VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 Steam] [Underground Studio]

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Zorro#34

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Razzier said:
I think it's very obvious, at the beginning of the game, that Veronica is a FWB. Veronica has feelings for him, but he sees the relationship as more of a friendship, that has a sexual component to it.

This is further reinforced by the lack of MCs desire to have her involved in his life beyond what was on the surface level. It's why I'm not against being at a distance with her, nor her breaking off the supposed 'relationship' when he refuses her. She wanted something that he was not willing/comfortable with, and when he doesn't (or does) reciprocate, the relationship collapses (or goes to the next level).

Her competition with Jasmine was utterly childish on her part, and really only threw me off the first time I ran through that scene. I get it, you're jealous, but you're also jealous at a girl that is 10? 15? years younger, and your response to it is to try and match the freak? God damn.
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I think it's ultimately wrong to keep someone as your FWB when they quite obviously have feelings for you. Jake should have either broken up with her or entered the full relationship long ago; instead, he kept using her for her professional support and sex either until she got completely heartbroken and broke things off herself or until circumstances forced him into accepting her for at least some stability in his desperate situation (yeah, that's how I interpret his decision on her path - I think he doesn't really love her either way, he just wanted to stabilize the situation).
Jake is at fault for their relationship problems, just like he was the guilty party with Allison. His thing with Veronica can still be salvaged however, and I'll make sure he does it on my watch.
As for the competition… It shows how unhappy and desperate she really is, and I feel for her, even though she shouldn't really pay any attention to Jasmine.
 
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Zorro#34 said:
I think it's ultimately wrong to keep someone as your FWB when they quite obviously have feelings for you. Jake should have either broken up with her or entered the full relationship long ago; instead, he kept using her for her professional support and sex either until she got completely heartbroken and broke things off herself or until circumstances forced him into accepting her for at least some stability in his desperate situation (yeah, that's how I interpret his decision on her path - I think he doesn't really love her either way, he just wanted to stabilize the situation).
Jake is at fault for their relationship problems, just like he was the guilty party with Allison. His thing with Veronica can still be salvaged however, and I'll make sure he does it on my watch.
As for the competition… It shows how unhappy and desperate she really is, and I feel for her, even though she shouldn't really pay any attention to Jasmine.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but ultimately, she's a mature woman who has to realize that just because she wants someone, doesn't mean that they want them. It's already hinted multiple times that she tried to make herself something more in his life, and failed spectacularly.


She built up this idea that he somehow owes her a relationship because she has been his pillar of support, and although he does cherish her for that, I do believe that he has made his stance well known several times. She still kept pressing. I doubt Jake would've hated her/cut her off if she took sex off the table, because ultimately, he was not with her for sex alone.

Reality is, she thought she could get more out of damaged goods, and was surprised when the damaged goods were actually damaged. That is squarely on her. I can say that Jake isn't a good dude, which he himself admits as much, but he does try to bring himself back into shape once he realizes just how down the rabbit hole he went (in the non-dick version of his dialogue/behavior), which begs the question as to how much of a savior complex she has when despite all that, she keeps trying to 'fix him'.
 
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I'll just chime in to say Veronica is literally the reason why the loser MC has a job, let alone a fancy lab to work on his project. She wrote his grant proposals ffs. If I was then casually pushed aside off the project to make room for the sexy, bratty undergrad, I'd be pissed too. It's to her character's credit that she doesn't mention any of this to the MC.
 
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Zorro#34

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Razzier said:
She built up this idea that he somehow owes her a relationship because she has been his pillar of support, and although he does cherish her for that, I do believe that he has made his stance well known several times. She still kept pressing. I doubt Jake would've hated her/cut her off if she took sex off the table, because ultimately, he was not with her for sex alone.
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Yeah, he would accept it rather smoothly, though he's still disappointed/angry when she actually does it in-game. But, as far as we know, he didn't turn down sex with her until the player starts controlling him and gets corresponding choices, despite suspecting that she wants more. Him refusing to be responsible, make a final decision and either break up for good or "upgrade" their thing complemented to their problems as much as V's persistence. To me, learning to be responsible is the main point of his character arc, not just on V's path, but on Allison's and Maggie's too.
I do admit that V has made mistakes in their relationship too, and that she shouldn't have been as blind as she was, but I ultimately find her motivations and reasons for it sympathetic, unlike Jake's, who took her for granted and didn't give much in return.
 
