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JBooze

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That is all of course...just your opinion. As for BB, one is written by a hollywood professional scirpt writer....this is not. However, if you wish to prove your point, please get all these 'writers that will agree with you' that you speak of to chime in ;)
I think you are completely missing my point here, I am not comparing bb with this story, all im saying is we dont remember the chemistry in that series, rather, the characters themselves, their lives, their interactions, etc.

As for the writers part, im not saying that i have a litter of writers in my backpocket, rather that a big majority of writers will agree that over excruciating amount of exposition on technical aspects in your story is a turn off for readers and is detrimental when it comes to pacing in a story.

And absolutely YES, it is all just my opinion. I forgot to write that sentence at the end. But considering i did mention by the end that is was, my review. I guess i might have overestimated some people's ability to come to the conclusion that reviews are usually people's opinion. I will keep that in mind next time when i write a review.
 

Maviarab

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rather that a big majority of writers will agree that over excruciating amount of exposition on technical aspects in your story is a turn off for readers and is detrimental when it comes to pacing in a story.
Again, opinion. Who are these so called writers exactly? Are they professional? Published? You think comparing to an AVN is fair? Were you expecting Cambridge thesis quality? Maybe enough quality that undergroundstudio gets picked up by HBO? The writing is no worse than in any graphic novel, a very similar medium.

Stop stating what 'everyone would say/agree' when you cannot possibly back up your statement,.
 

JBooze

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Again, opinion. Who are these so called writers exactly? Are they professional? Published? You think comparing to an AVN is fair? Were you expecting Cambridge thesis quality? Maybe enough quality that undergroundstudio gets picked up by HBO? The writing is no worse than in any graphic novel, a very similar medium.

Stop stating what 'everyone would say/think when you cannot possibly back up your statement,.
I dont understand why you are acting so dense and not understanding my larger point instead of making a stupid "oh you like books? Name every book" argument as if it's a gotcha. There is an entire page about what the term exposition is and it's correct usage in writing on the jericho writers website( a website run by writers ) and you will completely understand the point im making.

If you are someone who is a fan of the game and cannot have any constructive criticisms against it, I'm not your enemy lol because i do like alot of the aspects of this game. It just has a few issues, which when dealt with might make this one of the best games on this platform (in my opinion of course).

If you are going to keep doubling down on this stupid fixation of yours of "name every writer", im just going to ignore you after this.
 

jadepaladin

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Idk, the technical jargon didn't really bother me. I just compared it to GRRM's description of food in A Song of Ice and Fire. Who knows, maybe this "overly explained technical jargon" will become something this writer is known for in time.
I don't think BB was the greatest comparison either, because we're talking about different mediums. A television show can get away with things like montages much easier than an AVN can. If you used another AVN as an example of something similar done better, I'd probably understand your point more. Currently, it just looks like you're over explaining why you don't like things overly explained, which is kinda funny and ironic.

As for the "lot of writers that would agree with me..." they don't seem to be here.
 

JBooze

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Idk, the technical jargon didn't really bother me. I just compared it to GRRM's description of food in A Song of Ice and Fire. Who knows, maybe this "overly explained technical jargon" will become something this writer is known for in time.
I don't think BB was the greatest comparison either, because we're talking about different mediums. A television show can get away with things like montages much easier than an AVN can. If you used another AVN as an example of something similar done better, I'd probably understand your point more. Currently, it just looks like you're over explaining why you don't like things overly explained, which is kinda funny and ironic.

As for the "lot of writers that would agree with me..." they don't seem to be here.
Thanks for responding properly instead of going hostile immediately like the previous responder. With the exposition dumps not bothering you, I guess it is an understandable position to take considering your experience with GRRM. But the issue with me personally was the length of certain conversations, whether it be with Cooper, the male/female docs, and Jasmine in the lab. It went on for too long to a point where, given I was able to understand the terms, it felt pretty corny. My experience with lore dumps is from Expanse books, which I read after the series. Corey's books have exposition dumps, but they're in quick bursts and leave without lingering, not giving you a bad aftertaste. By the end of each book, you can piece together the MacGuffin lore without completely being overwhelmed by its presence in every dialogue. But again, I'm certainly not making a comparison of this AVN with Corey's novels because that's ridiculous.

