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if anyone here actually thinsk Allie is the type of person (given what we know and see of her) to go tits out in public like a dumb 18yo slut who's had a few jars too many
Of course you just had to bring that loosely argument, actually expected even. So what you're saying is when Women IRL remove their Top out of the blue at a Pool they are straight up Sluts but if Men do they are Chads, delusional much. Good thing those Women are not even real in this Game. :WeSmart:
 

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Hey, anyone know how to get the extended Jasmine and Natalya scene this update? Can't seem to unlock it no matter what combination run throughs I try, including leaving Victoria behind or breaking up with her, etc....
don't get into a relationship with jasmine and you can watch that whole scene in the sauna.
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Of course you just had to bring that loosely argument, actually expected even. So what you're saying is when Women IRL remove their Top out of the blue at a Pool they are straight up Sluts but if Men do they are Chads, delusional much. Good thing those Women are not even real in this Game. :WeSmart:
havent gotten to that scene yet but I mean it's still not in her character to go topless not in a private setting in fact id say it would be OUT of character.
 

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As for the update, it started well but I felt it petered out towards the end. Granted, I'm only playing a solo-Allison route which is clearly not the intended experience, but I was hoping for a more significant emotional connection with Allison in this episode. That doesn't really happen; the relationship is slowly mending and we can surprise Allison if we accept her advice, but overall the two are still dancing around the past (and the MC still leers at everything in sight no matter how hard I pull on the reins, which doesn't help). The closest we see to a genuine heart to heart winds up wasted when it's revealed Allison was already asleep. Instead we learn that Allison is feeling horny around the MC, which honestly feels like a regression after seeing her cook the MC dinner and letting him stay the night a couple updates ago. Maybe my tastes are just too eclectic, but as much as I adore the character I feel like her route - at least as I played it - doesn't flow very well.
I usually share your opinions mostly but this time i disagree. I think the development of the MC/Allie relationship is completly fine, we have to consider that just a few days passed at all since they really started to reconnect.

Allison being already asleep didnt really mattered imo in this case as both have already confirmed that they feel/felt like that, to other people and even to each other (at the ball for example), it was more about the MC realising it himself.

And i dont consider allison being aroused around the MC as character regression, she wasnt just eager for his cock, she is and was eager to share all these things together. Being the one who sits up front in deliah, being the one waking up in his arms and yeah of course being the one having sex with him. Its all part of the same thing: A life together.

Its kinda obvious that she never stopped wanting this and felt forced to divorce the MC, i think the possibility of the two of them breaking up simply never crossed her mind even when their relationship was bad.

And really the evening/night just after you had this future-deciding conference where you have been standing and talking all day long, isnt really the best time to have a deep emotional conversation about the past and future.

I think when being back home and esp after receiving the good information about lily's health is a way better opportunity for that.


I'm also still really confused by the MC lucking into a quarter million dollars at the end of the last update. Shouldn't that be a huge deal? Instead, he apparently tosses the money in a duffle bag and forgets about it. I guess the idea is that he needs even more money eventually so the business trip still has to be his top priority, but it's really weird that he didn't at least drop a big chunk of money off with Kalani before leaving. And with Lily healing well at the end of the update, it's not clear how much longer the treatments need to continue. The whole thing feels really incongruous IMHO.

I don't want to come off too negatively since I still like the game and enjoyed playing the update, but I felt like it ended on a very flat note. Maybe things would feel more cohesive if I played more of the other content? :unsure:

tl;dr Lots of awesome bits that don't fit well into a larger tapestry, but my experience may not be the best yardstick.
Its kind of the same like my answer to the first point but he got this money like 40 hours or something ago and had to prepare for the conference, there just wasnt really enough time (or at least its plausible that there may have not been time).

I think this will feels less confusing after the next episode is released and were playing it in one go.



Something else i not really noticed since i did a new playthrough just now, Allison started to wear her wedding ring again since the ball if the mc takes her with him which is kinda funny.

