Bryan_Colt

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here i was escaping in a fantasy with sexy girls plus racing and then here comes veronica i am jelly and i am going to remind you how a woman screws up the life of a man all she needs to spew out her mouth did you pay your bills did you throw the trash did you remember to hose the garden... and i am going to delete the game.


if i have to make a choice i would rather get back with the wife before i do anything more with veronica.
 
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here i was escaping in a fantasy with sexy girls plus racing and then here comes veronica i am jelly and i am going to remind you how a woman screws up the life of a man all she needs to spew out her mouth did you pay your bills did you throw the trash did you remember to hose the garden... and i am going to delete the game.


if i have to make a choice i would rather get back with the wife before i do anything more with veronica.
no need delete the game. you can get rid of veronica viktoria. you can have fun with the game :)
 

Bryan_Colt

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i was semi sort of joking i am not deleting anything but i am tired of real life creeping into gaming and more people seem to support

that shit which raises my rage to unlimited, i am a harem kind of dude i do not care i want them all if i am to pay for anything in this life

i would pay for fantasy, and i hate choices in any game and that is why i use mods to remove choices.
 

Bryan_Colt

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I hope the mc can afford to get his daughter her own room when she is going to get better and try not to let her out of his sight lazy

bum.
 

xXwankerXx

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It's definitely funny to watch and I love to push the "Fight back!" button during arguments.
it's a fucking nightmare to live through it, unless you are as emotionally unstable as her.
We can find at least 100 good reasons to hate Allison and believe those two getting back together after everything that's happened between them is complete nonsense storywise that can only work out by using porn 'logic', but after all the complaining about the MC and ALL the Veronica trolling, I find it very disappointing that almost nobody is afraid some lunatic like Wyatt will try to do something to Delilah out of spite and to sabotage the MC's so far too-smooth progress in his endeavor to make money for his daughter's treatment and become someone in the scientific community.

I think Delilah's almost-abusive everyday use in a mostly street racing game, where she's playing a crucial part in MC's winning streak, should be illegal, ffs.:eek: Dude drives her everywhere, even when going grocery shopping and picking up his daughter from school, when he should go get himself a shitty car he can afford to abuse for that kinda day-to-day use.

Fuck Allison and her nagging ass, she can get run over by a damn truck or a tank AFTER Lily wakes up from her coma, and I wouldn't give a shit, tho I'd prolly drink some champagne to celebrate it:KEK:, BUT Delilah needs to be treated more carefully, with more respect and more love, like the mechanical boss bitch she is, not a glorified GTA pickup truck.:cautious: If Allison can't understand the simple fact that Delilah's the most important and helpful girl in MC's life after his daughter, she's welcome to go fuck off right back on the streets where she belongs.

It's definitely funny to watch and I love to push the "Fight back!" button during arguments.
it's a fucking nightmare to live through it, unless you are as emotionally unstable as her.
I completely agree. The MC should get a damn gold medal for courage and superior pair of balls for being able to resist for years in a loveless marriage with all that nagging, neglecting, constant arguing and barely any intimacy and hints of love still being left between them, not to get his balls busted for doing what at least 7/10 men would've done in his case. I know I wouldn't put up with it, and I'm pretty sure at least 9/10 women IRL wouldn't either, not for that long, which is why I think their reconciliation is nothing more than a big ass fan service to whoever's interested in her.

i am tired of real life creeping into gaming and more people seem to support
That's you, and just like you have your own tastes, preferences and opinions in what's good or not in porn games, so do other ppl. Just ignore the comments and porn games you don't like, only focus on those you do, and you should be good.

However, there needs to be a certain percentage of realism in the story for a more interesting experience, otherwise non NTR porn game stories would be almost as engaging as cuck/slut simulators are with their overused, boring, nonsensical shit about women who're perfect 9s and 10s fucking guys who're perfect 1s and 2s for a sane woman with an ounce of self-esteem only on a good day and only after a looot of drinks and months spent without getting any dick. That's why non NTR stories like this one are always better than that cringey ass rapey shit.:whistle:
 

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I completely agree. The MC should get a damn gold medal for courage and superior pair of balls for being able to resist for years in a loveless marriage with all that nagging, neglecting, constant arguing and barely any intimacy and hints of love still being left between them, not to get his balls busted for doing what at least 7/10 men would've done in his case. I know I wouldn't put up with it, and I'm pretty sure at least 9/10 women IRL wouldn't either, not for that long, which is why I think their reconciliation is nothing more than a big ass fan service to whoever's interested in her.
The story changes drastically between the Hate and Reconciliatory approach. The devs really pushed "responsibility" to one or the other... as in almost a complete role swap. Yes I know both were at fault, but they really go out of their way to try and set primary ownership on one or the other.

If you are on the Hate path, MC says it was Allie who turned the marriage loveless, was never home, always working, and ignored him. And she doesn't disagree.

