VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.02] [Underground Studio]

[cooldevo]

He does tell her. Initially he texts that he's fine after she's told he's taking a few days off, but then she calls and she's informed of Lily's condition.

Eventually MC does tell her, yes. If I recall correctly, you can be more open and upfront or more vague and dismissing.

And then once she finds out what's happening, she wants to get in close to support the 'most important person in her life' (I will assume) in the way she knows how. Many people in real life, if their significant other is affected by such a traumatic can be more clingy. Can't really fault her intentions for that, as she's just trying to be there for her man, in the way she knows how.

The big difference is not everyone wants/needs the same thing in trauma. Grief and tragedy play out very differently for each person. Some people need a rock for support, something like what V is (I think) trying to offer... something to hold on to, to weather the proverbial storm as it swirls around. Others turn to drugs/alcohol. And others just need some time to themselves to sort themselves out. Providing the wrong kind of support to someone in a trauma can be very abrasive, absolutely.

I don't fault her, in the story, for trying to support MC in the best way she knows how. Is it the right way? I guess that depends on the reader.

 

[MagicMan753]

Eventually MC does tell her, yes. If I recall correctly, you can be more open and upfront or more vague and dismissing.

And then once she finds out what's happening, she wants to get in close to support the 'most important person in her life' (I will assume) in the way she knows how. Many people in real life, if their significant other is affected by such a traumatic can be more clingy. Can't really fault her intentions for that, as she's just trying to be there for her man, in the way she knows how.

The big difference is not everyone wants/needs the same thing in trauma. Grief and tragedy play out very differently for each person. Some people need a rock for support, something like what V is (I think) trying to offer... something to hold on to, to weather the proverbial storm as it swirls around. Others turn to drugs/alcohol. And others just need some time to themselves to sort themselves out. Providing the wrong kind of support to someone in a trauma can be very abrasive, absolutely.

I don't fault her, in the story, for trying to support MC in the best way she knows how. Is it the right way? I guess that depends on the reader.

Exactly this. I don't know why people make her out to be a bad person or selfish, when she isn't. The MC literally keeps her at an arms length for a little, then once she finds out she supports him.

Its ok to not like her or not be interested in her, but to call her a bad person or selfish or anything else, I think is idiotic and just hating for the sake of hating her., when actually she is great.

 

[byaaahh]

Eventually MC does tell her, yes. If I recall correctly, you can be more open and upfront or more vague and dismissing.

And then once she finds out what's happening, she wants to get in close to support the 'most important person in her life' (I will assume) in the way she knows how. Many people in real life, if their significant other is affected by such a traumatic can be more clingy. Can't really fault her intentions for that, as she's just trying to be there for her man, in the way she knows how.

The big difference is not everyone wants/needs the same thing in trauma. Grief and tragedy play out very differently for each person. Some people need a rock for support, something like what V is (I think) trying to offer... something to hold on to, to weather the proverbial storm as it swirls around. Others turn to drugs/alcohol. And others just need some time to themselves to sort themselves out. Providing the wrong kind of support to someone in a trauma can be very abrasive, absolutely.

I don't fault her, in the story, for trying to support MC in the best way she knows how. Is it the right way? I guess that depends on the reader.

The issue is that Veronica learns about Lily's coma a day or two after it happens, but makes no mention of how it is affecting the MC. I don't even think she acknowledges Lily until she offers to help him by taking flowers or toys to her bedside, which doesn't happen until they're in the car to the convention.

Between the time she learns of the accident and the conference there is the ball, the hike and the yoga session. She does however keep pushing for the MC to commit more time to her, despite knowing his situation.

EDIT: just went through the accident portion. Lily gets hit, MC goes hospital then home, sleeps, next morning V texts asking if everything's good, MC says he's fine, MC returns to hospital then goes home and tells V the situation. So she learns about it the day after the accident.

 

[pitao]

Question: I've read to get the threesome with Jas and Nat you shouldn't be on the romance path with Jas. My question is, Why would i want a threesome with her if i'm not on her path? And can i avoid the threesome if involved with Nat and not Jas?

You just don't get the extended threesome scene if you are in the romance path with Jas. So far (I'm at the beginning of the next day after the conference) any sex scene in this update is easily avoidable, to avoid that threesome just chose to go to the bar and not to the sauna if you went with Jas+Nat. And nope you don't get a solo scene with Nat until the end of the conference day, only the threesome is available I think.

