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The Dev doesn’t “owe” anyone. It’s his game. If he wants to fiddle away his sub support, that’s his business.
I cannot understand what you insist on not understanding here. It's a site with more than 8 million members and, last time I checked, more than 50 million monthly visitors, and not everyone who plays the game through this site plays for free. There are also people who like the game and want it to be developed further, and they can support the developer on Patreon or other platforms. That's how early development visual novel games like this make money. If this game was first released on Steam and had DRM protection and there wasn't a site like F95zone, it would have been cracked and pirated anyway. I also don't understand why you continue to download games from this site if you look at it this way. Close your account and follow the games on Patreon then.
 

xert13

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I cannot understand what you insist on not understanding here. It's a site with more than 8 million members and, last time I checked, more than 50 million monthly visitors, and not everyone who plays the game through this site plays for free. There are also people who like the game and want it to be developed further, and they can support the developer on Patreon or other platforms. That's how early development visual novel games like this make money. If this game was first released on Steam and had DRM protection and there wasn't a site like F95zone, it would have been cracked and pirated anyway. I also don't understand why you continue to download games from this site if you look at it this way. Close your account and follow the games on Patreon then.
I don’t understand why you insist on being so dense. I never crapped on this site, nor did I insist that others cannot voice their opinions. I simply stated that the dev doesn’t ”owe” anyone on this site. Guess what Sparky, I have supported this Dev off and on since first release. Let me map it out for you: once it appears no update is forthcoming within three months, I halt my support. I don’t go on this site and whine incessantly about it. I also don’t understand how you do not understand others may have a different opinion than you - and that’s ok. Sorry I hurt your fweelings. Close your laptop and toss it out the window.
 

Allenebs

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I get where you're coming from but you're wrong. He's making almost $5k a month on Patreon from his work and I guarantee you he doesn't owe that to this website. I'm struggling to think of one thing he owes the users of this website, maybe you can enlighten me?
lmao you do realize there is absolutely zero advertisement for AVN's, right? This game isn't on Steam. This is a second time dev who abandoned his first game working alongside another dev who has always been too lazy to even attempt to advertise the game on their own socials. Patreon, like Onlyfans, is a walled fucking garden. You go into it not knowing what you're paying for. You don't end up making what they are on this game without external influence.

How can you be an adult in a world inundated with marketing and understand so little about it? There are thousands of porn sites that trade exclusively in OF model content that go untouched bc IT'S FREE ADVERTISING WHERE THE MODELS ARE IN COMPLETELY CONTROL OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE DUE TO DMCA. Willful ignorance transcends to utter stupidity at some point, man.

Would you care to explain to the class how a CEO of one of the largest entertainment corporations in the world spent roughly 2 decades selling a premium service without paying for advertisements? A practice that led his company to heights never before imagined, setting up the model EVERYONE else followed. Or would you find it easier to explain how Netflix became the juggernaut it is by replicating what piracy was doing, sending piracy to all time lows, before the dozens of companies attempting to clone them sent piracy right back to its highest ever peaks?

Lars Ulrich and his bandmates were idiots that have practically destroyed the music industry by publicly destroying Napster. It was replaced by "premium" services that any joe-blow can release their content on, allowing not just for free advertising, but also creating a store to sell their product. That place simply will not be allowed to exist for anything remotely deemed adult content in the world as it is. And until there is an actual Spotify for adult games, sites like this are an absolute necessity for games like this to have any chance at success.
 

dluser

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Apr 23, 2024
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lmao you do realize there is absolutely zero advertisement for AVN's, right? This game isn't on Steam. This is a second time dev who abandoned his first game working alongside another dev who has always been too lazy to even attempt to advertise the game on their own socials. Patreon, like Onlyfans, is a walled fucking garden. You go into it not knowing what you're paying for. You don't end up making what they are on this game without external influence.

How can you be an adult in a world inundated with marketing and understand so little about it? There are thousands of porn sites that trade exclusively in OF model content that go untouched bc IT'S FREE ADVERTISING WHERE THE MODELS ARE IN COMPLETELY CONTROL OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE DUE TO DMCA. Willful ignorance transcends to utter stupidity at some point, man.

Would you care to explain to the class how a CEO of one of the largest entertainment corporations in the world spent roughly 2 decades selling a premium service without paying for advertisements? A practice that led his company to heights never before imagined, setting up the model EVERYONE else followed. Or would you find it easier to explain how Netflix became the juggernaut it is by replicating what piracy was doing, sending piracy to all time lows, before the dozens of companies attempting to clone them sent piracy right back to its highest ever peaks?

Lars Ulrich and his bandmates were idiots that have practically destroyed the music industry by publicly destroying Napster. It was replaced by "premium" services that any joe-blow can release their content on, allowing not just for free advertising, but also creating a store to sell their product. That place simply will not be allowed to exist for anything remotely deemed adult content in the world as it is. And until there is an actual Spotify for adult games, sites like this are an absolute necessity for games like this to have any chance at success.
9 + 1 thumbs up to anyone that shit talks Lars Ulrich (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
 

colobancuz

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I continue to play games on this site because I wanna jerk off, that's all
Seriously, my friend? Monsieur knows how to pervert!
You know, there are so many porn sites where you can find real content for free and without having to install games (and risk getting a virus). For me, gameplay and (or) story come first in games, and I like to think of the fun stuff like porn as a nice bonus.

