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So is this not completed yet? It's not listed on Steam as Early Access...
the game is not completed, on steam it's not listed as EA because it will be sold in a seasonal way as many AVNs do. So Act1/Season1 is standalone on steam, and such considered as complete (even though the game is not)
 
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I'll pay occasionally on patreon when a game I like is updated. I'll buy a game on steam if it's the whole thing. But I'll never buy into the seasonal bs...
I don't mind Seasonal if it's a game I know I love just to show some support towards a dev as I already don't like pirating AVN's but I still do so. But usually I'll buy them on sale.
 
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Folks, I have such a question, is there a relationship path in the game with Alison's ex-wife that will bring them back together again in revenge and they kissed and did all that stuff or not yet?
Allison is a main LI so yes. Her path is just a giant slow burn where the devs milk out the resentment card and will likely keep doing so. They didn't really do a good job on him and he is still stuck in the same spot he always was. Considering they are planning 3 acts, then winning her back could just be epilogue thing only.

Sometimes it does feel like she doesn't even have a path and I did have to check the WT whether she is LI too.. so I understand the confusion of people regarding her LI status.
 
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Allison is a main LI so yes. Her path is just a giant slow burn where the devs milk out the resentment card and will likely keep doing so. They didn't really do a good job on him and he is still stuck in the same spot he always was. Considering they are planning 3 acts, then winning her back could just be epilogue thing only.

Sometimes it does feel like she doesn't even have a path and I did have to check the WT whether she is LI too.. so I understand the confusion of people regarding her LI status.
There's three "paths" with her (I always get the naming wrong): 1) Hate route; 2) reconciliatory route; and 3) neutral, neither 1 or 3. The hate and reconciliatory route have a number of unique scenes for each.

The hate one is pretty self-explanatory and pretty easy to get onto. It looks to have a fixed hard stop at a certain point the night you have dinner with her that is hard to miss. It's a route I've mostly skipped over as the path looks to have a hard end.

The reconciliatory route has a number of unique scenes or altered conversations. She can be invited to the initial investor party with conversations that are a bit different depending on how you want to handle her route. She can also be invited to the printer conference which has a number of unique scenes and conversations. She'll also invite you over to the house for dinner, and you can eat and spend time reminiscing with her, and even leave a nice note the next morning. There are several other more minor scenes such as conversations while driving her, offering to take her back home after meeting the Doctor, and more. Some are locked behind the relationship point thresholds and choices in earlier scenes.

If by not having a route, means no lewd scenes, then you are correct. You can peek at her masturbating in the shower at the conference.
 
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There's three "paths" with her (I always get the naming wrong): 1) Hate route; 2) reconciliatory route; and 3) neutral, neither 1 or 3. The hate and reconciliatory route have a number of unique scenes for each.

The hate one is pretty self-explanatory and pretty easy to get onto. It looks to have a fixed hard stop at a certain point the night you have dinner with her that is hard to miss. It's a route I've mostly skipped over as the path looks to have a hard end.

The reconciliatory route has a number of unique scenes or altered conversations. She can be invited to the initial investor party with conversations that are a bit different depending on how you want to handle her route. She can also be invited to the printer conference which has a number of unique scenes and conversations. She'll also invite you over to the house for dinner, and you can eat and spend time reminiscing with her, and even leave a nice note the next morning. There are several other more minor scenes such as conversations while driving her, offering to take her back home after meeting the Doctor, and more. Some are locked behind the relationship point thresholds and choices in earlier scenes.

If by not having a route, means no lewd scenes, then you are correct. You can peek at her masturbating in the shower at the conference.
I always choose the "good" route, and have a save for true reconciliation, but mostly (and truly) want the good relationship for co-parenting, and good karma, and while she is attractive, think that their relationship would never work out in the end.
 
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There's three "paths" with her (I always get the naming wrong): 1) Hate route; 2) reconciliatory route; and 3) neutral, neither 1 or 3. The hate and reconciliatory route have a number of unique scenes for each.

