xert13

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Sep 24, 2023
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Damn, the jannies are out in full force today. I'll never understand zealously defending patreon scams. What causes this? Is it sunk cost?
It is not a ”scam” if you fall for it. I think there is frustration among some audience members the constant whining about Devs on a Pirate Site. Sure everyone may have an opinion or not understand why some may support such a Dev, but it is their money. Who cares?
 

Allenebs

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Oct 5, 2024
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what about setting the world record for crying & bitching about it taking too long for free stolen stuff get here
Whining about it taking so long w/o addressing the reasons its taking so long doesn't do shit. If I can say, "Hey, this is how you avoid this problem in the future," at least the criticism is constructive.

It really is a matter of professionalism. I haven't seen a single delay that would have been excusable if they were reporting that to their employer. Even digi.B's 3-4 months off, which led to an additional 2-3 months of delays is massively unacceptable. Bereavement grants 2 weeks off for immediate family. You start with 4 weeks PTO in jobs like this, with an additional week on average once every 5 years. Meaning 2 months off for the death of his mom is perfectly reasonable, and that's how long he turned off his Patreon. The OTHER FIVE or so months of delays, though? And that's the MOST excusable case of delays and it far exceeded 3x the time that would be acceptable.

Calling devs out for bs we know is directly impacting development and causing delays IS constructive. Whining at one dev bc the individual thinks the dev is spending too much time on Twitter? That's bs. For all you know, that dev spent the prior 12hrs working on the game. It took 27 days between Dev A reporting they have a days worth of renders to do and Dev B finally reporting he had received the last of the new renders. THAT is the type of behavior that should be called out. That's what we should be going to these devs and demanding gets changed. Those are the type of delays that, if you point out to their patrons on Patreon, will cause them to reconsider supporting the devs. When you attack the dev for how much time they spend on Twitter, the vast majority of their patrons will tune you the fuck out. So when you do bring forward these ACTUAL issues, they may have already blocked you and never hear about it.

Then again, the vast majority of people who visit this thread don't consider 27 days of wasted dev time to be an issue. It's the 30sec-2min it takes to retweet or write a tweet that they find an issue with, supposedly. And they wonder why nothing ever changes, no one ever pulls support. Despite being easily avoidable delays.
 
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