 

[MagicMan753]

You just don't get the extended threesome scene if you are in the romance path with Jas. So far (I'm at the next day after the conference) any sex scene in this update is easily avoidable, to avoid that threesome just chose to go to the bar and not to the sauna if you went with Jas+Nat.

When does the romance path actually start with her. Like do I avoid all scenes with her, Is the car scene on hill fine? I don't know what actually gets you on her path.

 

[byaaahh]

When does the romance path actually start with her. Like do I avoid all scenes with her, Is the car scene on hill fine? I don't know what actually gets you on her path.

Romance with Jas is post-race celebration with titty champagne, I believe.

 

[pitao]

When does the romance path actually start with her. Like do I avoid all scenes with her, Is the car scene on hill fine? I don't know what actually gets you on her path.

In the end of prior update 3.1 after the race Jasmine ask if want to go with her if you say yes then later appears another choice and if you take a sip then you get the Jas scene and enter her romantic path.

Edit : I must be one of the few that explore almost every path available, I have Jasmine, Natalya (where I mostly have fun with all if don't get me into romantic paths so I exclude Allie and Veronica and that scene with Jas), Allison good and bad path (even though I don't like much hate paths, I usually leave that for the end) 2 with veronica (faithful and cheating on her) and Maggie.

 

[byaaahh]

Edit : I must be one of the few that explore almost every path available, I have Jasmine, Natalya (where I mostly have fun with all if don't get me into romantic paths so I exclude Allie and Veronica and that scene with Jas), Allison good and bad path (even though I don't like much hate paths, I usually leave that for the end) 2 with veronica (faithful and cheating on her) and Maggie.

I honestly believe taking Nat to the conference is the best choice for ALL solo paths. It means V doesn't get pestered by Jas on the road trip, she doesn't expose herself to the lifeguard. Allie briefly gets 1 on 1 time with MC on the trip and when MC is checking them out at the pool, he ignores the other 2 ladies and focuses on her, boosting her self confidence.

Also, don't forget to do Kris Dom and sub paths

 

[pitao]

I honestly believe taking Nat to the conference is the best choice for ALL solo paths. It means V doesn't get pestered by Jas on the road trip, she doesn't expose herself to the lifeguard. Allie briefly gets 1 on 1 time with MC on the trip and when MC is checking them out at the pool, he ignores the other 2 ladies and focuses on her, boosting her self confidence.

Also, don't forget to do Kris Dom and sub paths

Yep Nat goes in all solo paths, Kris/Alexa (and Kalani/Tiana) seems to be side girls, those 5 on my post seem to be the main LI's. Well Kris/Alexa scene when I did them I chose always Dom paths, I did run the sub path to open the scene in the gallery but when I have the choice I always chose Dom since there isn't a switcher path when sometimes the MC is dom sometimes the MC is sub and when the games give me that choice is usually what I take. I dislike a lot being always under sub paths hahaha.

 

[cooldevo]

The issue is that Veronica learns about Lily's coma a day or two after it happens, but makes no mention of how it is affecting the MC. I don't even think she acknowledges Lily until she offers to help him by taking flowers or toys to her bedside, which doesn't happen until they're in the car to the convention.

Between the time she learns of the accident and the conference there is the ball, the hike and the yoga session. She does however keep pushing for the MC to commit more time to her, despite knowing his situation.

EDIT: just went through the accident portion. Lily gets hit, MC goes hospital then home, sleeps, next morning V texts asking if everything's good, MC says he's fine, MC returns to hospital then goes home and tells V the situation. So she learns about it the day after the accident.

Yes. But there are also some key events from before the collision. When MC sees her in the school, you find out she's your 'significant' other and she also has a very important role working on the battery project. So they do have a rather extensive past, but is kept somewhat vague (timeline-wise). When MC goes on the date with her, the backstory is expanded further and she'll end up asking where MC sees the relationship going. Is it fast? Sure, to the player but in the scope of their backstory we are jumping in after there is already significant past between them. She's not just interested in a booty call, and wants to know if MC sees a future. Not entirely unreasonable, taking into account how vague some of the backstory timeline details are.

