VN Ren'Py Radiant [v0.7.1] [RK Studios]

[Elinan]

We're talking about the same dev here (Sir Dammed) that led on and bullshitted the supporters of his other game (Polarity) for around 2 years, promising that an update was coming, releasing dev logs every now and then ensuring everyone that it was going to be the biggest update yet and that it would be worth the wait and then just stopped posting all together in 2021 with nary a peep since.

This was still going on whilst he was working on this game with Alorth. I can't speak on Alorth's game as i've never played it and I have no idea what the dev cycle has been like for it. SirDammed however routinely promised that after a Radiant update released he would definitely drop his update for Polarity, that never happened and he never once paused payments on his separate patreon or anything like that. Hell his separate patreon is still up to this day, still with some supporters and a small amount of money coming in and he hasn't posted on it coming up to two years now. He's clearly given up on Polarity so why hasn't he closed the patreon or maybe refunded those supporters? Why is he still taking the money of the 69 people still supporting him on his personal patreon?

I think questioning the practices of these devs, and criticising Sir Dammed in particular is absolutely fair. Also, i'm sorry but that screenshot 'explanation' about why they can't pause the payments is embarrassing. If this and Polarity are his only income and he routinely delays and fails to deliver promised work then the money issues are his and his alone, it's not his supporters fault that he can't get shit done or that he's struggling because he's "sick". He'll quite happily take his supporters money while delivering nothing in return but balks at the thought of giving his supporters a break by pausing their payments or maybe even refunding them their hard earned money and his colleague comes in with the 'woe is me' story about how he might have to get a job in the real world if he doesn't keep on collecting your donations. Nah he's wrong for that.

Support him if you want, it's your money but don't make excuses for someone that clearly doesn't give a shit about you.

Apologies for the rant

Alorths games are actually pretty good, allthough the update frequence have gone down since Radiant. SirD on the other hand, polarity is a terrible game with terrible renders, it's no wonder he abandoned the game, but he shouldn't have lied about progress and stuff instead of just beeing straight up saying he abandoning the game.

 

[faramata]

Nah. The shocking thing is all the whinebabies that live here ranting and crying about it. Ignore it and move one, but nope. He lives rent free in their heads. Don't like his update speed? Ignore it til it updates, or just ignore it period. But: snivel whine, cry, snuffle, snuffle, snork. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

That's the vast majority of this thread. Yet, somehow, their entitled sniveling and flaming is never deleted for being offtopic or trolling. Funny that.

How exactly would it be on topic when the topic IS Radiant?

 

[Xomyt1asha]

Another abadoned game.... Sad

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

REEEEEEE troll dev and his ape followers REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE twice

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I definitely need to work on the lyrics.

 

[Elinan]

The cycle of the Radiant thread:

1. Update drops!
2. Exhaust all conversations about the story and the future of the game
3. Whine about how long updates take
4. Laugh at any status updates that justify delays
5. Whine about the whiners
6. Repeats steps 3-5 until 1 happens again

Did I miss anything?

People visit the thread for the memes, abit like ICSTOR, kinda entertaining

 

[1tomadeira]

We're talking about the same dev here (Sir Dammed) that led on and bullshitted the supporters of his other game (Polarity) for around 2 years, promising that an update was coming, releasing dev logs every now and then ensuring everyone that it was going to be the biggest update yet and that it would be worth the wait and then just stopped posting all together in 2021 with nary a peep since.

This was still going on whilst he was working on this game with Alorth. I can't speak on Alorth's game as i've never played it and I have no idea what the dev cycle has been like for it. SirDammed however routinely promised that after a Radiant update released he would definitely drop his update for Polarity, that never happened and he never once paused payments on his separate patreon or anything like that. Hell his separate patreon is still up to this day, still with some supporters and a small amount of money coming in and he hasn't posted on it coming up to two years now. He's clearly given up on Polarity so why hasn't he closed the patreon or maybe refunded those supporters? Why is he still taking the money of the 69 people still supporting him on his personal patreon?

I think questioning the practices of these devs, and criticising Sir Dammed in particular is absolutely fair. Also, i'm sorry but that screenshot 'explanation' about why they can't pause the payments is embarrassing. If this and Polarity are his only income and he routinely delays and fails to deliver promised work then the money issues are his and his alone, it's not his supporters fault that he can't get shit done or that he's struggling because he's "sick". He'll quite happily take his supporters money while delivering nothing in return but balks at the thought of giving his supporters a break by pausing their payments or maybe even refunding them their hard earned money and his colleague comes in with the 'woe is me' story about how he might have to get a job in the real world if he doesn't keep on collecting your donations. Nah he's wrong for that.

Support him if you want, it's your money but don't make excuses for someone that clearly doesn't give a shit about you.

Apologies for the rant

What do you mean, a guy who milked his supporters with a game and abandoned the project is doing the same thing all over again? Not to mention that when the development started to slow down on this game he started to blame Alorth for the delay when he meets the deadline with other devs? Are you telling me that this dev is actually lying and not telling the truth at all, that his work is normal to take time to produce, and other devs only produce more content and releases because they are magicians, unlike him?

What a shocker, I would never expect that at all. Never thought about that since nearly 2 years ago. Not even once. Specially after leaving a game abandoned before already, clearly not a red flag at all.

 

[1tomadeira]

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You can't and neither of us can, because this dev won't ever read the prayers of everyone to stop milking his supporters and actually stop lying.

 

[legend_shon]

wanna see some 4k wallpapers huh ?

yep

 

[godoff95]

β and γ when?

