VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.04.5] [Underground Studio]

[Not_1705]

Sorry am I blind or are episode 2 and 3 not on here?
ep two came out end 2023 end three came out may 2024.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Sorry am I blind or are episode 2 and 3 not on here?
ep two came out end 2023 end three came out may 2024.

Episode 1,2 & 3 are all in Act 1.

 

[mike12013]

My advice for people moaning about the length it takes to update this VN, or other VNs.

Try make your own. That isn't me being dismissive or the typical "if you don't like it, do it yourself response", I'm being genuine. I created a project on the 20th June. I have approx 200 renders done (and 600 that were scrapped admittedly), 8000 lines of code spanning across one complete episode and three WIP/framework episodes. Blue is where I'm rendered to.

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Sure, you could have updates that have that have crappy lighting, noisy images and generic poses alongside a meh story, and have them every two months, or you can have (for my reckoning) the best looking VN with a great story and great, deep characters that takes time.

The moment you try to do this yourself, you realise just how much work goes into them. All of a sudden, complaints about time don't seem that important.

 

[Krytax123]

My advice for people moaning about the length it takes to update this VN, or other VNs.

Try make your own. That isn't me being dismissive or the typical "if you don't like it, do it yourself response", I'm being genuine. I created a project on the 20th June. I have approx 200 renders done (and 600 that were scrapped admittedly), 8000 lines of code spanning across one complete episode and three WIP/framework episodes. Blue is where I'm rendered to.

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Sure, you could have updates that have that have crappy lighting, noisy images and generic poses alongside a meh story, and have them every two months, or you can have (for my reckoning) the best looking VN with a great story and great, deep characters that takes time.

The moment you try to do this yourself, you realise just how much work goes into them. All of a sudden, complaints about time don't seem that important.

I would already be happy if devs scrap any kind "bonus content" considering how slow development of avns is in general. No dumb minigames, no dumb extra lewds like here, none of this shit.

Just focus on the avn.

 

[FRVN]

No dumb minigames, no dumb extra lewds like here, none of this shit.

Just focus on the avn.

Those are focusing on the AVN. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't an important part of the game.

 

[mike12013]

I would already be happy if devs scrap any kind "bonus content" considering how slow development of avns is in general. No dumb minigames, no dumb extra lewds like here, none of this shit.

Just focus on the avn.

If their brain works like mine does, that sort of stuff will be done while the PC(s) are rendering, so downtime effectively.

I don't disagree on the minigame stuff, personally, its not for me, I turn it off wherever possible, some stuff like texting on the phone helps progress the story, but involves a lot of code and can be extremely time consuming and difficult to set up.

 

[Krytax123]

Those are focusing on the AVN. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't an important part of the game.

I get that you (and maybe even a majority) like them but bonus non-canon lewd scenes are in no way a important part of the game.

This avn has no useless minigames, the racing and car upgrade is a part of the story, i wasnt talking about that.

 

[Meabe37]

Those are focusing on the AVN. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't an important part of the game.

How a sex scenes who are non-canon and outside of the game are important part of the game? It's just wasting time. And why the not put those scenes in the game in the first place anyway? You just wasting a lewd scene that could have been in the game. Is there even people who really care about them? Lewds without story are kinda meaningless and empty imo.

 

[El_Magnifico]

How a sex scenes who are non-canon and outside of the game are important part of the game? It's just wasting time. And why the not put those scenes in the game in the first place anyway?

Because they can have the pledges voting for it, that's one advantage to give and it's keeping the community active.

 

[Dessolos]

How a sex scenes who are non-canon and outside of the game are important part of the game? It's just wasting time. And why the not put those scenes in the game in the first place anyway? You just wasting a lewd scene that could have been in the game. Is there even people who really care about them? Lewds without story are kinda meaningless and empty imo.

I kind of like them tbh cause I don't like lewds for the sake of having lewds as part of the main story. But it's nice alternative instead of having a lewd scene that comes out of nowhere or feels very forced. That said I don't want alot of time spent on them either but if the dev has some downtimes especially since there is 2 devs for this project why not make them if they enjoy them. I don't see a reason why not if there is actually some downtime or they don't take too much extra time

 

[Krytax123]

How a sex scenes who are non-canon and outside of the game are important part of the game? It's just wasting time. And why the not put those scenes in the game in the first place anyway? You just wasting a lewd scene that could have been in the game. Is there even people who really care about them? Lewds without story are kinda meaningless and empty imo.

Im wondering that myself too but apparently there are a lot of people here who like them, i got lots of offended replies in the past for similar statements like yours lol

Its seems to be different between avns tho, the dev from LEAVING DNA did a survey with his patreons and nobody (like only 15% of the people) was even reading these bonus contents lewds and he stopped doing them because of that reason and the timewaste.