The other thing is if you're hard on 3dcg exclusively (I'd be worried if I had one), but even in that case we're in the wrong section, I think. This way
 
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Or would you find it easier to explain how Netflix became the juggernaut it is by replicating what piracy was doing, sending piracy to all time lows, before the dozens of companies attempting to clone them sent piracy right back to its highest ever peaks?
I'm not part of this but Netflix doesn't and has never tried to "replicate piracy". It has to pay license fees for the shows before it is allowed to broadcast them. And there's negotiation involved as well.

Dodgy box streaming is practicaly dead now (at least in my country) because of Netflix's overwhelming popularity and the fact that these signals are easily traceable. Arrests have been made.
 
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dluser

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I'm not part of this but Netflix doesn't and has never tried to "replicate piracy". It has to pay license fees for the shows before it is allowed to broadcast them. And there's negotiation involved as well.

Dodgy box streaming is practicaly dead now (at least in my country) because of Netflix's overwhelming popularity and the fact that these signals are easily traceable. Arrests have been made.
i have a Raspberry PI Android Box that gives me something like 6,000 TV stations worldwide
 
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TheRealWimzy

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Seriously, my friend? Monsieur knows how to pervert!
You know, there are so many porn sites where you can find real content for free and without having to install games (and risk getting a virus). For me, gameplay and (or) story come first in games, and I like to think of the fun stuff like porn as a nice bonus.

The other thing is if you're hard on 3dcg exclusively (I'd be worried if I had one), but even in that case we're in the wrong section, I think. This way
What you think and feel about him being a "pervert" for jerking off to AVNs, doesn't matter.
Everybody in here has every right, to have different reasons to 'play' these things.
Whether it'd be for the Story, or simply to take the snake for a walk.
Nobody should be shamed, for how they decide to enjoy AVNs.
:coffee:
 

figaro_negaro

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What you think and feel about him being a "pervert" for jerking off to AVNs, doesn't matter.
Same kind of argument from people that say they "read" playboy and penthouse for the articles and are disgusted by people that crank it to a naked woman's bosom. How dare we. I, for one, hope to goon one last time to Alison's butthole, but knowing my luck the "delayed release" to the 25th of Radiant's apparently finished Ch. 7 update, will get delayed again, and the world ends on the 26th. I've actually challenged myself to not jerk off for the past week in hopes I can build up a massive load for the update on the 25th. If the update releases I can release my release; if the world ends on the 26h, perhaps Jesus can see that I was a good boy for once and I have some salvation. Either way I win.
 

ahardmetapod

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Seriously, my friend? Monsieur knows how to pervert!
You know, there are so many porn sites where you can find real content for free and without having to install games (and risk getting a virus). For me, gameplay and (or) story come first in games, and I like to think of the fun stuff like porn as a nice bonus.

The other thing is if you're hard on 3dcg exclusively (I'd be worried if I had one), but even in that case we're in the wrong section, I think. This way
The interactivity of it is titillating. Not a lot of porn plots where you corrupt 12 girls who move into your hotel. I enjoy reading the plot leading up to, and during the sex scenes but unless a gallery unlocker is available I'm usually spamming left click and spacebar to speed through most dialogue. Weird thread to call someone a pervert, a game about fucking your daughters. Of course.
 

colobancuz

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Aug 11, 2019
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What you think and feel about him being a "pervert" for jerking off to AVNs, doesn't matter.
Everybody in here has every right, to have different reasons to 'play' these things.
Whether it'd be for the Story, or simply to take the snake for a walk.
Nobody should be shamed, for how they decide to enjoy AVNs.
:coffee:
The interactivity of it is titillating. Not a lot of porn plots where you corrupt 12 girls who move into your hotel. I enjoy reading the plot leading up to, and during the sex scenes but unless a gallery unlocker is available I'm usually spamming left click and spacebar to speed through most dialogue. Weird thread to call someone a pervert, a game about fucking your daughters. Of course.
You gentlemen seem to have misunderstood what I said. So I apologise if I hurt anyone's feelings. I had no such intention.
The phrase "Monsieur knows how to pervert!" is a quote from the Marquis de Sade, which he used as praise.

All I wanted to say was that playing VN porn just for the sake of jerking off is, in my opinion, a bit unreasonable. VNs usually have a low porn/story ratio. But of course everyone has the right to play and fap whatever and however they want. Peace.

Same kind of argument from people that say they "read" playboy and penthouse for the articles and are disgusted by people that crank it to a naked woman's bosom. How dare we. I, for one, hope to goon one last time to Alison's butthole, but knowing my luck the "delayed release" to the 25th of Radiant's apparently finished Ch. 7 update, will get delayed again, and the world ends on the 26th. I've actually challenged myself to not jerk off for the past week in hopes I can build up a massive load for the update on the 25th. If the update releases I can release my release; if the world ends on the 26h, perhaps Jesus can see that I was a good boy for once and I have some salvation. Either way I win.
I never said that I was disgusted by the porn content in VN, on the contrary, I think it is a nice addition to the game. I just prioritise the story.
 
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