 

[Elinan]

here is a message from one of the devs explaining, among other things, why they don't pause payments

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so it's basically a charityproject? The nerve of some people.. Welcome to reality, you need to work to get money, it doesn't matter if you're depressed, ill, pain, you still go to work. And this guy even works from home, he can basically work in his bed with the right setup.

 

[virtuvoid]

so it's basically a charityproject? The nerve of some people.. Welcome to reality, you need to work to get money, it doesn't matter if you're depressed, ill, pain, you still go to work. And this guy even works from home, he can basically work in his bed with the right setup.

To "work" in bed, sure.
To work out of bed, nah.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I like Radiant and I'm happy to support the creator for this project.

I know how easy it is for a healthy person to say - 'get up off your butt and get some work done' - aimed at someone who is not healthy or is experiencing health issues.

I've been on both sides of that fence and when someone is laid up in bed, it Is harder to get things done (and sometimes motivation Can be an issue).

I've had a family member who never recovered from a major health issue, and I would not wish that, and being bed-ridden - almost waiting to die, on anyone.

For those who have not experienced a bout of really bad health, congrats! For most of us - Father Time will fix that as the years roll by.

I hope that Sir Damned can recover from whatever has him on the ropes.

If he can, we will get more of an enjoyable VN, Radiant, at whatever speed he and Alorth are able to continue to create.

If he can't, then he has bigger issues to worry about than creating a VN for his supporters and those who expect to take it for free.

We lose too many good/great VNs due to dev health issues and other unfortunate life changes.

I hope that Radiant does not ultimately fall into this category.

 

[faramata]

You sure you're not one of them in disguise?

 

[Badjourasmix]

I like Radiant and I'm happy to support the creator for this project.

I know how easy it is for a healthy person to say - 'get up off your butt and get some work done' - aimed at someone who is not healthy or is experiencing health issues.

I've been on both sides of that fence and when someone is laid up in bed, it Is harder to get things done (and sometimes motivation Can be an issue).

I've had a family member who never recovered from a major health issue, and I would not wish that, and being bed-ridden - almost waiting to die, on anyone.

For those who have not experienced a bout of really bad health, congrats! For most of us - Father Time will fix that as the years roll by.

I hope that Sir Damned can recover from whatever has him on the ropes.

If he can, we will get more of an enjoyable VN, Radiant, at whatever speed he and Alorth are able to continue to create.

If he can't, then he has bigger issues to worry about than creating a VN for his supporters and those who expect to take it for free.

We lose too many good/great VNs due to dev health issues and other unfortunate life changes.

I hope that Radiant does not ultimately fall into this category.

I am not against giving devs the benefit of the doubt, but in this case it's really hard. I don't even like the milking meme but he has a game that it's abandoned and he still has the patreon page for that game, active, despite the fact that the last update was 3 years ago and there is not evidence that he is working on that.

 

[dolfe67]

Oh I thought it was patronage for an artist's work, but it's actually charity, my bad!

 

[Solaris33]

I like Radiant and I'm happy to support the creator for this project.

I know how easy it is for a healthy person to say - 'get up off your butt and get some work done' - aimed at someone who is not healthy or is experiencing health issues.

I've been on both sides of that fence and when someone is laid up in bed, it Is harder to get things done (and sometimes motivation Can be an issue).

I've had a family member who never recovered from a major health issue, and I would not wish that, and being bed-ridden - almost waiting to die, on anyone.

For those who have not experienced a bout of really bad health, congrats! For most of us - Father Time will fix that as the years roll by.

I hope that Sir Damned can recover from whatever has him on the ropes.

If he can, we will get more of an enjoyable VN, Radiant, at whatever speed he and Alorth are able to continue to create.

If he can't, then he has bigger issues to worry about than creating a VN for his supporters and those who expect to take it for free.

We lose too many good/great VNs due to dev health issues and other unfortunate life changes.

I hope that Radiant does not ultimately fall into this category.

I agree with most of what you said, but we can't pretend that development of Radiant would be going well even if Sir Dammed was 100% healthy. I can say that with complete certainty because the update cycle was terrible long before he got sick, or whatever happened to him.

 

[The Pointman]

This got updated i thought it was dead. lol

 

[faramata]

We lose too many good/great VNs due to dev health issues and other unfortunate life changes.

I hope that Radiant does not ultimately fall into this category.

Yeah, I can see these guys going to a life insurer and they get asked "What do you do? I'm a pron game developer on Patreon". "Sorry, you are not eligible for a life insurance policy."

 

[faramata]

Nah. The shocking thing is all the whinebabies that live here ranting and crying about it. Ignore it and move one, but nope. He lives rent free in their heads. Don't like his update speed? Ignore it til it updates, or just ignore it period. But: snivel whine, cry, snuffle, snuffle, snork. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

That's the vast majority of this thread. Yet, somehow, their entitled sniveling and flaming is never deleted for being offtopic or trolling. Funny that.

Why, the nerve of these people... I suppose you're one of those guys who thinks unpaid internships are somehow a privilege?

 

[PaxHadrian17]

You sure you're not one of them in disguise?

If you look at my posting history, you'll see that I am active on far more than just the Radiant thread.

If you have actually played some of the VN's where I post regularly, you will also see that I am an active member of those communities.

Your question above - whether or not I am one of the devs, sarcastic or not, is irrelevant.

I like Radiant and I have no issue with declaring that or having certain members of this community find fault with it.

I understand that my support - both verbal and $, seems to bother some here and I am fine with that.

I support a number of devs, in some cases paying it forward and in others, giving support well after they have completed a particular project, just as a thank you.

I don't tell anyone here to do the same - I just go with what works for me.

I am looking forward to the next Radiant update, whenever it happens. For that to occur, Sir Damned needs to regain his health.

I hope he does and soon.

Have a great weekend!

Cheers!