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Veronica and Allison have the hottest lewd scenes by far, which I reckon is because MC has pre-established relations with both of them.

On a side note, does it even matter what lingerie you pick for Veronica in this scene? She always wears the red one during the hotel scene. Is it a bug or intended?
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wouldn't know about V I didn't play her path as I don't find her attractive tho alot it has to do with how I just don't like her but even before I got to that point she was only okay for me.

If I would include extra scenes the Jasmine extra is the hottest one for me followed by the Allie one
 
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wouldn't know about V I didn't play her path as I don't find her attractive tho alot it has to do with how I just don't like her but even before I got to that point she was only okay for me.

If I would include extra scenes the Jasmine extra is the hottest one for me followed by the Allie one
The Allison one is more emotional. It should be included in the main story as flash back.
 

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Right near the end of the current update Maggie explains why she did what she did and that she has no interest in doing something like that again.
i felt like the dev said: okay okay guys, i see you all dont like it, so now Maggie will step back with it.
but hey, its a good thing. they could have ignore everyone who dont like it, but no.
 

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i felt like the dev said: okay okay guys, i see you all dont like it, so now Maggie will step back with it.
but hey, its a good thing. they could have ignore everyone who dont like it, but no.
My thoughts exactly. It totally sounded like an ex machina explanation to answer the many complaints the author received. Still, you can't progress with her unless the massage scene is completed. It would have been nice if the scene in EP4 happened nevertheless with a slightly different dialogue, if the MC interrupted the massage early. From how Maggie has been described so far, she wouldn't be negatively impressed if the MC showed some modesty!
 
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Yeah if im being honest out of all the lewd scenes ive seen besides the parking lot scene not sure what the other V scenes are like. I thought the Jasmine lewd scene is one of the worst ones because of the feel of it yeah it was hot and good quality when it comes to the actual sex. But the context and build up behind it honestly kind of sucked and I didn't like the maid outfit at all.

( not counting the 2 BJ's from Nat)
If this scene was the 3rd or 4th sex scene between Jammin and Jake, I wouldn't criticize it. I expected the first sex scene to be more emotional and soft.
Especially when Jammin kicked Jake out of the room and the next morning they acted as if nothing happened between them, I don't think it's good. I hope there will be a conversation about tonight. That way Jammin and Jake's relationship can go one level further.
I thought that after sex Jasmine would put her head on Jake's shoulder and confess that she liked him and that they would cuddle and sleep together that night.:BootyTime:
And whatever that maid's dress is, I won't comment.:FacePalm:
The funny thing is that Jammin will probably be more jealous, active and aggressive with Jake from now on. God help V.
 
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i felt like the dev said: okay okay guys, i see you all dont like it, so now Maggie will step back with it.
but hey, its a good thing. they could have ignore everyone who dont like it, but no.
If this is the case with Maggie - I hope it will be the same with V flashing scene at the pool, it was soooo out of her character :(
 
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Veronica and Allison have the hottest lewd scenes by far, which I reckon is because MC has pre-established relations with both of them.

On a side note, does it even matter what lingerie you pick for Veronica in this scene? She always wears the red one during the hotel scene. Is it a bug or intended?
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Only time I did it, I chose the red set so didn't notice. Can try a speed run through to see if I get the same thing, later today.

Are you using the current Steam build to play?
 

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I mean, I don't get the whole "out of character" thing for Maggie scene, it was outright stated she's into tying her partner up in her masturbation scene. Honestly, I thought it was fairly unoffensive scene, but apparently it's too much for those dominant alpha males (bleh) that self-insert in thses.

Truth be told, by retconning her kink away, the dev removed the only thing Maggie had going for her, she's just not that interesting of a character (on her own or with her relationship with Jake) compared to Alison, Jasmine, and Alexa.

Just hope the dev doesn't take away Kris's femdom path, because we all know certain alpha's can't stand the fact that there's even an option to do it.
 
