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Also, earlier on, didn't the MC's parents notice that pregnant girl visiting him in the hospital? They could help her.
This is also a good point. They could have look after their grandchildren but seems like they did not care.

TBH, though, in real life relationships go cold all the time. Friendships aren't like Magneto and Xavier. I guess that's why people enjoy escapism so much... So may have just appealed to him because she knew she would die and didn't want the girls to fend for themselves.
Even if she did not feel anything towards MC, which is unlikely btw because how the girls talked about her or the letter, she should have at least make a connection so the girls can meet their father.

MC does not remember anything from his past. How the hell he was not curious enough to investigate who he was before the accident? He has some trauma over the accident, does he never seen a therapist? A sensible therapist urge him to look into his past life. He dreams a girl almost every night years long but did not even care to connect her to his past? If I were him I would have find a composite artist to draw a picture of her then went back to high school to check if anyone knew the girl, if high school was a miss I'd ask about her in the town if anyone know of her. I mean he should have at least curious about these.

Like drTheta said, she visited him at least a year, how come MC's parents did not notice a pregnant girl visiting their son? How did they never found out about their grandchildren?

Also, why mother did not reach out to MC's parents? Her own family kicked her out, she had nowhere to go with triplets. One would assume she at least reach out MC's parents about their grandchildren.

Though, answer is very clear. If any of these happened then there won't be Radiant. So it is what it is I guess. :p
 
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It's all about priorities.
And dreaming about a dead one night stand is a priority ?
It's not like that he is really talking with Gracie either way, just his subconscious, neither is it needed for sex scenes as for these there are alive girls...on the other hand it would be an amusing talk with Gracie of how he beat up one daughter and raped the other.
 
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And dreaming about a dead one night stand is a priority ?
It's not like that he is really talking with Gracie either way, just his subconscious, neither is it needed for sex scenes as for these there are alive girls...on the other hand it would be an amusing talk with Gracie of how he beat up one daughter and raped the other.
That's why she sent them to us.
 

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Damn, will this invalidate my savegames?
No, not at all. All this bug was is showing certain dialogue that shouldn't have been shown at a certain point in the game, depending on choices.

These things are corrected all the time and won't have any effect on your saves.

This is also a good point. They could have look after their grandchildren but seems like they did not care.


Even if she did not feel anything towards MC, which is unlikely btw because how the girls talked about her or the letter, she should have at least make a connection so the girls can meet their father.

MC does not remember anything from his past. How the hell he was not curious enough to investigate who he was before the accident? He has some trauma over the accident, does he never seen a therapist? A sensible therapist urge him to look into his past life. He dreams a girl almost every night years long but did not even care to connect her to his past? If I were him I would have find a composite artist to draw a picture of her then went back to high school to check if anyone knew the girl, if high school was a miss I'd ask about her in the town if anyone know of her. I mean he should have at least curious about these.

Like drTheta said, she visited him at least a year, how come MC's parents did not notice a pregnant girl visiting their son? How did they never found out about their grandchildren?

Also, why mother did not reach out to MC's parents? Her own family kicked her out, she had nowhere to go with triplets. One would assume she at least reach out MC's parents about their grandchildren.

Though, answer is very clear. If any of these happened then there won't be Radiant. So it is what it is I guess. :p
These are some pretty wild assumptions without knowing for sure what happened. Devs have said multiple times that past stuff with Gracie and what happened while he was in a coma is explained/expanded upon later on in the story, including why Gracie didn't reach out to him in the few years since he'd woken up (which has been asked about multiple times), so I wouldn't assume too much until then. We've been assured there are valid explanations for this.
 
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And dreaming about a dead one night stand is a priority ?
It's not like that he is really talking with Gracie either way, just his subconscious, neither is it needed for sex scenes as for these there are alive girls...on the other hand it would be an amusing talk with Gracie of how he beat up one daughter and raped the other.
I can't believe you took my response so seriously.
 

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Hm, seriously ?
No not really, i just wonder why people want more Gracie dreams or like them.
People care about her and it helps add character/context to the triplets. How much or how little someone cares about her will depend on how much or how little they care about story vs. lewd content.

I normally dislike dream/alt reality stuff too but if it's done well idm it
 
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People care about her and it helps add character/context to the triplets. How much or how little someone cares about her will depend on how much or how little they care about story vs. lewd content.

I normally dislike dream/alt reality stuff too but if it's done well idm it
I care more about story than sex, yet i still don't care about the dreams, as it is just that, dreams.
It's not really Gracie, it provides little of substance, the visit to her grave and the reaction of the girls was an different matter for example, that had impact.
Beside that, the dreams were lewd too...
 
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People care about her and it helps add character/context to the triplets.
Also, there are a lot of things that don't make sense without knowing more about Gracie and her relationship with her daughters. I don't know if all those things will be explained, but she's certainly still a major enigma in the MC's life, and also in her daughters' lives.
 

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I care more about story than sex, yet i still don't care about the dreams, as it is just that, dreams.
It's not really Gracie, it provides little of substance, the visit for her grave and the reaction of the girls was an different matter for example, that had impact.
Beside that, the dreams were lewd too...
You're assuming that they're just dreams. Wouldn't be the first time that AVN dream girls were metaphysical and not just psychological. No matter how sweet MC's night with Gracie was I kinda doubt that she'd be haunting his dreams for a decade or w/e it's been since he woke up from the coma given that he didn't even remember her. Seems safe to assume there's more to it than just dreams.
 

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Also, there are a lot of things that don't make sense without knowing more about Gracie and her relationship with her daughters. I don't know if all those things will be explained, but she's certainly still a major enigma in the MC's life, and also in her daughters' lives.
True, but that info you won't get in the MC's dreams, but from things like that visit to the grave and speaking with the girls and others.
As for her meaning to the MC, i don't see the enigma here. They meet the prom, got drunk and had a one night stand and yeah she gave him daughters.
Even if the MC remembers that night at one point, trying to sell that as something like love at first sight, or how important she was for him would just be bad imo.

No matter how sweet MC's night with Gracie was I kinda doubt that she'd be haunting his dreams for a decade or w/e it's been since he woke up from the coma given that he didn't even remember her. Seems safe to assume there's more to it than just dreams.
She was the last thing before the accident and it's not like the memories got erased just because the MC can't remember them.
So i won't make that more than his subconscious and represed memories out of it.

I mean, Gracie died only recently, so if she wasn't some psyker or some magic involved, i don't see it as heavenly guidance.
Not too mention, if you are on the dark path, she would likely try to strangle the MC.
 
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You have absolutely no idea if that's true or not. You may or may not be right, but you don't know.
Well true.
Just going out from how these dreams are and were so far. The MC has dreamed about Gracie for many years and from what i remember there weren't any information revealed, including Gracie's name.
So far these were mostly wet dreams from what i get and the discussion about the daughters.

What i could imagine is that he maybe remembers/has a flashback about some things from when he was in coma, maybe some things the real Gracie or his parents said.
 

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I just wasted a lot of time playing through the game again just to get the same result. Her profile says "relationship: none". Could that be the cause? 0.6.3, going for the mostly dark choices. You'd think that would help.
 
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I just wasted a lot of time playing through the game again just to get the same result. Her profile says "relationship: none". Could that be the cause? 0.6.3, going for the mostly dark choices. You'd think that would help.
Then may be try a different path... :KEK:
 
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