The hate one is pretty self-explanatory and pretty easy to get onto. It looks to have a fixed hard stop at a certain point the night you have dinner with her that is hard to miss. It's a route I've mostly skipped over as the path looks to have a hard end.

The reconciliatory route has a number of unique scenes or altered conversations. She can be invited to the initial investor party with conversations that are a bit different depending on how you want to handle her route. She can also be invited to the printer conference which has a number of unique scenes and conversations. She'll also invite you over to the house for dinner, and you can eat and spend time reminiscing with her, and even leave a nice note the next morning. There are several other more minor scenes such as conversations while driving her, offering to take her back home after meeting the Doctor, and more. Some are locked behind the relationship point thresholds and choices in earlier scenes.

If by not having a route, means no lewd scenes, then you are correct. You can peek at her masturbating in the shower at the conference.
That is not really what I mean. All these things you just named could just as easily be part of the "neutral" thing where the aim is to just be on normal terms with her so she allows the MC to see Lily and that's it. After all, it fits prefectly with the MC saying "I hope I'm not getting too close to her" and "I think she still hates me, I'll figure it out later".

Sure, they do share some very nice moments together, she even kisses him.. they hold hands and hug each other few times as well. Allison cooks for him, allows him to stay the night and then later at the conference you get to share bed with her. This is all great too see but it falls off when you realize that the MC doesn't acknowledge any progress being made and his mentality remains the same through the whole first act. He is just fine with things being as they are between them.

They did well with Allison and her character progress towards the MC but that is pretty much it. When it comes to the MC, everything he does is "for Lily" and his project, he doesn't go out of his way to do more for Allison and that is the problem here. Yes, I very well understand that this is a slow burn type of thing but you still need to establish that the MC holds romantic feelings towards her. It might be a tough battle, he might be really scared to do something and that is fine. Through all these interactions and scenes they share, step by step for him try doing more FOR HER, not just because of Lily but because he wants to try getting closer to Allison. Unfortunately the devs did the exact opposite and they've been riding the "she hates me" card like crazy.

In my mind, for a female character to be considered LI, you need to establish romantic interest between her and the MC and the game fails to do so through the whole first act. We know Allison still loves him and wasn't able to move on but how does the MC feel.. well the answer is "uninterested".

Obviously, she is LI choice but if you are a player that has no walkthrough and doesn't interact on forums and such, then it is IMO pretty fair to think she is not LI and doesn't have a romance route.
 
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That is not really what I mean. All these things you just named could just as easily be part of the "neutral" thing where the aim is to just be on normal terms with her so she allows the MC to see Lily and that's it. After all, it fits prefectly with the MC saying "I hope I'm not getting too close to her" and "I think she still hates me, I'll figure it out later".

Sure, they do share some very nice moments together, she even kisses him.. they hold hands and hug each other few times as well. Allison cooks for him, allows him to stay the night and then later at the conference you get to share bed with her. This is all great too see but it falls off when you realize that the MC doesn't acknowledge any progress being made and his mentality remains the same through the whole first act. He is just fine with things being as they are between them.

They did well with Allison and her character progress towards the MC but that is pretty much it. When it comes to the MC, everything he does is "for Lily" and his project, he doesn't go out of his way to do more for Allison and that is the problem here.
I think we had this discussion already but the MC doesnt dare to hope for more after everything which happend. Which is kiiiiinnnnnd of understandble, unlike us he doesnt get to read allisons thoughts or sees her mimics switching whenever shes enamored.

Starting to hope for a second chance for a woman who repeateadly tell you that there wont be a second chance (because she tries to convince herself of that) is kinda setting yourself up for failure and heartbreak.

Thats the difference to the other LI's where Jake is sure of their affection for him, with Allie he doesnt know if he gets the chance ever again.

I dislike inner monologues from mcs gushing over LI's stronlgy anways but here for example its possible to state Jake's intentions about allison (towards V tho which obviously makes it a toned down version):

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I think we had this discussion already but the MC doesnt dare to hope for more after everything which happend. Which is kiiiiinnnnnd of understandble, unlike us he doesnt get to read allisons thoughts or sees her mimics switching whenever shes enamored.