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If this scene was the 3rd or 4th sex scene between Jammin and Jake, I wouldn't criticize it. I expected the first sex scene to be more emotional and soft.
Especially when Jammin kicked Jake out of the room and the next morning they acted as if nothing happened between them, I don't think it's good. I hope there will be a conversation about tonight. That way Jammin and Jake's relationship can go one level further.
I thought that after sex Jasmine would put her head on Jake's shoulder and confess that she liked him and that they would cuddle and sleep together that night.:BootyTime:
And whatever that maid's dress is, I won't comment.:FacePalm:
The funny thing is that Jammin will probably be more jealous, active and aggressive with Jake from now on. God help V.
With Jammin I really feel like her more romance/emotional stuff will come later, she did seem to struggle a little when they kiss at the fundraiser event, It feels like her route Is more of a slow burn. She Is dating her teacher/boss/colleague, she may have some doubts before they go all in officially. She's totally worth It though!
 

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Only time I did it, I chose the red set so didn't notice. Can try a speed run through to see if I get the same thing, later today.

Are you using the current Steam build to play?
Yes I'm using the steam build. I did a speedrun to test it out and I only got her red outfit. Seems the dev forgot they let us choose her outfit.
 

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I mean, I don't get the whole "out of character" thing for Maggie scene, it was outright stated she's into tying her partner up in her masturbation scene. Honestly, I thought it was fairly unoffensive scene, but apparently it's too much for those dominant alpha males (bleh) that self-insert in thses.

Truth be told, by retconning her kink away, the dev removed the only thing Maggie had going for her, she's just not that interesting of a character (on her own or with her relationship with Jake) compared to Alison, Jasmine, and Alexa.

Just hope the dev doesn't take away Kris's femdom path, because we all know certain alpha's can't stand the fact that there's even an option to do it.
Some real pearls of wisdom there....

Not. :FacePalm:
 
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Yes I'm using the steam build. I did a speedrun to test it out and I only got her red outfit. Seems the dev forgot they let us choose her outfit.
You are right. There's a few issues I noticed, after un-RPA'ing the game.

In Episode 3 Scene 6, is where you pick the lingerie outfit for V. The Dev uses three variables to track the lingerie outfit MC selects. Why 3 variables instead of 1? I have no idea.
  • v3s6_lingerie_pick_1 - Sets true if you select the left lingerie set
  • lingerie_pick_2 - Sets true if you select the middle lingerie set / Why is the variable name so different?
  • lingerie_pick_3 - Sets true if you select the right lingerie set / Why is the variable name so different?
Python:
v "Which one of those three sets do you like the most?"
scene v3s6_8a_jake_talk with Dissolve(0.36)
j "Ummm… Well…"
#scene v3s6_6_lingerie_pick with Dissolve(0.36)
scene v3s6_6_lingerie_pick_base
call screen v3s6_lingerie_pick_buttons
screen v3s6_lingerie_pick_buttons:
    imagebutton:
    ... <snipped>
label v3s6_lingerie1:
    $ v3s6_lingerie_pick_1 = True
    ... <snipped>
    jump v3s6_lingerie
label v3s6_lingerie2:
    $ lingerie_pick_2 = True
    ... <snipped>
    jump v3s6_lingerie
label v3s6_lingerie3:
    $ lingerie_pick_3 = True
    ... <snipped>
    jump v3s6_lingerie
label v3s6_lingerie:
    scene v3s6_8c with Dissolve(0.36)
    j "This one."
It would have been simpler to set one variable(int), such as 'v3s6_lingerie_pick' and set the value to "1", "2", or "3" as appropriate.


Episode 3 Scene 11e is where you see the chosen outfit on V. There are two major issues here:
  • First, the game does not check, via any means, to see which lingerie variable of the three variables was chosen. It just uses the "right hand" lingerie.
  • Second, when I looked at the images, there appear to be no renders for the left or middle lingerie set in <images/episode 3/scene 11e> folder. So even if it did check to see what you picked, there's only the right hand set to display.
Python:
scene v3s11e_12b_jake_talk with Dissolve(0.36)
j "Well, you say that now, but it’s been my experience that bad times can really stress a relationship."
j "How can we be sure that doesn’t happen?"
scene v3s11e_12b with Dissolve(0.36)
v "Haven’t you been listening to me, [mc]? It’s obvious."
scene v3s11e_13 at pan_view with Dissolve(0.36)
v "You just need the right woman."
j "Holy mother of frosted flakes!"
scene v3s11e_14_veronica_talk with Dissolve(0.36)
v "You like it? I bought it for you."
Edit: fixed a missed note about the 3 variables not having consistent naming either. Two are missing "v3s6_" as the prefix
 
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I mean, I don't get the whole "out of character" thing for Maggie scene, it was outright stated she's into tying her partner up in her masturbation scene. Honestly, I thought it was fairly unoffensive scene, but apparently it's too much for those dominant alpha males (bleh) that self-insert in thses.