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Zorro#34 said:
I think it's ultimately wrong to keep someone as your FWB when they quite obviously have feelings for you. Jake should have either broken up with her or entered the full relationship long ago; instead, he kept using her for her professional support and sex either until she got completely heartbroken and broke things off herself or until circumstances forced him into accepting her for at least some stability in his desperate situation (yeah, that's how I interpret his decision on her path - I think he doesn't really love her either way, he just wanted to stabilize the situation).
Jake is at fault for their relationship problems, just like he was the guilty party with Allison. His thing with Veronica can still be salvaged however, and I'll make sure he does it on my watch.
As for the competition… It shows how unhappy and desperate she really is, and I feel for her, even though she shouldn't really pay any attention to Jasmine.
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I disagree.

Jake is not at fault about their relationship problems with the decisions possible to the player. Its not his fault that they have different expecations of the relationship, they are - despite the similar age - in entirely different situations in their lifes.

And it is possible to play Jake in a way that he is very open and honest about his intentions (if you dont have really any but fwb) and to communicate it with her too. They are simply incompatible and should break up if none of them changes their intentions. I would say until this point both hoped kinda the other one would align with their idea over time.

But Veronica is a women who wants a stable life and kids and probably has some kind of last minute panic while Jake is a dad already and had the life she craves already.

He was for sure the guilty party with allison, but depending on how you played him not with veronica. He was open about what he was able to give her which made it possible for her to make the decision that its not enough, that she wants more and needs to breakup.
 
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Krytax123 said:
And it is possible to play Jake in a way that he is very open and honest about his intentions (if you dont have really any but fwb) and to communicate it with her too. They are simply incompatible and should break up if none of them changes their intentions.
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I don't accuse Jake of anything as far as his player-controlled decisions are concerned, because they can be different, and I only bring up some of them as illustrations for his possible motivations. My main problem with him here is how he treated V prior to the game's start (and a couple of minor things he does in-game which are out of player's control).

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I would say until this point both hoped kinda the other one would align with their idea over time.
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Yes, but Jake had no moral right for that because on her side, feelings were involved. As the one with the clear head in their pair, once he understood that she doesn't get his "I'm not readies", Jake had to either break up with her or take the next step, and by hesitating to take responsibility for it, he ultimately toyed with her feelings while benefitting from the whole thing.
 
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Zorro#34 said:
I don't accuse Jake of anything as far as his player-controlled decisions are concerned, because they can be different, and I only bring up some of them as illustrations for his possible motivations. My main problem with him here is how he treated V prior to the game's start (and a couple of minor things he does in-game which are out of player's control).



Yes, but Jake had no moral right for that because on her side, feelings were involved. As the one with the clear head in their pair, once he understood that she doesn't get his "I'm not readies", Jake had to either break up with her or take the next step, and by hesitating to take responsibility for it, he ultimately toyed with her feelings while benefitting from the whole thing.
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I mean in most fwb relationships are some kind of feelings from at least one side involved, its never simply black and white and like a switch turning them on or off.

I dont know why you interpret Jake's behavior before the game started like that when all he does in the beginning is to reaffirm that he doesnt look for anything serious right now. To me it gives the impression he behaved like that before the game started too.

And Veronica started the girlfriend-behvaior/stuff with the beginning of the game as shes hoping to take the next step. Imo all of this was fair game from both of them, they just simply are not compatible at this points in their lifes (if the player doesnt want a relationship).

Mind you he never stayed the night at her place or she at his, he never introduced her to his social circle at this point, this isnt a serious relationship. You are not supposed to break up with your partner for them, its her decision to evaluate what she wants from her life and relationships.
 
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I always saw Veronica in a "I can fix him" mode when the MC wasn't necessarily looking to be fixed by her. I personally don't care for her character, doubly so after she felt threatened by Jasmine and felt the need to compete. So that just leaves her looks and while I think she's attractive, that's not enough to run her route for me. While I don't agree with everything the MC did in regards to her, I do think he's justified in keeping her at arms length if he's content with the way things are. Had it been me in the MC's place, I would have completely understood her wanting to "break up" and go away for a bit.
 
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Elduriel said:
Also I still don't trust Nat, I avoid her at all costs (even though she is hot af)
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She keeps dropping shit in Russian. I would've already contacted the FBI after the first five minutes of talking to her.

In order to know for certain, we need to somehow get her into a squat. It's the ultimate test.

Heels to sky? Western spy. Heels to ground? Comrade found.
 
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Sony676 said:
Shouldn't there be another devlog anytime soon? Last one happened nearly one month ago and it sounded like the update is close to being finished.
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yes, anyway do u know how to unlock last 2 scenes next to the yoga scene pls. i need them.
nvm got them
 
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kukareku said:
She's spy agent, probably russian agent :D Honeypot for MC
At charity ball she uses old russinan proverb about monastery and going there with own rules
You don't go to someone else's monastery with your own rules)
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she uses the spies fake dialog from spy x family :ROFLMAO:
 
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