The reason why I can't compare this to some other AVN here is because this one is unique here in its own way. The writer certainly is intelligent, and there are some really good dialogues between MC and the ex-wife, which felt natural and very non-AVN writing to me. Also, the renders of the characters show that the dev genuinely put thought into those scenes; the dialogue of resentment in Allison's face and them just not hooking up just after exchanging good words signifies the dev put at least some thought into their arc, even if it's an avn. Hence why I even made the original review, because it was different than anything I've played here. A few fixes in the story, in my opinion, would really make this game one of the best here.

Now about the writer statement, I explained what I actually meant to the other person before in one of my replies; I guess I should have worded it better considering it got quoted twice. I'll keep that in mind.
 

Malicre

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The best parts of this game are, of course, the Cooper-Mc banter (not the ridiculous car talks), the races and talks with those characters, Maggie's life story, and the very interesting dynamic with your ex-wife. I hope in the future chapters the focus on technicalities is shifted towards the story and characters themselves and their interactions with each other because that's all the reader at the end of the day cares about, the human element.
Agreed and these are pretty much the only reason why i still play it. If it wasn't for maggie being an LI, the daughter/hospital plot and the bro character this would be a 2/5 game for me.

Maggie was really the only LI i was interested in.
 

Malicre

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Team Maggie all the way.
The only bad thing with Maggie's route is i think they are setting it up so it was her dog that caused the whole incident with his daughter. Remember them talking about the dog smelling his dog on her? And that's gonna SUCK if that's the case.
 

Ray_D

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I'm sorry if it's been discussed here before, but I'm wondering something. Because of the incompatible saves I'm playing this from the beginning and I noticed something that got me curious. Is Jasmine perhaps actual street race driver? I remember she attend some racing events but don't remember her competing in them (Maybe I'm just idiot). In this shot that girl, all geared up really look like jasmine though.
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It seems that the developer reused the jasmine model for a background character. :unsure:
 

MiltonPowers

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The only bad thing with Maggie's route is i think they are setting it up so it was her dog that caused the whole incident with his daughter. Remember them talking about the dog smelling his dog on her? And that's gonna SUCK if that's the case.
I don't remember that. I haven't played the update yet (I've got a backlog of updates to play, and as a Maggie fan, I know I have something to look forward too, so happy to enjoy the buildup). I'll do a quick playthrough before starting the new updates. But if you're right, that's gunna be awful.
 

Gicoo

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Dudeee, why this game didn't have harem
Developer is going for grounded and - relatively - realistic main character. At best he is a racing champ and builds a great invention. Else, he is a normal guy, handling his job, child and dating life. Dating several people at once is relatively unrealistic. You can only pull this of if you are famous, wealthy and charismatic. Most of the love interests want a normal partner and a normal relationship, not some manslut they have to share. If MC starts fucking everyone, they will leave him.
 

NebulousShooter

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Man I feel really bad for V, her content is awesome but because at the start of the game she played the 'forced girlfriend' role most players will remember her as 'the crazy chick that wants to prevent me from playing the game'...

Everything about her route would be 10/10 if this was the middle of the relationship of the player pursuing her, it might be for the MC, but its not for the player unfortunately. The MC might be in love with her if he really thinks about it, but the player isn't, the player barely knows her when he is asked to make commitments.

The flexy yoga moves, the jiggly ass, the exhibitionisms, none of it will be able to make up for the audience's first impressions :cry:
 

NebulousShooter

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Race of Life stays undefeated ever singe I played it in 0.1, every single sexy scene was fire this update, a main plot that actually seems to be moving, relationships progressing. I still know nothing and don't care about the cars lingo, I would actually skip it if it wasn't cleverly intertwined with banter. GG


The only way from here is downhill :Kappa: :Kappa:
 
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Race of Life stays undefeated ever singe I played it in 0.1, every single sexy scene was fire this update, a main plot that actually seems to be moving, relationships progressing. I still know nothing and don't care about the cars lingo, I would actually skip it if it wasn't cleverly intertwined with banter. GG


The only way from here is downhill :Kappa: :Kappa:
Here's a plot hole for you. If Allison has the custody of Lily and she works as a VP of R&D department in a pharmaceutical company, then why is not her insurance cover Lily's treatment? I am not talking about Wake up Institute but the hospital thing. :unsure:
 

Elduriel

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Here's a plot hole for you. If Allison has the custody of Lily and she works as a VP of R&D department in a pharmaceutical company, then why is not her insurance cover Lily's treatment? I am not talking about Wake up Institute but the hospital thing. :unsure:
had the same thought but another angle... in that kind of role she would have way more money than 8k saved. Not mentioning the company stock options she would have.
 
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