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If I had 1 euro for each time I saw real people go out of character in my nearly 50 yo of living I would be a rich man, including myself. We are human after all and not all the time predictable, and sometimes we do it for peer pressure or just for a "what the fuck, lets do it" moment. So I'll say it is perfectly normal that happens in fiction and in an AVN, it is also what gives it some spice and character development. If after that the character personality gives a turn or 180 degrees then yes it is bad writing, must be a somewhat slow change but usually done by moments like that.
 

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I think you're looking at it backwards. You gotta read the text where they talk about it.
Things like how Allison won a wet T-shirt contest in Cancun, and how that version of Allison makes sense to Jasmine.
So it's not that Allison's against being topless and Jasmine convinces her otherwise, it's that Allison was always a little more daring, but after having a kid and losing her marriage, she's not as confident any more.
It's not Allison doing something she doesn't want to do, it's Allison getting back to her old self before she lost everything.
Yeah i think this is it.

havent gotten to that scene yet but I mean it's still not in her character to go topless not in a private setting in fact id say it would be OUT of character.
I dont get that impression, we hear a lot of storys about the fun times Allison and MC had and about allie/mc/cooper/cammie shenigans in the past. They always seemed confident and adventerous.

There is nothing slutty about sunbathing topless at a pool with barely anyone around for like 30 minutes.

Some people are really blowing this out of proportion and behaving like allison gave a stripshow to a crowd of men wtf, its just some titties.

I mean is every women at a nude beach a slut too?

And imo it was believable displayed as Allison is a confident woman but as the other poster mentioned lost the confidence about her body since the divorce or birth or both. Jasmine was just rekindling a flame, she doesnt have the means to "pressure" a confident woman like allison into anything anyway, she just helped her to do what she wanted to to anyway.

And seems like Jasmine is helping Allison to do what she wants to do anyway with the mc too, best wingwoman ever :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yeah i think this is it.



I dont get that impression, we hear a lot of storys about the fun times Allison and MC had and about allie/mc/cooper/cammie shenigans in the past. They always seemed confident and adventerous.

There is nothing slutty about sunbathing topless at a pool with barely anyone around for like 30 minutes.

Some people are really blowing this out of character and behaving like allison gave a stripshow to a crowd of men wtf, its just some titties.

I mean is every women at a nude beach a slut too?

And imo it was believable displayed as Allison is a confident woman but as the other poster mentioned lost the confidence about her body since the divorce or birth or both. Jasmine was just rekindling a flame, she doesnt have the means to "pressure" a confident woman like allison into anything anyway, she just helped her to do what she wanted to to anyway.

And seems like Jasmine is helping Allison to do what she wants to do anyway with the mc too, best wingwoman ever :ROFLMAO:
i'll see when I get to that scene just going by a few things I read but so far it just feels like it would be out of character for me to what Allie is like now but not Allie of the past. To me it seems her confidence is shot and she comes across a little bit like a prude at times at least when around the MC. Since she hasn't accepted she still has feeling for him so tries to not look or do anything sexy or hot around him. At least that's how I see her character right now. But im playing the update slowly so maybe i'll change my mind after I see that scene.

I do agree people calling her a slut tho is overreaching nothing slutty about it. Hell I wouldn't even call Jasmine being a slut personally despite her being a little easy and showing her tits like it's nothing to the MC.
 
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it would be out of character for me to what Allie is like now but not Allie of the past.
This. She is also a high profile professional in her field who deals with a lot of important people, sponsors and grants and already been embarrassed at work once. People like that do not act like thay are 18 and the people they associate with sure as hell do not want to be known for associating with people like that. What she was like and did in her past is really quite irrelevent.

I do agree people calling her a slut tho is overreaching nothing slutty about it
Never called her a slut...I said acting like one and sorry, just cos Jas hot and a redhead doesn't exxcuse what she is and how she acts.

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As for the other comment from someone else...a pool party is usually in a private setting and property around people you know...if a woman goes to a random party, where she knows no one etc...and gets her tits out and starts partying...then yeah..sorry. Nothing wrong with being a slut either btw, they are a lot of fun..but they are what they are and Jas definitely is.

As for naked beaches, well, that's a dress code in many of them and on a nudist beach, also expected. Are some people really that desperate to try and defend their position they actually try and compare this crap?

lol...*shakes head*

Entire story just gone sideways by 2 counties...currently has more drift than his car.
 

