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It was...weird. It didn't fit her character. To me, throughout the game up to that point she had come off as the more conservative "wifey" type that I generally go for (and that I like IRL as well - I prefer prudish, conservative, trustworthy women in a general sense for relationships) and I still like her, but it was a strange scene that felt out of place. When I filled out the feedback bit at the end of the chapter, I had mentioned that it was strange - her and the MC hadn't even kissed yet IIRC, and she goes right from a massage to a weird BDSM style blowjob...it's just odd.

Now I will say I'd be totally cool if things had developed more vanilla initially and then later she disclosed some of her kinks to the MC - everyone has them, and that's cool. I think it would have been kinda hot if, after they'd been intimate for some time in-game she was like "Hey MC, I'd kinda like to experiment a little...what would you think of me tying you to the bed for some fun? Or maybe you could start putting me in a chastity belt and controlling my access to pleasure moving forward?"

The more experimental stuff can come later once the two people are intimate and have established a more solid relationship. That's always been my relationship process with women and has worked well - establish the normal intimate chemistry first and once that works well, you can start looking into anal, having her wear outfits for you, etc.
Only if that kink is optional, otherwise it would be even worse to introduce any kink without prior warning in an advanced game.
 
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yeah I think my issue was the fact it was too porny and felt like it came out of nowhere. I think I would of been more okay with it being a porny scene if it didn't feel like it came out of nowhere to me. As I never felt like their relationship was going to move to a lewd scene like that it kind of just happened. Yeah if she is inexperienced the scene it's self makes more sense for her character , just not how random it felt to me. but thanks I was just curious if I was alone in feeling that about her scene been thinking about for awhile now.

Tho Maggie still doesn't hold a candle to Allison and Jasmine for me right now. Tho I do think I might like Maggie more than Jasmine in the future as right now Jasmine seems like she isn't really a LI to keep around but someone to have casual fun with. While I think Allison and maybe Maggie depending on how future updates for her pan out worth a romantic relationship.
I am not sure if there is that scene if MC was cold towards her but I played the nice guy path and I think it felt there was good enough built up tbh. Even after restaurant scene was good, though she is feeling sad prevented it. So, it was not out of place for me or how it happened out of character for her. Though, I do understand why you guys feel that way.

It was...weird. It didn't fit her character. To me, throughout the game up to that point she had come off as the more conservative "wifey" type that I generally go for (and that I like IRL as well - I prefer prudish, conservative, trustworthy women in a general sense for relationships) and I still like her, but it was a strange scene that felt out of place. When I filled out the feedback bit at the end of the chapter, I had mentioned that it was strange - her and the MC hadn't even kissed yet IIRC, and she goes right from a massage to a weird BDSM style blowjob...it's just odd.
Ah, now I get it. You need to divide that scene into 2 pieces. Bj part and tying part. Tying part comes from her vulnerability and fear of men. She is broken and unless she has the feeling she is secure, she is not going to do anything. Other part was bj, their relationship reached to that point in my opinion. Merging these two was pure coincidence though. She has seen MC's dick, she has the opportunity to satisfy her curiosity. So it was spur of a moment thing. On top of that, she is totally into MC and MC almost died for her just before that scene. If MC tease her about it afterwards, she becomes her kinda prudish, conservative persona and stops MC.

I really don't see a problem with it but it just my opinion. (y):)
 
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Only if that kink is optional, otherwise it would be even worse to introduce any kink without prior warning in an advanced game.
I agree - kinks should be optional, always. Most devs are good with giving you the choice to opt out or in for most things like that.
 

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Ah, now I get it. You need to divide that scene into 2 pieces. Bj part and tying part. Tying part comes from her vulnerability and fear of men. She is broken and unless she has the feeling she is secure, she is not going to do anything. Other part was bj, their relationship reached to that point in my opinion. Merging these two was pure coincidence though. She has seen MC's dick, she has the opportunity to satisfy her curiosity. So it was spur of a moment thing. On top of that, she is totally into MC and MC almost died for her just before that scene. If MC tease her about it afterwards, she becomes her kinda prudish, conservative persona and stops MC.

I really don't see a problem with it but it just my opinion. (y):)
I think what might have helped there is if they'd had some kissing or some such leading up to it. I don't remember them really kissing though (correct me if I'm wrong). I think it was the transition of the scene to something so edgy as their first sexual encounter that was what was jarring for people.

I'll also add here I think you're probably right about the security bit with Maggie - no doubt that plays into it.
 
