I mean your character does start off as an A-hole, he literally cheated on his wife, so having to break up, in a casual relationship, not even a serious one, isn't that big of a deal comparatively.
This is my point. You try to have some redemption only to be more of an asshole than you started as, this kind of defeats the whole "I'm doing better". Plus the first (real) time you can break things off is when you're prompted to get serious or not, this just leaves a bad aftertaste in my mouth, and I just really wished we could have better options for that
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I honestly didn't have a problem ignoring Veronica till she broke up with the MC. Because I really couldn't stand her for me she felt to damn pushy for a relationship too soon after the accident. That left a real bad taste in my mouth and ruined her character for me. But yeah if it was anyone else id have a issue being an asshole just to dump their ass.
I personally didn't feel she was being pushy, but that might just be me. I actually really like Veronica, its just when you look at the other Li's,(Allison and Jasmine are the best, I love Maggie too ) she isn't high in the rankings. I feel if she was in a different game she might be higher on the list possibly.
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didn't like her from the beginning, always dump her the first chance I get. I only have two saves for Jammin and Allie. Rest of the LIs don't do it for me. Maggie was sort of okay, but that massage scene ruined it for me. That's so not in her character. Or at least I thought.
I don't know if breaking up with someone is an A-hole thing to do, it sucks, but I don't think breaking up with a character ruins his redemption, cause it shows he doesn't want to be the same cheater.
Oh yeah I wasn't just talking about Veronica, but in other games as well with a similar setting. I just hate starting a story where you're already (half) committed and then engaging any other LIs would be cheating.
I actually liked Veronica as well and didn't see her as pushing, from what it's been told they've been dating for quite a while, so it's only fair she wanted to know if she could be more serious with the MC, to also help emotionally. That's how I felt it was at least
My issue was more on the "how" here. We're not presented with what I think are good options, either you're a big asshole with the very first option or you're just a bad guy overall for the second time. There is no right answers anyway, I just didn't like any of the choices we had. Might as well not start dating at all to be honest
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After the accident was when I got sick of her too, just seemed kind of shitty to keep pushing after. Made choosing Jammin over her even easier though.
I personally don't think she was pushy, but to each their own. And to be fair, MC doesn't tell her anything sbout the accident for the most part. Veronica doesn't really find out till the big party pretty much where you can take her, so she is pretty unaware about the accident.
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yeah for me it was only after the accident with her wanting a commitment that soured her for me tbh. It felt to much to soon imo barley even gave the MC a week after. Before that I had no issue with her and that is why I thought she comes across as pushy personally. I know she didn't know about the accident in detail but she had to know something serious was wrong especially if she talked to the boss as to why the MC is missing work.
Yeah I really hated the massage scene felt like something you would see on pornhub. It didn't ruin her character yet for me but left a negative mark on her character for me. I will see how she is in the future.
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honestly I'd retcon the shit out of that scene if it were up to me. I wouldn't mind a relationship with her, but it seems so fucking forced just to get some lewds in. It's too fast. Veronica scenes, okay, you are already in it, whatever. Jammin, she is wild, so understandable. Maggie on the other hand is not all that. Also I still don't trust Nat, I avoid her at all costs (even though she is hot af)
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yeah same it really felt like it came out of nowhere to me. I did not expect to see it at all. So yeah 100% agree it was kind of forced for lewds. Cause if I recall correctly they only been on 1 date and she came across as someone that would take things somewhat slow initially. Even tho she felt bad he got hurt and all of that just feels too damn quick without any buildup for her character imo.
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it is a good thing to me to see others have similar opinion as me.
i understand why is
) is so pushy with relationship. she is 30 and want husband. but its so suffocating to me.i understand Maggie at massage scene, it is in her. but didnt suit her.
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Plus, if I remember rightly, didn't the table break in order to expose his cock? That does not lead to sexy times for me, that leads to crossing my legs in sympathy and hoping he gets out of there before accidental castration!
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This. It's the MC who keeps Veronica at a distance, she's actually really interested in his problems. She offers him help twice as soon as she learns something's wrong the day after the accident - he declines and hangs out with Maggie and then Cooper instead (well, Allison too, but that one is entirely justified). She wants to meet his daughter - he doesn't let her. She wants to meet his best friend - he's against it again. When he suggests that she hang out with Allison, she's actually open to the idea - only for the MC to back down on the offer. It's really hard for her to address the issues she fails to learn much about - so she focuses on her own problems with the MC (he's obviously keeping her at a distance, so she needs to do whatever it takes to keep him, even if that means trying to keep up in "wildness" with the likes of Jasmine).
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I think it's very obvious, at the beginning of the game, that Veronica is a FWB. Veronica has feelings for him, but he sees the relationship as more of a friendship, that has a sexual component to it.
This is further reinforced by the lack of MCs desire to have her involved in his life beyond what was on the surface level. It's why I'm not against being at a distance with her, nor her breaking off the supposed 'relationship' when he refuses her. She wanted something that he was not willing/comfortable with, and when he doesn't (or does) reciprocate, the relationship collapses (or goes to the next level).
Her competition with Jasmine was utterly childish on her part, and really only threw me off the first time I ran through that scene. I get it, you're jealous, but you're also jealous at a girl that is 10? 15? years younger, and your response to it is to try and match the freak? God damn.
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I think it's ultimately wrong to keep someone as your FWB when they quite obviously have feelings for you. Jake should have either broken up with her or entered the full relationship long ago; instead, he kept using her for her professional support and sex either until she got completely heartbroken and broke things off herself or until circumstances forced him into accepting her for at least some stability in his desperate situation (yeah, that's how I interpret his decision on her path - I think he doesn't really love her either way, he just wanted to stabilize the situation).
Jake is at fault for their relationship problems, just like he was the guilty party with Allison. His thing with Veronica can still be salvaged however, and I'll make sure he does it on my watch.
As for the competition… It shows how unhappy and desperate she really is, and I feel for her, even though she shouldn't really pay any attention to Jasmine.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but ultimately, she's a mature woman who has to realize that just because she wants someone, doesn't mean that they want them. It's already hinted multiple times that she tried to make herself something more in his life, and failed spectacularly.
She built up this idea that he somehow owes her a relationship because she has been his pillar of support, and although he does cherish her for that, I do believe that he has made his stance well known several times. She still kept pressing. I doubt Jake would've hated her/cut her off if she took sex off the table, because ultimately, he was not with her for sex alone.
Reality is, she thought she could get more out of damaged goods, and was surprised when the damaged goods were actually damaged. That is squarely on her. I can say that Jake isn't a good dude, which he himself admits as much, but he does try to bring himself back into shape once he realizes just how down the rabbit hole he went (in the non-dick version of his dialogue/behavior), which begs the question as to how much of a savior complex she has when despite all that, she keeps trying to 'fix him'.
I'll just chime in to say Veronica is literally the reason why the loser MC has a job, let alone a fancy lab to work on his project. She wrote his grant proposals ffs. If I was then casually pushed aside off the project to make room for the sexy, bratty undergrad, I'd be pissed too. It's to her character's credit that she doesn't mention any of this to the MC.