If you are on the reconciliatory path, Allie says the MC turned the marriage loveless, he was always gone, always working on Delilah, never home, and broke her heart when he spent more time under Delilah than her. MC even owns up to it on a few of the scenes.

The devs really went out of their way to diverge that part of the storyline, and it makes it really complex to discuss as you have to caveat your take with the path you took as the story changes.
 

cooldevo

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Again....this happens on both paths, it is not a hate path exclusive conversation. I have this convo on my reconcile save.
Oh it is, but it's very much minimized compared to the rest of the conversation. Just like on the other path, it's all discussed but there's a larger focus of the talking one way or the other.
 

xXwankerXx

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The story changes drastically between the Hate and Reconciliatory approach. The devs really pushed "responsibility" to one or the other... as in almost a complete role swap.
Oh it is, but it's very much minimized compared to the rest of the conversation.
I think the devs read some of the comments in the thread on this seemingly never-ending debate and simply wanted to be done with it for good by letting the players themselves choose who's the one responsible for everything, which, if you ask me, it's wrong, bcz we don't have just one person to blame here here, we have two, both of them are, and the main one only changes genders, depending on which path you take with Allison.

If you are on the Hate path, MC says it was Allie who turned the marriage loveless, was never home, always working, and ignored him. And she doesn't disagree.
If you are on the reconciliatory path, Allie says the MC turned the marriage loveless, he was always gone, always working on Delilah, never home, and broke her heart when he spent more time under Delilah than her. MC even owns up to it on a few of the scenes.
There's always two sides to every accusation or story like that, but in this case, it's too much. The writer overcomplicated things for no reason, when a simple "they tried and it didn't work out cuz of this and that more or less valid reason, but their lack of life experience when making the big step toward getting married was the main reason why the marriage didn't work".

The bottom line is, shit happens, a lot of long term relationships and marriages don't last forever, ppl eventually grow apart, they say and do things they later come to regret, and everyone deserves to be forgiven as long as they work hard to earn their forgiveness and prove to their partners they deserve that second chance. So, whether the player wants Jake and Allison to be together again or not, it's a simple matter of having two different saves for both routes, and nothing more than that.:)

The devs really went out of their way to diverge that part of the storyline, and it makes it really complex to discuss
Yeah, it's why so many white knights always jump to her defense, most of the time, without taking both sides of the story into account and just cuz they saw it was the MC who cheated on her, instead of taking the logical step to divorce her first and then look for other women, to which I can only say that she didn't take this 'logical' step either, didn't put too much effort into saving their marriage until it was too late for that, but it's safe to say they both only stayed together for Lily's sake. She's the only reason why Jake and Allison didn't divorce and go their separate ways, like it usually happens IRL.
 
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All this longwinded analysis of Allison seems so utterly silly in this context - this is a porn game first and foremost and shouldn't make apologies.

I mean, can any of you even imagine a narrative where mc had split with his wife, their daughter was in an accident and hospitalized, and mc through choices could either try and make up with the wife or push her away...... but in nearly all cases the wife was having massive amounts of sex on the side with others....

That'd be seen as a ridiculous over the top ntr-style horror story. Clearly the tone of this game isn't going for that - but that's my point, it's utterly silly to apply real world relationship logic to a world built on non-existent rules.

I was very disappointed to see the only Allison sex scene be placed on the hate route - that pretty clearly communicated to me where the dev's personal interests lie. (this is all an aside ofc, Veronica and Maggie's path are far more enjoyable than either of Allisons)
 

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All this longwinded analysis of Allison seems so utterly silly in this context - this is a porn game first and foremost and shouldn't make apologies.
your assumptions about this being a porn game are wrong, so I'm not even gonna reply to the rest.

This is an visual novel with adult elements first and foremost. Yes it has some nudity and sex scenes. But it's not the main theme of the game, where one could categorize it as "porn". Porn is about people fucking, no more no less, sometimes dressed in a shitty story to accommodate the mentioned fucking . There are games that do just that, but this ain't one of them.
 
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your assumptions about this being a porn game are wrong, so I'm not even gonna reply to the rest.

This is an visual novel with adult elements first and foremost. Yes it has some nudity and sex scenes. But it's not the main theme of the game, where one could categorize it as "porn". Porn is about people fucking, no more no less, sometimes dressed in a shitty story to accommodate the mentioned fucking . There are games that do just that, but this ain't one of them.
I don't say it's a porn game because there's sex present. I say it's a porn game because of the narrative leaps it takes - such as I described above. Relax, I'm not coming for your first born, the rest of the game was extremely enjoyable; I just think the whole Allison-daughter care segments juxtaposed with mc's free-fucking behvaior felt incongruent.

In contrast, the segments where Veronica wants to break up if you push her away or give in to Jasmine too much felt very mature and well-done, I was impressed with how he did those paths.
 
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