I haven't replayed post-collision in a bit, but I seem to recall several occasions in which she asked how MC was doing, if there was anything she could do to help. But I may be misremembering. Even her offering to go on something as simple as a hike, is a great way to take time away from being stuck in the traumatic event. Mental and emotional diversion can be critical for just about anyone, in order to avoid the endless spirals that can happen. Even when things are going bad, taking time away to experience positive emotions can be very critical. So again, in and of itself, isn't inherently bad for the MC.

Does she keep pushing for more in the relationship? Sure, I never said she wasn't. Am I defending it? No. She's going to have her own reactions to the traumatic event because her loved one is going through such hell. One of them may be to get "official". It could be selfish, or to provide a "light" in dark times.

 

[cooldevo]

Yep Nat goes in all solo paths, Kris/Alexa (and Kalani/Tiana) seems to be side girls, those 5 on my post seem to be the main LI's. Well Kris/Alexa scene when I did them I chose always Dom paths, I did run the sub path to open the scene in the gallery but when I have the choice I always chose Dom since there isn't a switcher path when sometimes the MC is dom sometimes the MC is sub and when the games give me that choice is usually what I take. I dislike a lot being always under sub paths hahaha.

Ahhhh, that would be why I never noticed the V and the lifeguard scenes. I always take Nat with me, even if that MC has no romantic interest in her. Especially since she brings on of the big names from the World Racing League over at the conference. Does that happen in a different way if Nat isn't there? Or do you miss out on the WRL guy she brings over?

 

[pitao]

Ahhhh, that would be why I never noticed the V and the lifeguard scenes. I always take Nat with me, even if that MC has no romantic interest in her. Especially since she brings on of the big names from the World Racing League over at the conference. Does that happen in a different way if Nat isn't there? Or do you miss out on the WRL guy she brings over?

Not sure, only ran V path with Nat going too (I said I explore Almost all, not every different variation or else I wouldn't do anything else hehe there is a lot branching in the update) in both faithful and cheating path I made with V.

 

[byaaahh]

Yes. But there are also some key events from before the collision. When MC sees her in the school, you find out she's your 'significant' other and she also has a very important role working on the battery project. So they do have a rather extensive past, but is kept somewhat vague (timeline-wise). When MC goes on the date with her, the backstory is expanded further and she'll end up asking where MC sees the relationship going. Is it fast? Sure, to the player but in the scope of their backstory we are jumping in after there is already significant past between them. She's not just interested in a booty call, and wants to know if MC sees a future. Not entirely unreasonable, taking into account how vague some of the backstory timeline details are.

I haven't replayed post-collision in a bit, but I seem to recall several occasions in which she asked how MC was doing, if there was anything she could do to help. But I may be misremembering. Even her offering to go on something as simple as a hike, is a great way to take time away from being stuck in the traumatic event. Mental and emotional diversion can be critical for just about anyone, in order to avoid the endless spirals that can happen. Even when things are going bad, taking time away to experience positive emotions can be very critical. So again, in and of itself, isn't inherently bad for the MC.

Does she keep pushing for more in the relationship? Sure, I never said she wasn't. Am I defending it? No. She's going to have her own reactions to the traumatic event because her loved one is going through such hell. One of them may be to get "official". It could be selfish, or to provide a "light" in dark times.

I mean it has been stated by MC he wasn't looking for anything serious after his divorce. It seems like the relationship was casual at first but V started catching feelings, which you can choose to reciprocate after the ball. All the dates are predicated on the fact she doesn't feel like they spend enough time together, nothing to do with lifting MCs spirits.

 

[byaaahh]

Ahhhh, that would be why I never noticed the V and the lifeguard scenes. I always take Nat with me, even if that MC has no romantic interest in her. Especially since she brings on of the big names from the World Racing League over at the conference. Does that happen in a different way if Nat isn't there? Or do you miss out on the WRL guy she brings over?

You still meet the WRL guy, the only real change is how the pool scene shakes out and no sauna

 

[Dessolos]

I'm more turned off by her trying to force the issue while he's in the middle of a crisis than anythign else. If she actually cared she'd back off a bit and let him get back to a point where he could even think about that. To me this behaviour indicated that she's more concerned about herself and her own needs than the needs of the person she supposedly cares for.

This my exact problem and thoughts with V as well it just doesn't sit right with me trying to make things official when she knows about Lilly so soon. Especially since the MC kind of said No to the idea about a week prior. Be much different if Lilly wasn't hurt or she waited a longer period of time as it felt too soon for me.