If their brain works like mine does, that sort of stuff will be done while the PC(s) are rendering, so downtime effectively.

I don't disagree on the minigame stuff, personally, its not for me, I turn it off wherever possible, some stuff like texting on the phone helps progress the story, but involves a lot of code and can be extremely time consuming and difficult to set up.

Thats the intetion but it doesnt work out like that. Just compare for example the render and animation amount in this avn from the bonus scenes with the actual content. Its a lot and way too much (imo). The dev stated somewhere that it takes them about three weeks of time and i would bet like 1000$ that that was a very well-meaning assesment of time lol

 

[Meabe37]

Because they can have the pledges voting for it, that's one advantage to give and it's keeping the community active.

They could vote for a in game canon lewd scene too? It would be the same... or well even a bigger insensitive to pledge and it wouldn't be useless.

I don't like lewds for the sake of having lewds as part of the main story.

It doesn't have to be? It's not a viable argument to me.

Also at the same time i would argue that none of the lewds atm are really mandatory to the story... you could remove them all and it would be the same honestly. The main story isn't build around sex.

 

[Dessolos]

It doesn't have to be? It's not a viable argument to me.

Also at the same time i would argue that none of the lewds atm are really mandatory to the story... you could remove them all and it would be the same honestly. The main story isn't build around sex.

I mean true I was more speaking in general terms and when I said " I don't like lewds for the sake of having lewds as part of the main story. " Cause alot of AVN's do this especially with side girls.

But id honestly argue only Maggie's Lewd's so far are the only important one as it feels like it's part of her character growth. I do wish it was reversed tho and she had that conversation on beach before the massage table lewd. Maybe the Kris and Alexa one too not sure I heard that one brings alot of character deveolopment to Alexa not sure as I didn't play that path yet as I don't like Alexa or threesomes. But this thread convinced me to play it next time I do play the game

 

[jadepaladin]

I mean true I was more speaking in general terms and when I said " I don't like lewds for the sake of having lewds as part of the main story. " Cause alot of AVN's do this especially with side girls.

But id honestly argue only Maggie's Lewd's so far are the only important one as it feels like it's part of her character growth. I do wish it was reversed tho and she had that conversation on beach before the massage table lewd. Maybe the Kris and Alexa one too not sure I heard that one brings alot of character deveolopment to Alexa not sure as I didn't play that path yet as I don't like Alexa or threesomes. But this thread convinced me to play it next time I do play the game

I don't know if I'd call it development, you just learn there's more to Alexa than her libido.

I agree that despite the massage table scene being cringe imo, it does feel story relevant in Maggie's case. Though Maebe specifically said "main story" and in that case he's right since Maggie has basically no impact on the main story yet.

 

[RedWyne007]

I understand its dev's decision but i wonder how much time the racing animations adds up to the development time

 

[MiltonPowers]

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A lot has been happening in our industry lately, and for those who haven’t heard yet, Joshua has prepared a post with information and a summary of recent events. This is not a development update – that’s coming soon – but we’ve been concerned about this topic recently, and we believe those who follow us and other AVN creators should be aware of it.

Well, it’s been an interesting couple of weeks.

The big news in the AVN world is that Steam and Itch.io have decided to delist some games due to the work of a fringe group of about a thousand people.

As a result, some games were removed from Steam, but ALL adult games were removed from Itch.

Itch has said that the pressure has come from Stripe. Whether this is through Mastercard and Visa or directly, we have no idea. Itch released

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Stripe Update For those who aren’t aware, Stripe is one of the payment processors we’ve used since our early days. They have provided the “Pay with card” option on our checkout page for over 10 years. We spoke with Stripe yesterday about their content policies. They confirmed that they will not be able to support adult content that fits the following definition: “content designed for sexual gratification.” Stripe asked us to pass along the following message to our users: Stripe is currently unable to support sexually explicit content due to restrictions placed on them by their banking partners, despite card networks generally supporting adult content (with the appropriate registrations). Stripe has indicated that they hope to be able to support adult content in the future.

Mastercard recently responded to the calls inundated their lines about this issue with

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“Mastercard has not evaluated any game or required restrictions of any activity on game creator sites and platforms, contrary to media reports and allegations,” the company wrote in a statement published on its website on August 1. “Our payment network follows standards based on the rule of law. Put simply, we allow all lawful purchases on our network. At the same time, we require merchants to have appropriate controls to ensure Mastercard cards cannot be used for unlawful purchases, including illegal adult content.”

