for but right now it is mostly used for games that won't feature any sexual content.
(Emphasis in quoted post added by me)
Now you get it - there ARE games that are ADULT by nature but not porn.
And that is what the tag is for - see here: [READ ME] Tags Rules And List [Updated 2019-03-24] | F95zone

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  • No Sexual Content [Adult themes including mild nudity but no actual pornographic content.]
 

WaltS

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I was agreeing with you.
Then I asked your opinion. :)
Aaaaaah, now I get it :cool:

Well, I actually think this has / will have porn content in the future. ISTR the dev pointing out that he'll be hiding all the p0rn behind a Patreon paywall (please correct me if I am wrong) so no I&I for us freeloaders :ROFLMAO:

However I was only debating the point that "adult = porn" which it isn't. There are so many games w/ "Bodily Encounters of the 3rd Kind" on this here site I can live w/ one that is just "adult" (see my Scarlet Spire comment above).
If it's done well I might add...
 

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Ehhhh no. Most games that have the no sexual content tag will never have any sexual content. I don't care what it was originally meant for but right now it is mostly used for games that won't feature any sexual content.
You not caring doesnt change its implementation. "no sexual content" tag will be removed when we see some sexual content in game if ever and if not then it stays forever. as for "mostly used" thing it looks like that because its mostly just japanese censored short games which are completed as soon as they are released and are erotic in nature but no explict sex scenes. Since they are completed hence never featuring. Hope this clears up some things.
 

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lack of sexual content aside, the renders are absolutely top notch, unfortunately the dialouge is dull and clunky, subtlty is key to raising the erotic charge, then you have improbable body language i.e. when they go to the lake they're arm in arm which ruins any kind of believability.
All that aside there could be a great game here, the female character is very hot as are the animations.
 

Helmeted Smith

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Oh, I get it now. This is sneaky!
Well, I guess the whole landlady / roommate shtick was getting old.
:illuminati: There is/will be actual sexual content, but shhh, don't tell anyone! :illuminati:
Though, I'm wondering if the disclaimers clearly meant for Patreon being displayed here on F95zone + "No Sexual Content" is a bit counter-productive.
I don't think promoting to a confused audience is the best way to go about it. Also, once people will start sharing pictures of the MC's dong, the whole no sexual, no frontal nudity claim will be broken.
 
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Gosamr

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Oh, I get it now. This is sneaky!
Well, I guess the whole landlady / roommate shtick was getting old.
:illuminati: There is/will be actual sexual content, but shhh, don't tell anyone! :illuminati:
Though, I'm wondering if the disclaimers clearly meant for Patreon being displayed here on F95zone + "No Sexual Content" is a bit counter-productive.
I don't think promoting to a confused audience is the best way to go about it. Also, once people will start sharing pictures of the MC's dong, the whole no sexual, no frontal nudity claim will be broken.
Confusious he ask... "why say there won't be when there will, rather than there will be when there won't?"

I must be even dumber than I look because that's got to be the worst case of reverse salesmanship I've not only ever witnessed, but also never had a hand in.

Surely, it would make sense to say there will be sexual content when there really won't, because at least that way you're drawing interest to you rather than repelling it by maintaining there won't be, when there will?
 

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Confusious he ask... "why say there won't be when there will, rather than there will be when there won't?"

I must be even dumber than I look because that's got to be the worst case of reverse salesmanship I've not only ever witnessed, but also never had a hand in.

Surely, it would make sense to say there will be sexual content when there really won't, because at least that way you're drawing interest to you rather than repelling it by maintaining there won't be, when there will?
Patreon doesn't like sexual portrayals of people that are in a certain relationship.
So a devs options are to either cut/censor the sex or cut the relationship.
This dev doesn't want to cut the latter, meaning the dialogue flavor, but chose instead to cut/censor certain scenes deemed inappropriate, for the "patreon version".

But there's another version, ;) allegedly. I dunno :illuminati:
That "Uncensored Patch" in the OP looks rather suspicious.
Is this a conspiracy against Patreon? It remains to be seen.

Edit:
If not, then the violence planned in this game has to be some hardcore shit to deserve an +18 rating.
More brutal than DOOM :LUL:
 
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Gosamr

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Patreon doesn't like sexual portrayals of people that are in a certain relationship.
So a devs options are to either cut/censor the sex or cut the relationship.
This dev doesn't want to cut the latter, meaning the dialogue flavor, but chose instead to cut/censor certain scenes deemed inappropriate, for the "patreon version".

But there's another version, ;) allegedly. I dunno :illuminati:
That "Uncensored Patch" in the OP looks rather suspicious.
Is this a conspiracy against Patreon? I remains to be seen.

Edit:
If not, then the violence planned in this game has to be some hardcore shit to deserve an +18 rating.
More brutal than DOOM :LUL:

Perhaps he's substituting the usual schlock violence for hardcore emotional ?? violence. Like working his audience up into frenzied anticipation only to snatch the cup...or should it be cup the snatch :unsure: from their lips at the critical moment. Now that, given the quality of Claudia and the overall rendering would be far more brutal than Doom!! :D
 

Gosamr

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I apologize to the Dev if he is doing this for "technical" reasons. This whole carnal relationship thing is undoubtedly a minefield, for both Devs and, I reckon, for Patreon too (though not so much, it seems perhaps, for Subscribestar?).

It's ironic too that a whole lot of the fuss about this particular creation is due to the fact that so much of it has thus far proven to be immaculately produced and very, very entertaining. We can see from the comments in here including my own, that most of it is frustration. Frustration that non-censorship in both here and Patreon is pretty commonplace and, one assumes officially accepted, and thus not usually, where appropriate, thought twice about because we're all (supposed and assumed to be) sane, responsible, consenting, of-age, adults.
 
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