 

[Krytax123]

I wasn't a big fan of Coop, bit too much of a goofball. But when he turned up with that bag of money, he instantly went into the top echelon of AVN Best Friends and I love the guy. I'd go scorched earth for him too (like someone else suggested earlier).

Im usually not a fan of these goofball characters, for example im not the biggest fan of derek form you know what.

But unlike derek, Cooper really shows and proves that he cares! Derek talks a lot and does nothing, Cooper talks a lot too but shows initative and really thinks about how he can help his friend during a tragic time.

I started to really like him after the call from allison about Lilly being in the hospital and his sudden switch from goofball to "Get in the car. I drive you there fast and you worry about your daughter." and even suggesting selling his and cammie's house for lilys treatment.

MC would be utterly fucked without cooper, he wouldnt even have started racing or having any clue how to implant his technology into cars. Cooper is such a big catalysator for so many good things happening to/with the mc.

Even his trashtalking/badmouthing of Allison is something he only does to support the mc, trying to make the mc feel less sad/terrible/guilty about the breakup painint her in a bad light even tho it was the mc who fucked up and cooper ending kinda in the crossfire due to it.

He doesnt care, he doesnt mind, he's loyal. And i think everyone wanting Cammie as a LI/lewd is disgusting lmao

Really love his genuine happy expression in this render after the second race win:

 

[mitymity]

I've started a fresh play-through and all the errors are gone (elevator scene etc), also no missing renders from what i've seen.

 

[Blackheartz_]

I honestly hope this doesn't happen I like Coop and don't want to see him and his wife split up. tbh even if they did I would not play her path because of Coop because still a shitty thing to do even if they are split.

Yeah i totally understand that sentiment. Tbh id be happy with atleast an extra scene with Camille. The side story option would be perfect because it would have no connection to the main story so it wouldnt affect those against this happening.. Will see what the dev ends up doing.

 

[Krytax123]

This my exact problem and thoughts with V as well it just doesn't sit right with me trying to make things official when she knows about Lilly so soon. Especially since the MC kind of said No to the idea about a week prior. Be much different if Lilly wasn't hurt or she waited a longer period of time as it felt too soon for me.

Yeah this, i cant see how people can see this behavior and excuse it with "well she had to wait a long time already, she wants clarification NOW", like what the fuck?

His little daughter is in a life-threatening coma since a few days and he has to come up with money for her treatment and thats the fucking moment where she needs clarification so badly?!

And even worse, she considers herself important for the MC's project and than just leaves at a time where its the most important for him to succeed because he needs the money from his project for his daughter.

How is that not utterly shitty? "You either commit to me now or i will stop supporting your project and you can look for yourself how youre gonna be able to get the funds for your daughter, fuck you, what do i care about the little bitch". Just reverse the genders and you will see how fucking creepy and disgusting that is.

Yeah yeah, very caring and supportive.

But she obviously did jackshit anyway as her being absent doesnt damage the project in any way at all lol

And why the fuck are people keep saying that she is the mc's S.O. or girlfriend in the beginning when his thoughts are literally this:

Spoiler: MC's thoughts about their "relationship"

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[MagicMan753]

Yeah this, i cant see how people can see this behavior and excuse it with "well she had to wait a long time already, she wants clarification NOW", like what the fuck?

His little daughter is in a life-threatening coma since a few days and he has to come up with money for her treatment and thats the fucking moment where she needs clarification so badly?!

And even worse, she considers herself important for the MC's project and than just leaves at a time where its the most important for him to succeed because he needs the money from his project for his daughter.

How is that not utterly shitty? "You either commit to me now or i will stop supporting your project and you can look for yourself how youre gonna be able to get the funds for your daughter, fuck you, what do i care about the little bitch". Just reverse the genders and you will see how fucking creepy and disgusting that is.

Yeah yeah, very caring and supportive.

But she obviously did jackshit anyway as her being absent doesnt damage the project in any way at all lol

And why the fuck are people keep saying that she is the mc's S.O. or girlfriend in the beginning when his thoughts are literally this:

Spoiler: MC's thoughts about their "relationship"

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So are we just excusing the MC then for getting blowjobs from Nat, hitting on students, and so on with others, while his daughter is in a coma.

Veronica is not evil or bad, or selfish, I would argue the MC is worst, his own daughter is in the coma, but he is fine to fuck around, but Veronica wanting realtionship is bad, especially when she didn't the know the full story for a good while.