In the same article, Valve (Steam) responded with this:

“Mastercard did not communicate with Valve directly, despite our request to do so,” Valve’s statement sent over email to Kotaku reads. “Mastercard communicated with payment processors and their acquiring banks. Payment processors communicated this with Valve, and we replied by outlining Steam’s policy since 2018 of attempting to distribute games that are legal for distribution. Payment processors rejected this, and specifically cited Mastercard’s Rule 5.12.7 and risk to the Mastercard brand.”
Rule 5.12.7 states, “A Merchant must not submit to its Acquirer, and a Customer must not submit to the Interchange System, any Transaction that is illegal, or in the sole discretion of the Corporation, may damage the goodwill of the Corporation or reflect negatively on the Marks.”
It goes on, “The sale of a product or service, including an image, which is patently offensive and lacks serious artistic value (such as, by way of example and not limitation, images of nonconsensual sexual behavior, sexual exploitation of a minor, nonconsensual mutilation of a person or body part, and bestiality), or any other material that the Corporation deems unacceptable to sell in connection with a Mark.”

I’ve bolded the bit above, because that is the most concerning part for our game, and for AVNs in general.

Here’s the list of banned content from Itch’s

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We are unable to support the sale of any works containing these topics:

• Non-consensual content (real or implied)
• Underage or “barely legal” themes
• Incest or pseudo-incest content
• Bestiality or animal-related
• Rape, coercion, or force-related
• Sex trafficking implications
• Revenge porn / voyeur / hidden cam
• Fetish involving bodily waste or extreme harm (e.g., “scat,” “vomit”)

Now, looking at that list, Race of Life seems unlikely to fall afoul of any of the restrictions. The youngest love interests are all in their 20s, no one is related to the MC, everything is consensual, and no one is fetishizing any toilet movements. There are a few poop jokes, but there’s nothing sexual about it.

And the thing is, none of those topics are ever going to be in Race of Life. Even if they were, I couldn’t write them with any sort of enthusiasm. It’s just not my thing.

So with that in mind, it’d be easy for us to think: “Well, sucks to be them, but we’re fine.”

But the thing is, once a group like this gets a win, they get publicity. They get to take a moral high ground. They get on TV, podcasts, guest spots on blogs. And with that comes authority. Influence. But most of all, money in appearance fees, donations, speaking engagements. That’s where a lot of groups, no matter how well intended, start to become a self-licking ice cream.

So, assuming all content that doesn’t comply with the list above is deleted from Steam, Itch, GoG, Subscribestar, etc. the group pushing for the censorship can either pat themselves on the back and claim the job is done, and go their own separate ways, or, they look to keep the ball rolling and push back further against what they perceive as immoral and unacceptable.

And that’s where things get slippery.

Because for whatever reason, some people really dislike any depiction of sex being made available, but violence is acceptable.

Take Grand Theft Auto. A few of the ‘moral majority’ got up in arms when players could beat up prostitutes to get their fee back. The funny part is that there wasn’t any objection to beating up homeless people or going nuts in a fast food place and hammering randoms with anything from a bat to a rocket launcher, but as soon as sex comes into the equation, it’s a collective clutching of pearls and outrage.

So while we expect that Race of Life won’t be affected very much directly by this movement now, it’s entirely possible that the day will come that a broader definition of what is unacceptable will be put to people who control payment or list games in their storefront, and it’ll be more restrictive. We still may be OK, until another tightening. Then another. Before long, developers are cut off from revenue streams, and the sector dies… except those catering to niche extremes that can continue with direct commissions, which were the ones targeted in the first place anyway.

So to wrap this up, none of the content they’re opposing would affect what I personally enjoy as a writer or as a player, but, it’s a dangerous precedent to have where a small group of a thousand people in Australia can decide what’s morally acceptable for billions of people, and what isn’t.

So if you’re one of the people calling up or emailing the payment providers, or even just highlighting it online, thanks for what you do.

The AVN market allows some incredible creativity from people who would otherwise be unable to find an audience for that expression. There are some amazing original stories and characters from across the industry, at a time when mainstream entertainment is just endless rehashing of the same plots and twists.

It’d be a shame to see it limited to a smaller and smaller list of ‘acceptable’ themes.

 

[shenlao]

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A lot has been happening in our industry lately, and for those who haven’t heard yet, Joshua has prepared a post with information and a summary of recent events. This is not a development update – that’s coming soon – but we’ve been concerned about this topic recently, and we believe those who follow us and other AVN creators should be aware of it.

Well, it’s been an interesting couple of weeks.

The big news in the AVN world is that Steam and Itch.io have decided to delist some games due to the work of a fringe group of about a thousand people.