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She was just trying to suck the depression out of him. :WeSmart:
I mean, yeah and Maggie was just sucking out the concussion he got the night before or something like that.
I'm just saying that setups like that are kinda the expectation with this game imo.
 

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I think what might have helped there is if they'd had some kissing or some such leading up to it. I don't remember them really kissing though (correct me if I'm wrong).
She kissed him in Episode 2, just the day after the Party. It was just a way to thank him tho.

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Dessolos

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I don't think that's uncharacteristic, though. MC can get his dick sucked by Natalya two minutes after meeting her for the first time, which is a total whiplash moment, because it's almost right after Lily's accident and everyone is all depressed.
for the MC sure but I do think it's out of character for Maggie personally as it kind of felt like it came out of no where to me. Now that doesn't mean I don't think it shouldn't of happen cause clearly Maggie was wanting to be with the MC since the restaurant . So the romantic feelings was there from before. What was missing for me was some kind of romantic conversation , kissing something that would make sense for the scene to happen. As I felt like it just kind of just happened for no real reason other to add a lewd scene with the way it did happen. It lacks any real build up
 

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As I felt like it just kind of just happened for no real reason other to add a lewd scene with the way it did happen. It lacks any real build up
What I'm trying to say is that the game is just like that and not only in Maggie's case. Like, there's no meaningful difference between the canon sex scenes and the bonus gallery.
I don't think the MC is supposed to be the archetype for romantic conversations. The game is more like an action movie than a romantic comedy and more like an adventure than a dating sim.
 
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I hope we get the choice to really stir up some drama and fuck best buddies wife. Come on this MC if played a certain way is a huge douche manwhore
 
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i am not fan of ntr, cheating, or sharing.
yeah that's why I don't like the idea of making the MC into a manwhore but rather someone that wants to settle down and stop sleeping around since his divorce. Hence why I only played solo paths in this game
 
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I am not sure if there is that scene if MC was cold towards her but I played the nice guy path and I think it felt there was good enough built up tbh. Even after restaurant scene was good, though she is feeling sad prevented it. So, it was not out of place for me or how it happened out of character for her. Though, I do understand why you guys feel that way.


Ah, now I get it. You need to divide that scene into 2 pieces. Bj part and tying part. Tying part comes from her vulnerability and fear of men. She is broken and unless she has the feeling she is secure, she is not going to do anything. Other part was bj, their relationship reached to that point in my opinion. Merging these two was pure coincidence though. She has seen MC's dick, she has the opportunity to satisfy her curiosity. So it was spur of a moment thing. On top of that, she is totally into MC and MC almost died for her just before that scene. If MC tease her about it afterwards, she becomes her kinda prudish, conservative persona and stops MC.

I really don't see a problem with it but it just my opinion. (y):)
I think we're in the minority here Def.

I didn't like it as part of the Maggie romancing (and definitely hope that femdom is not the constant), but I get this one.

Try not to think of it as femdom and porn. But Maggie finding a way that she feels safe to take the relationship to the next level.
 

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I think we're in the minority here Def.

I didn't like it as part of the Maggie romancing (and definitely hope that femdom is not the constant), but I get this one.

Try not to think of it as femdom and porn. But Maggie finding a way that she feels safe to take the relationship to the next level.
yeah once I read some post I agree with this take and makes a whole lot of sense. However I still have the issue of it feeling like it came out of no where with not enough build up and felt really random to me. Which is why I say it feels more like a porno scene. If there was a bit of build up before the scene it wouldnt have that porn feel to me, but that might just be me and thinking there wasn't enough build up and it feeling real random that it came out of nowhere.
 

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yeah once I read some post I agree with this take and makes a whole lot of sense. However I still have the issue of it feeling like it came out of no where with not enough build up and felt really random to me. Which is why I say it feels more like a porno scene. If there was a bit of build up before the scene it wouldnt have that porn feel to me, but that might just be me and thinking there wasn't enough build up and it feeling real random that it came out of nowhere.
I agree it came straight out of nowhere and was annoyed first time I saw it, until I started to think about it more. I made a much longer post about it, about a week ago, trying to defend poor Maggie who was getting attacked by everyone. Lol.

https://f95zone.to/threads/race-of-life-ep-3-1-extra-fix-v3-underground-studio.130096/post-13891381
 

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Is this VN gonna be only solo LI routes or there'll be throuples and other flexible combinations(besides harem, pretty sure this won't have harem)?
 
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