Truth be told, by retconning her kink away, the dev removed the only thing Maggie had going for her, she's just not that interesting of a character (on her own or with her relationship with Jake) compared to Alison, Jasmine, and Alexa.

Just hope the dev doesn't take away Kris's femdom path, because we all know certain alpha's can't stand the fact that there's even an option to do it.
You and I have very different understandings of Maggie's character. I didn't have a problem with the scene either, but a character who's not trying to dominate Jake is nice.

FYI "I wonder if he's ever been tied to the bed" is not an outright statement. It's a curiosity, albeit one that turned her on. An outright statement is "I like tying people to the bed."

Maggie is trying to be spontaneous, and when she saw Jake's dick, she remembered the handcuffs and went for it. The fact she tried something new is cool and interesting.

Her explanation (whether originally planned or retconned) made sense and the mystery surrounding her is just as interesting to me as the three you mentioned.

Although the three you mentioned are all controlling or bossy or trying to rule over Jake or never listening to a word he says. If that's you're type, I don't think Maggie is for you.
 

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You may want to go back and review the first few scenes of the game then. It's where they set up her backstory professionally and romantically.
it proves that she's a core component. Without the grant and thesis, you think the project would exist?
Exactly this. For someone like V, who supposedly didn't do anything important to help the MC, I'm seeing a lot of crucial help been given there to him. Meanwhile, the wonderful ex-bitch wouldn't waste a good fart on MC's battery project, had it not been for Lily's accident, which we can arguably blame it on her too, btw.

She was too busy being butthurt about the divorce and the way their marriage ended to pay attention to where her daughter was playing, a divorce for which we can arguably put a certain percentage of the blame on her too, depending on which path the player chooses to be on with her... just sayin'.

I know, I know... details... nobody gives a shit about them when they don't fit their narrative.:rolleyes:

What is it that make's her matter in the grand scheme of things?
Allie = Ex Wife. Directly involved with LIly's treatment.
Just the important fact that without the finances V helped him get and the good word she put for him to William there wouldn't be a project to begin with, but the same thing can be said about MC's ex too tho.:whistle: Except for paying her first share of money for the treatment, which is to be expected of her to do, since it's her daughter we talking about here and all, she too becomes irrelevant after that. Nothing she does, that other LIs can also do and bring to the table, can be considered anything even remotely 'substantial' to MC's project and the treatment, unless you consider her crying, blaming herself for what happened to Lily and yelling at that idiotic, insensitive doctor a plus, soo yeah... she isn't that much better than V on this front either.

On the other hand, there's Jasmine and Cooper, especially him, the two real and only other MVPs in this story... these two are the only two characters who're crucial to MC's success in this endeavor, IMO, and if we remove them from the equation, no one else can do what they do for him. Period.

expected the first sex scene to be more emotional and soft.
Especially when Jammin kicked Jake out of the room and the next morning they acted as if nothing happened between them, I don't think it's good. I hope there will be a conversation about tonight. That way Jammin and Jake's relationship can go one level further.
Lil Jammin does not look for any sappy romance BS at the moment and just wants a casual FWB relationship with a potentially rich, successful guy she has a few things in common with and is attracted to. Nothing more and nothing less than this. She wouldn't troll V for her absurd clinginess, if she did look for the same thing in her relationship with the MC, don't y'all think so ??
 

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Exactly this. For someone like V, who supposedly didn't do anything important to help the MC, I'm seeing a lot of crucial help been given there to him. Meanwhile, the wonderful ex-bitch wouldn't waste a good fart on MC's battery project, had it not been for Lily's accident, which we can arguably blame it on her too, btw.