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This. She is also a high profile professional in her field who deals with a lot of important people, sponsors and grants and already been embarrassed at work once. People like that do not act like thay are 18 and the people they associate with sure as hell do not want to be known for associating with people like that. What she was like and did in her past is really quite irrelevent.


Never called her a slut...I said acting like one and sorry, just cos Jas hot and a redhead doesn't exxcuse what she is and how she acts.

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As for the other comment from someone else...a pool party is usually in a private setting and property around people you know...if a woman goes to a random party, where she knows no one etc...and gets her tits out and starts partying...then yeah..sorry. Nothing wrong with being a slut either btw, they are a lot of fun..but they are what they are and Jas definitely is.

As for naked beaches, well, that's a dress code in many of them and on a nudist beach, also expected. Are some people really that desperate to try and defend their position they actually try and compare this shit

? lol...*shakes head*
oh yeah I wasn't talking about you just I think I saw a few others calling her one. Yeah I get how Jas is a slut to most just not to me... yet might change by time I finish this update tho. AVN's kinda of changed my perspective of what I see and consider as a slut nowdays compared to when I first started playing them lol.
 

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Hell I wouldn't even call Jasmine being a slut personally despite her being a little easy and showing her tits like it's nothing to the MC.
Maybe it's my being a fan of Jasmine talking but we don't see her flashing her tits around except to the MC. I think Natalya is right about her, Jasmine sees herself and wants to lead her life in a "businesslike" way so a defined relationship is not part of this vision of hers, even if she might want it.
 

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Maybe it's my being a fan of Jasmine talking but we don't see her flashing her tits around except to the MC.
Yeah this is a big part of my perspective in not seeing her as a slut tbh. As yeah she does flash her tits to the MC but not all the time either , the few times she does it's more in a teasing manner than a I want to fuck kind of way.
 
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i'll see when I get to that scene just going by a few things I read but so far it just feels like it would be out of character for me to what Allie is like now but not Allie of the past. To me it seems her confidence is shot and she comes across a little bit like a prude at times at least when around the MC. Since she hasn't accepted she still has feeling for him so tries to not look or do anything sexy or hot around him. At least that's how I see her character right now.
Oh wow, i see her completly different. Imo she never "not accepted" to have feelings for the MC, i mean she wears the wedding ring again early, has the wedding picture at the wall in her house years after the divorce.

Imo Allie's problem is the opposite, she is conflicted because she is fully aware that she never was able to stop having feelings for the MC but "forces"/expects herself to hate him. Her being still in love with him is the main reason why she stayed this angry the whole time.

She didnt suddenly realised "oh fuck, i still love him", imo its more like a "why do i still love this asshole?!" since the first time she appeared in this avn.

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Do you consider that not sexy? :love: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Oh wow, i see her completly different. Imo she never "not accepted" to have feelings for the MC, i mean she wears the wedding ring again early, has the wedding picture at the wall in her house years after the divorce.

Imo Allie's problem is the opposite, she is conflicted because she is fully aware that she never was able to stop having feelings for the MC but "forces"/expects herself to hate him. Her being still in love with him is the main reason why she stayed this angry the whole time.

She didnt suddenly realised "oh fuck, i still love him", imo its more like a "why do i still love this asshole?!" since the first time she appeared in this avn.

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I can see that point of view as well that's what's so great about Allie's character she is easy to have a somewhat different point of view in things. In fact I do also agree with alot of what you said so I guess I see her character with a bit of mine and your point of view combined all in one. Yeah that outfit is sexy and also very professional at the same time for me. Kind of what I mean she tries to look good but not overly sexy or hot like the other girls.
 
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I can see that point of view as well that's what's so great about Allie's character she is easy to have a somewhat different point of view in things. In fact I do also agree with alot of what you said so I guess I see her character with a bit of mine and your point of view combined all in one. Yeah that outfit is sexy and also very professional at the same time for me. Kind of what I mean she tries to look good but not overly sexy or hot like the other girls.
Yeah Jasmine said it the best, shes a "elegant hottie", classy and sophisticated.

