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The released portion is Part 1 of two parts. Part 2 has been pending, pending, pending...
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Life brings "curve balls" to the developer.
I'm curious what other excuse he's going to pull out of his ass this time.
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He's already done the meteor bit.
Maybe a Volkswagen Beetle.
Dukez
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Reading that polarity thing, I didn't realize this was the same dev. Damn this devs remind me of a BlueCat from Ecchi Sensei then...
Gunzman7T
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Bro must be a die hard fan.
bobfast
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i tried this game just a few months after the first version came out and had high hopes
holy FUCK, how can you have 3 years of development and still the game is this BARREN
is it just the norm now to squeeze the paypigs dry or what, lazy bums being """"""sick""""" all the time, i do graphic design as a sidegig two or three hours every week and i pump out more content than these greedy hobos
holy FUCK, how can you have 3 years of development and still the game is this BARREN
is it just the norm now to squeeze the paypigs dry or what, lazy bums being """"""sick""""" all the time, i do graphic design as a sidegig two or three hours every week and i pump out more content than these greedy hobos
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CrusherXL
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Watchout bro!
You don't wanna jinx yourself and catch one of those mysterious developer illnesses.
bobfast
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that disease...lazybonesitis
imagine having a monthly budget that could feed multiple families and you make less progress on ur RENPY game - a engine so easy to code in, that you could blindfold 100 chimps at typewriters and they would eventually create a game that would get a 20k a month patreon, than a person making naked statues mods in skyrim
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With scads of cash goes ethical responsibility.
To put it another way: If you're not going to be able to work on the game for a protracted amount of time, pause your damn payments. Takes all of ten seconds to do so, tops.
To put it another way: If you're not going to be able to work on the game for a protracted amount of time, pause your damn payments. Takes all of ten seconds to do so, tops.
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Even so, this method is indirect.
Just go the direct route : Buymeacoffee. This is an option from the OP.
Some really nice side benefits : Devs would see their monthly revenues droop if more players adopt this no play/no pay approach so they will either drop more content or bail (not a preferred result but way more honest than the present BS extravaganza) ; this thread would become a helluva less toxic.
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Toxic, huh. Truth is corrosive, bullshit is kind.
Devs have a choice - to pause payments or to allow the adults in the room to make that choice for themselves.
I'd rather make that choice for myself and when devs have offered this on Patreon/SS - I've made that point to them.
I understand that there is a vocal minority here that want to punish the dev - justified or not (and the level of justified entitlement in this thread is astounding) - but what gives Any non-supporter the right to force every supporter to stop donating whether those supporters want to or not?
For those here taking this AVN for free, why persist with Repeated PSA's telling supporters how to spend money They earned?
I find the angst evidenced by some posters - complaining about the lack of control over other human beings because those human beings are not spending their money the way those posters want them to (stopping their support of this dev) - to be a bit troubling!
It's like a hobo dumpster-diving for food behind a restaurant then complaining that the restaurant has not provided the balanced meal that the hobo deserves or that it should be open on Sundays because the hobo has to eat and is Owed food from the restaurant.
A dev has a responsibility to his/her supporters and it is up to each supporter how to support each dev and when to stop.
Supporters have NO responsibility to defer to non-supporters on F95 or any other forum.
Cheers!
Handy Dean
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Jfc Pax how offen do we have to go over this? Yes, people are allowed to spend their money however they choose to - but at the same time people are allowed to criticize. Imo those braindead paypigs still sinking their money into this sad affair can and should be criticized, they're the ones enabling the absolute mindnumbing laziness behind this project. Oh sorry I forgot to tell you, I have supported them in the past, do I have your permition to say this?
How do you even know which poster is/is not a supporter? How do you determine which criticism is legit because there is monetary support behind it?
You have obviously no idea and I think it's pretty clear to mostly everyone ITT that you're just diverting from the absoluetely astounding incompetence of these devs. If I was a little more on the paranoid site I'd say you're a dev yourself but honestly you just seem like the most obnoxious white knight contrarian playing debate club on a fucking porn forum.
It really goes to show that you're not even adressing actual criticisms you just try to police who has a right to complain - over and over and over.
How do you even know which poster is/is not a supporter? How do you determine which criticism is legit because there is monetary support behind it?
You have obviously no idea and I think it's pretty clear to mostly everyone ITT that you're just diverting from the absoluetely astounding incompetence of these devs. If I was a little more on the paranoid site I'd say you're a dev yourself but honestly you just seem like the most obnoxious white knight contrarian playing debate club on a fucking porn forum.
It really goes to show that you're not even adressing actual criticisms you just try to police who has a right to complain - over and over and over.
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An interesting sub-group of supporters are those players who are really into Discord access. Everyone should have the right to choose an individual path.
But the blame for the ever-increasing update scarcity (generally) in the AVN genre should be placed where it belongs : Patreon and other payment processors.
The majority of Devs (I know several who were F95 posters beforehand) went along with the Patreons for a chance at a better life-style for themselves. Some would call this "corruption" but it's easily understandable.
A practical fix is to deny the Patreons recurring fees. These days, many of us have many online accounts with different nicks/passwords. Too easy to forget to cancel a service. This situation greatly favors the sellers.
If a supporter is a Discord/wallpaper lover or whatever, go ahead. Your call. But such calls are not good for our overall community. The average time between AVNs on this site has gone from ~6 weeks (6years ago) to ~6 months. The most likely question in a game thread is "WTF is the update?"
I want very much to hold Devs accountable. Hard-core pirates don't really count : the sheer number of Devs and games are ever-increasing. For paying supporters, getting away from recurring charges seems to be the only positive path to sensibly effect things.
No play, no pay!