She was too busy being butthurt about the divorce and the way their marriage ended to pay attention to where her daughter was playing, a divorce for which we can arguably put a certain percentage of the blame on her too, depending on which path the player chooses to be on with her... just sayin'.

I know, I know... details... nobody gives a shit about them when they don't fit their narrative.:rolleyes:




Just the important fact that without the finances V helped him get and the good word she put for him to William there wouldn't be a project to begin with, but the same thing can be said about MC's ex too tho.:whistle: Except for paying her first share of money for the treatment, which is to be expected of her to do, since it's her daughter we talking about here and all, she too becomes irrelevant after that. Nothing she does, that other LIs can also do and bring to the table, can be considered anything even remotely 'substantial' to MC's project and the treatment, unless you consider her crying, blaming herself for what happened to Lily and yelling at that idiotic, insensitive doctor a plus, soo yeah... she isn't that much better than V on this front either.

On the other hand, there's Jasmine and Cooper, especially him, the two real and only other MVPs in this story... these two are the only two characters who're crucial to MC's success in this endeavor, IMO, and if we remove them from the equation, no one else can do what they do for him. Period.



Lil Jammin does not look for any sappy romance BS at the moment and just wants a casual FWB relationship with a potentially rich, successful guy she has a few things in common with and is attracted to. Nothing more and nothing less than this. She wouldn't troll V for her absurd clinginess, if she did look for the same thing in her relationship with the MC, don't y'all think so ??
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Yep it's just points (and that Veronica cheating flag if on her route). Another minor disappointment for me. Was hoping Allie would get to flex and have a better outcome. Jasmine feels like objectively the worst choice to bring to the ball but she also does well so it's all moot. Not even gonna talk about Nat.
I agree that it's a disappointment. Since you can win and lose races costing the MC money, I was surprised that the investor ball and conference are meaningless other than to gain LI points. Obviously, a complete failure would ruin the Lily story, but perhaps degrees of success. From 'good' to 'smashing success', or some such rating system. At the very least it'd allow for a lot more flavoring later in the game to make you feel the impact of your decisions. Flavoring would minimize the branching overload, but at least make it feel like you are doing more than just collecting LI points.

Perhaps assigning 'proficiency' to the skills of each of the people involved.... without breaking the story, it'd at least allow for it to feel like it's impacting something.

Something like: 1) presentation; 2) technical expertise; and 3) sales ability... or something like that.

For example, at the conference:
  • V, as an English professor, should help get max points for your presentation, but less in the technical expertise and sales ability.
  • Jasmine would be an expert in the technical expertise, but more lacking in the presentation skill.
  • Allie would be very good with presentations and sales ability, but lacking technical expertise.
  • <and so on>
At the investor ball:
  • Allie has top presentation and sales ability for the investors, but very little technical expertise
  • Jasmine has the technical expertise and sale ability, but less in the presentation ability
  • <and so on>
 

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After watching all the argument about the importance of each characters in story, they are all useless.:LUL: My dear Delilah is definitely most important in the story.:BootyTime: NO ONE, NOT ANT BITCH CAN BEAT MY GIRL DELILAH.:cool:
 

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I thought it was fairly unoffensive scene, but apparently it's too much for those dominant alpha males (bleh) that self-insert in thses.
Just hope the dev doesn't take away Kris's femdom path, because we all know certain alpha's can't stand the fact that there's even an option to do it.
'Scuse us for not liking the same things and characters you do, but at the end of the day, it all comes down to tastes and preferences and just that, there's no self-insertion involved and no lame snarky comments on this topic needed.

We all have our own, there's no need to bitch about them, cuz we don't really give a shit. Try to understand that at least.

the dev removed the only thing Maggie had going for her, she's just not that interesting of a character
Again, that's your opinion, which you shouldn't generalize. I personally find her very interesting, not just bcz she's exactly the type of woman I'd go for IRL, nah, it's simply bcuz there's more to her than meets the eye, and I'm curious to find out what that is. Plus, she's soo sweet, smart and attractive, she's simply worth pursuing, even if it turns out she's just a 'generic' blonde with mommy issues.