As a result, some games were removed from Steam, but ALL adult games were removed from Itch.

Itch has said that the pressure has come from Stripe. Whether this is through Mastercard and Visa or directly, we have no idea. Itch released

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:



Mastercard recently responded to the calls inundated their lines about this issue with

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:



In the same article, Valve (Steam) responded with this:


I’ve bolded the bit above, because that is the most concerning part for our game, and for AVNs in general.

Here’s the list of banned content from Itch’s

You must be registered to see the links

:

We are unable to support the sale of any works containing these topics:

• Non-consensual content (real or implied)
• Underage or “barely legal” themes
• Incest or pseudo-incest content
• Bestiality or animal-related
• Rape, coercion, or force-related
• Sex trafficking implications
• Revenge porn / voyeur / hidden cam
• Fetish involving bodily waste or extreme harm (e.g., “scat,” “vomit”)

Now, looking at that list, Race of Life seems unlikely to fall afoul of any of the restrictions. The youngest love interests are all in their 20s, no one is related to the MC, everything is consensual, and no one is fetishizing any toilet movements. There are a few poop jokes, but there’s nothing sexual about it.

And the thing is, none of those topics are ever going to be in Race of Life. Even if they were, I couldn’t write them with any sort of enthusiasm. It’s just not my thing.

So with that in mind, it’d be easy for us to think: “Well, sucks to be them, but we’re fine.”

But the thing is, once a group like this gets a win, they get publicity. They get to take a moral high ground. They get on TV, podcasts, guest spots on blogs. And with that comes authority. Influence. But most of all, money in appearance fees, donations, speaking engagements. That’s where a lot of groups, no matter how well intended, start to become a self-licking ice cream.

So, assuming all content that doesn’t comply with the list above is deleted from Steam, Itch, GoG, Subscribestar, etc. the group pushing for the censorship can either pat themselves on the back and claim the job is done, and go their own separate ways, or, they look to keep the ball rolling and push back further against what they perceive as immoral and unacceptable.

And that’s where things get slippery.

Because for whatever reason, some people really dislike any depiction of sex being made available, but violence is acceptable.

Take Grand Theft Auto. A few of the ‘moral majority’ got up in arms when players could beat up prostitutes to get their fee back. The funny part is that there wasn’t any objection to beating up homeless people or going nuts in a fast food place and hammering randoms with anything from a bat to a rocket launcher, but as soon as sex comes into the equation, it’s a collective clutching of pearls and outrage.

So while we expect that Race of Life won’t be affected very much directly by this movement now, it’s entirely possible that the day will come that a broader definition of what is unacceptable will be put to people who control payment or list games in their storefront, and it’ll be more restrictive. We still may be OK, until another tightening. Then another. Before long, developers are cut off from revenue streams, and the sector dies… except those catering to niche extremes that can continue with direct commissions, which were the ones targeted in the first place anyway.

So to wrap this up, none of the content they’re opposing would affect what I personally enjoy as a writer or as a player, but, it’s a dangerous precedent to have where a small group of a thousand people in Australia can decide what’s morally acceptable for billions of people, and what isn’t.

So if you’re one of the people calling up or emailing the payment providers, or even just highlighting it online, thanks for what you do.

The AVN market allows some incredible creativity from people who would otherwise be unable to find an audience for that expression. There are some amazing original stories and characters from across the industry, at a time when mainstream entertainment is just endless rehashing of the same plots and twists.

It’d be a shame to see it limited to a smaller and smaller list of ‘acceptable’ themes.

Woah, those "small group of people" are retarded at best. They should be banned for using internet instead imply their morale standard on games. I pity them for having smoll PP.

 

[Animesh00]

Is there an Android port of the latest update?

 

[Garen]

Woah, those "small group of people" are retarded at best. They should be banned for using internet instead imply their morale standard on games. I pity them for having smoll PP.

It's not even a moral standard thing.

People who do this sort of moralfagging are often the actual sexual predators. These people genuinely do not differentiate between fiction and reality so they think everyone around them is as degenerate as they are irl so they panic and overextend with the pearl clutching.

 

[shenlao]

It's not even a moral standard thing.

People who do this sort of moralfagging are often the actual sexual predators. These people genuinely do not differentiate between fiction and reality so they think everyone around them is as degenerate as they are irl so they panic and overextend with the pearl clutching.

cannot agree more. I mean, its called "Adult Visual Novel" for reason, and they keep tag clear on platform such as steam. which it will not accessible for those who avoid "NSFW" topic. Yet the audacity to "ban" tagged content means they just have hidden agendas.