And yeah i agree about her character being open to interpretation esp as the things she says, feels and subconsciously does are very conflicting at times which makes her such a amazing and realistic feeling LI
 

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Allison absolutely kills it if you take her to the charity ball and I'm constantly torn between Jammin and her. Meanwhile, I like Maggie well enough but not enough to want her over the other two and if I could have left Veronica on that cliff I would have. I don't understand how Allison could be considered a prude. No one that is/was in a friend group that included Cooper and Cammie could be a prude and survive. I think she just got absorbed in her professional life and being a mom, she just needs to let loose a little and she'll appreciate the MC again (in that route, of course).
 
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I loved the update, it was awesome imo and im very satisfied with the allison route.

Two things which were somewhat disappointing/unfitting for me tho:

1) The Jasmine love route was a mixed bag for me. The lewd itsself and the direct aftermath (jas being overwhelmed and joking) were great but everything else was a bit underwhelming.

I disliked that Jas kicked the MC out of the room afterwards and am always not really a fan of the whole "no expectations" angle. Of course it always works out in avns anyway as girls never are interested in other guys anywhere here but im still not the biggest fan.

Furthermore and i dont really liked Jasmines looks this episode (and shes my #2 LI here), i dont really liked her outfit for the conference and esp her makeup during the conference and even during the lewd. She looks weird at times.

Imo she looks best when she looks natural, her usual style and even her sophisticated style (like at the ball) are bangers so i thought her style was underwhelming this episode (not counting the bikini :ROFLMAO:) but maybe it was mostly the makeup.

2) I thought the Tiana message (and sending a nude of the doc!) was super strange and out of place. She knows the mc's daughter is in a coma and takes care of her and sends him nudes like some 18 year old girl? I didnt minded stuff like this from the college girls (alexa&friends) and it was somewhat fitting, but Tiana?

Dunno it was too much porn-logic for me in this interaction.


That are the two things i kinda disliked, but would still give this episode a 5/5, it was awesome. I really enjoyed Jasmine on the Allison path, her behavior was hilarious and awesome and the whole dynamic between the two of them was everything i hoped for lol

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I loved the update, it was awesome imo and im very satisfied with the allison route.

Two things which were somewhat disappointing/unfitting for me tho:

1) The Jasmine love route was a mixed bag for me. The lewd itsself and the direct aftermath (jas being overwhelmed and joking) were great but everything else was a bit underwhelming.

I disliked that Jas kicked the MC out of the room afterwards and am always not really a fan of the whole "no expectations" angle. Of course it always works out in avns anyway as girls never are interested in other guys anywhere here but im still not the biggest fan.

Furthermore and i dont really liked Jasmines looks this episode (and shes my #2 LI here), i dont really liked her outfit for the conference and esp her makeup during the conference and even during the lewd. She looks weird at times.

Imo she looks best when she looks natural, her usual style and even her sophisticated style (like at the ball) are bangers so i thought her style was underwhelming this episode (not counting the bikini :ROFLMAO:) but maybe it was mostly the makeup.

2) I thought the Tiana message (and sending a nude of the doc!) was super strange and out of place. She knows the mc's daughter is in a coma and takes care of her and sends him nudes like some 18 year old girl? I didnt minded stuff like this from the college girls (alexa&friends) and it was somewhat fitting, but Tiana?

Dunno it was too much porn-logic for me in this interaction.


That are the two things i kinda disliked, but would still give this episode a 5/5, it was awesome. I really enjoyed Jasmine on the Allison path, her behavior was hilarious and awesome and the whole dynamic between the two of them was everything i hoped for lol

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Well look back to what Natalya said to her. Jas was asking about all that relationship stuff about her and the prof....just like she got defensive about Veronica. She's clearly likes the guy, but she also doesn't want him to disappear the moment it gets serious. She made a crack about people not wanting to be around her after it wasnt fun anymore. She jokes about her insecurities. She immediately joked about getting married and having kids. In a way shes's joking and in a way shes defensive about it. She also knows you've been sleeping with other women and shes acting like shes cool about it when maybe she isnt. Its probably going to go somewhere.
 
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