Starting to hope for a second chance for a woman who repeateadly tell you that there wont be a second chance (because she tries to convince herself of that) is kinda setting yourself up for failure and heartbreak.

Thats the difference to the other LI's where Jake is sure of their affection for him, with Allie he doesnt know if he gets the chance ever again.

I dislike inner monologues from mcs gushing over LI's stronlgy anways but here for example its possible to state Jake's intentions about allison (towards V tho which obviously makes it a toned down version):

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If you do Allie path without V involved, you as a player don't get to know this though. It is a very important information that shows he still has feelings for her but again, without being on V's path too.. you just don't know because the game doesn't bother telling you this on solo Allison playthough.

I honestly don't remember, maybe we did have this discussion. I still think that the MC isn't dumb and unaware, I would say that it is the opposite. There is so many hints from Allison from the interactions they had that directly tell she doesn't hate him anymore.

If a woman that I believe hates my guts cooks for me and kisses me, then I question whether she really does still hate me the very next day. They hug, hold hands.. sleep in one bed..all these interaction scream that she doesn't hate him anymore yet he still thinks she does.

I was just trying to explain how some people can think she is not LI, that is all. If the devs wanna ride the resentment arc for all 3 acts and have them reuinite in epilogue then it is what it is.

It is just shame because her path already started from major disadvantage and it barely moves. I can be boyfriend to V, date Maggie, fuck around with Jammin.. and when it comes to Allison.. its "she hates me I guess, its fine.. Ill find out more later".. just meh which to me, after 3 episodes.. around 12k renders? is just tragic.
 
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If you do Allie path without V involved, you as a player don't get to know this though. It is a very important information that shows he still has feelings for her but again, without being on V's path too.. you just don't know because the game doesn't bother telling you this on solo Allison playthough.

I honestly don't remember, maybe we did have this discussion. I still think that the MC isn't dumb and unaware, I would say that it is the opposite. There is so many hints from Allison from the interactions they had that directly tell she doesn't hate him anymore.

If a woman that I believe hates my guts cooks for me and kisses me, then I question whether she really does still hate me the very next day. They hug, hold hands.. sleep in one bed..all these interaction scream that she doesn't hate him anymore yet he still thinks she does.

I was just trying to explain how some people can think she is not LI, that is all. If the devs wanna ride the resentment arc for all 3 acts and have them reuinite in epilogue then it is what it is.

It is just shame because her path already started from major disadvantage and it barely moves. I can be boyfriend to V, date Maggie, fuck around with Jammin.. and when it comes to Allison.. its "she hates me I guess, its fine.. Ill find out more later".. just meh which to me, after 3 episodes.. around 12k renders? is just tragic.
I mean he does aknowledge that things are getting better between them and everyone around them does it too. You can literally see Cooper and Wife smirk when they ask how things get along and Jake replies something very broad lol

But its different with him and allie compared to the other LI's, theres a different weight on the whole thing.

There is no dating, getting a girlfriend, getting to know each other over time and always kinda having a possibility to back out for both partners.

Here it is about getting back together in a serious way again, recreating the family.

And yeah Jake is aware that Allison is warming up to him again or rather stopping to try to hate him but the problem was never that she didnt loved him. She divorced him because of what happend despite her love for him.

Even if they had sex or jake would be 100% aware that shes still in love with him, it could still mean that she doesnt forgive him and doesnt take him back. She has to let him in a bit more for him to be able to make a move / have hope, the dinner was the first step as something she did for him rather unrelated to lily.

And out of the story: I think one more reason is that the other LI's still give the player the possibility to fool around, MC is not exclusive with Maggie, Jasmine or Natalya and V has the cuckquean kink which enables the player to kinda fuck around to some degrees.

This wouldnt really be possible, going back to allison and lily immediately equals being exclusive

And any other choices (aka Jake cheating on Allie AGAIN lol) should lead to a bad end at least with the mc's family anway :ROFLMAO:

BUT i agree that it should start to become more serious soon and could have happened during the trip already.
 
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