Please feel free to criticize the devs and any current supporters you disagree with - you need no one's permission to do this here.
As to your concern that I am 'not even adressing actual criticisms' - your own post criticizes supporters like me for continuing to support Radiant devs with $, making my point yet again - people telling others how to spend their money.
This was the entire point of my post ....
I will continue to be one of those people who support Radiant with $ until I Decide it is time to move on.
Whatever you may think - Radiant has come No Where Close to reaching the level of certain dev's who I Did stop supporting (ICSTOR - Milfy City, Gumdrop - Dual Family).
I enjoy Radiant.
While I hope for updates and ultimately a completed, non-truncated, AVN, Sir Damned's health will have a major impact on whether or not this happens.
Regardless of what is published between now and 2024, I will enjoy a replay of Radiant in 2024.
I enjoy replaying favorite AVNs, a mix of complete AVNs and incomplete AVNs, and Radiant is now among them.
Perhaps Radiant will remain a favorite through the years or perhaps it will not survive the test of time.
Whatever happens, I will continue to find AVNs I enjoy on F95/Patreon/SS and support a number of them because I choose to.
Thanks for at least taking the time to put words behind you facepalm reaction - that is more than what most of the facepalmer's do.
We don't agree on the timing for supporters to stop supporting Radiant with $, but that does not mean we can't have a relatively civil discussion.
Cheers!
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You clearly a masochist...
it all comes down to whether you believe the health excuses or not.
if you do, it´s reasonable to continue the support.
if you don´t (like me), you´re basically saying the devs don´t work at it out of laziness or simply pure calculation (why should i do something if they pay anyway). in that scenario, the only possibility for this game to get a even half decent update speed is a dramatic decrease in supporters.
and i feel that´s where the frustration of many guys here comes from. the supporters feel like a reason the game doesn´t move forward.
it all remains speculation anyway, since no one here actually has insight on how the situation really is. and while i generally agree with the idea of "people should decide what to do with their money themselves", a part of me hopes for the majority of supporters to leave temporarily, since i really want this game to get updates. it´s not about punishing the devs, it´s about making progress.
if this thing gets updates at a reasonable pace, i´d pledge a few coins myself and also hope for the supportes to return.
if you do, it´s reasonable to continue the support.
if you don´t (like me), you´re basically saying the devs don´t work at it out of laziness or simply pure calculation (why should i do something if they pay anyway). in that scenario, the only possibility for this game to get a even half decent update speed is a dramatic decrease in supporters.
and i feel that´s where the frustration of many guys here comes from. the supporters feel like a reason the game doesn´t move forward.
it all remains speculation anyway, since no one here actually has insight on how the situation really is. and while i generally agree with the idea of "people should decide what to do with their money themselves", a part of me hopes for the majority of supporters to leave temporarily, since i really want this game to get updates. it´s not about punishing the devs, it´s about making progress.
if this thing gets updates at a reasonable pace, i´d pledge a few coins myself and also hope for the supportes to return.
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Yeah, I think there's a revolving door of supporters that come by every quarter or so. New people find this site every day, they learn about this game, play it, and think "wow this is such a good game I'll give a few them bucks." Then after a few months they say... "hey... where's the update you said would be out by now?" Then they get their first-time excuse and say, "oh okay, this must not happen a lot I'll give them another shot... it's not like a dev would have seven major life events happen each time for seven releases..." fast-forward to today... annnnnd here we are.
It's like the devs spent 100% of their time working on this project initially, then 90% work, with 10% effort coming up with an excuse, then 70/30. Now the table has flipped, and they work 10% on the game and 90% effort goes into a more believable excuse than the game itself.
I'm thinking this conversation has already been had behind the scenes:
Dev1: "Fuck it, we said that chapter 5 alpha is 70% complete right?"
Dev2: "Yea."
Dev1: "And we said we would have the remaining 30% done in no less than a month?"
Dev2: "Yea."
Dev1: "Polished and ready to play as the complete beta, right?"
Dev2: "Yea.."
Dev1: "And we've been in Alpha for how long? 4 months?"
Dev2: "Yea..."
Dev1: "And we said we would deliver Chapter 6 in August?"
Dev2: "Yea we have a ton of work ahead of us..."
Dev1: "Nope! No work! Here's what we do, we work on the remaining 30% and don't deliver it as a complete beta."
Dev2: "Okay...?"
Dev1: "What we do is call remaining 30% of Chapter 5..."
In unison: "Chapter 6 INSTEAD!"
Dev1: "Bro you've read my mind; this is totally believable!"
Dev2: "yea fuck these losers, they've gobbled up everything we've said so far!"
Honestly, screw the update, I'm here to watch this dumpster fire of a developmental process go down; not like the Titanic in a few hours, not like the Lusitania in 18 minutes, but that little sub that suddenly imploded. (Side note: I find it hilarious the company was literally called OceanGate lmfao... perfect)
I either just gave them an idea for chapter 6, or this was their plan all along... Either way, I'm right.
By the way, devs, I know you're reading this between your FF gaming secessions, so hi, and all that... if you would just fulfill your obligations, you set yourself, and give us a game to play and discuss, and I won't have to do these kinds of posts. Do you think my schizophrenic-sociopathic tendencies like doing this? Well... they do, but that's beside the point. Do you see this happening in other game threads? No. Just this one...? Weird. I wonder what factor distinguishes you from them. You. You are your own worst enemy right now.
To the people reading my nonsense, stay hydrated and thirsty for both knowledge and physicality bois. I want you to be better than you were yesterday, so I want you to do this today, break it up if you have to:
x100 body squats
x100 pushups (wall pushups if you're a little fatty (we're going to fix that though))
x100 sit-ups
Stop donating to these clowns and buy a set of kettlebells.