With Jammin I really feel like her more romance/emotional stuff will come later, she did seem to struggle a little when they kiss at the fundraiser event, It feels like her route Is more of a slow burn.
Same here. She's definitely worth all the playful teasing and minor headaches so far, but from a believable story perspective, we shouldn't forget that her crush, Jake (MC), is still her boss AND college teacher.

Something like this is exactly the kinda delicate shit that can get him in trouble before he even reaches an ounce of financial success with the project they both worked so much and so hard for, so a slow-burn romantic progress with her is to be expected.

Perhaps assigning 'proficiency' to the skills of each of the people involved
If it's any help knowing this, ALL the girls on your list there proved to us more than once that they're very skilled when it comes to oral... presentation, ofc. The technical expertise part is another story.;)

My dear Delilah is definitely most important in the story.:BootyTime: NO ONE, NOT ANT BITCH CAN BEAT MY GIRL DELILAH.:cool:
Shit, I knew I forgot to mention someone there when giving props, but I'm with you on this. Reading some posts here, where users be talking smack about this and that character or praising them for being more or less important to the story, Lily's treatment and MC's project's success without even mentioning the OG best girl Delilah is simply disappointing.

If there's no Delilah, there's no money to be made from racing, and I don't know how else the MC could make enough money for another month of treatment for Lily until his project starts bringing some in... don't really wanna know how Cooper made all that money so fast, but it wouldn't be exactly shocking if we found out it wasn't done as smoothly as he claimed.
 

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Just the important fact that without the finances V helped him get and the good word she put for him to William there wouldn't be a project to begin with, but the same thing can be said about MC's ex too tho.:whistle: Except for paying her first share of money for the treatment, which is to be expected of her to do, since it's her daughter we talking about here and all, she too becomes irrelevant after that. Nothing she does, that other LIs can also do and bring to the table, can be considered anything even remotely 'substantial' to MC's project and the treatment, unless you consider her crying, blaming herself for what happened to Lily and yelling at that idiotic, insensitive doctor a plus, soo yeah... she isn't that much better than V on this front either.

On the other hand, there's Jasmine and Cooper, especially him, the two real and only other MVPs in this story... these two are the only two characters who're crucial to MC's success in this endeavor, IMO, and if we remove them from the equation, no one else can do what they do for him. Period.
This is the problem with responding to a little snippet of a post while ignoring the rest of the post. I acknowledged the fact that Veronica helped with the grant before the events of the story. Apart from that, she has no critical impact on any of the subplots of the broader story (Lily's recovery, Battery, Racing, Wyatt, Ian, etc). Her own subplot (FWB or GF) is set apart from everything else while all of the other subplots are beginning to relate to one another. IF and only if you are on Veronica's path does she become further involved with the Battery subplot, but she's literally plugged in to events that happen with or without her as an option for the conference.

All other LIs are still actively involved in the developing story whether or not you're romancing them and regardless of whether Jake chooses them for the ball or conference. Even on Allison's neutral and hate paths, she's still involved with Lily's recovery at the Wake Up Institute as well as the Wyatt situation. Jasmine is the most involved LI as she's critical to both the battery and racing plots regardless of whether Jake is on her romance path. Maggie is still critical to the Ian and Wyatt plots whether or not Jake initially agrees to help her or accepts her "happy ending". Natalya is still trying to get close to Jake for yet unknown reasons, joining his bridge course and rather stubbornly trying to get involved with the battery project regardless of whether Jake is fucking her.

Veronica is the only LI that is completely removed from the story by Chapter 2 if you're not persuing her path.

That's why I say Veronica is the least important character in the story. Sure she helped with the grant and while that's important, that involvement basically resolved before the events of the story. All of the other LIs are still independently involved in some way with the developing story. Veronica fucks off to Canada. We'll see what happens IF she ever comes back but through the story thus far, she's had almost no impact on the story except for helping with grant and for being Jake's fuck buddy. If the Dev wants to make Veronica relevant, I think he will need to re-integrate her into the story in some meaningful way that isn't contingent on her romance path. Otherwise, she can stay in Canada because she has no actual purpose in the story anymore.
 
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