so got first chapter and next two in a year and 3 months and nearly a year later almost another one? Hope its the size of at least two of the other chapters. Always thought patreon should auto stop all payments if no progress is made for a year on projects and let people know they need resign up if they want to continue and why it was stopped.
- Thread starter 7767
- Start date
- Jun 16, 2017
- 7,264
- 8,043
Not where I live it isn't. For a rough estimate of the cost of things in this country, triple that and add half the result and you have the rough price of Gigabit Ethernet in my country. And that's just for the connection. Doesn't factor in TV or phones.
I work on telecomunications, I can assure you that 1 GB is 4,99 EUR on most plans for mobile. And read my comment again, I separated both mobile and Ethernet. Ethernet with 1GB is around 38-42 EUR.
Anyway, that's still cheaper than spending on Radiant. At least you get something.
- Jun 2, 2017
- 2,480
- 7,470
- Jan 26, 2021
- 6,889
- 21,585
For mobile that's expensive too.
I pay 10€ and have 30GB and the rest I don't use gets added to that the next month.
- Feb 26, 2022
- 308
- 510
- Such junk developer , everything is escuses for this , that he need the nasa to help him to find his files . they say. oh may oh july oh nov , ... pardon my english but this is T R A S H
when most developers more down to earth do 200 to 300 renders a month on their free time , after 2 years they get better qualityon their waor and all that stuf , but well guess those 1 k fanatics need thei medall for such faith on this .
- what will be the next excuse ? he broke a fingernail ? new wallpaper ? next update will be next year december 2022 . ...
- Dec 5, 2021
- 19
- 57
Not defending the other dev at all but everything Alorth is associated with takes needlessly long for minimal gain. Dude has like 10 games hes working on concurrently. Updates to his main game is like 15 min of new content per 6 months with recycled scenes.
- Sep 28, 2018
- 4,422
- 24,089
Why didn't Dammed bother to say anything about a delay until now? The "final" progress report was in March. They're well behind with or without Alorth's vacation. All that post says is they didn't do anything for a month...while not pausing payments.
I'm not saying Alorth didn't go on vacation or his laptop didn't work, but that's not a reason to not say anything about it until now and continue to take payments while nothing is being done.
Also, the gap between this wallpaper and May's wallpaper is about 5.5 weeks. Which is 2 weeks longer than Alorth's vacation, they've had plenty of time to make up for the delay and to inform their fans.
It makes me wonder how many times this type of thing has happened and they didn't say anything.
I'm not saying Alorth didn't go on vacation or his laptop didn't work, but that's not a reason to not say anything about it until now and continue to take payments while nothing is being done.
Also, the gap between this wallpaper and May's wallpaper is about 5.5 weeks. Which is 2 weeks longer than Alorth's vacation, they've had plenty of time to make up for the delay and to inform their fans.
It makes me wonder how many times this type of thing has happened and they didn't say anything.
- May 9, 2019
- 4,951
- 16,692
The real question is why are people still getting surprised about this?
It was like this since day 1.
- Jan 26, 2021
- 6,889
- 21,585
*Whistles quietly in the corner.*
Thus what I relayed days ago...
Thus what I relayed days ago...
- Jul 5, 2021
- 3,685
- 6,677
Depends on whether you believe the story and his shill.
- Jan 24, 2018
- 134
- 301
At least the author of WVM was transparent though, as far as I can remember. Been a while since that game saw the light of day too, but at least they gave us something.
This gotta me curious. Alorth, from a portuguese guy to another... Hello there!! , whoever you are. Always good to see another one here
- Aug 12, 2017
- 922
- 2,711
So now the meme joke is that Portugal doesn't have good connection? Well, at least Alorth wasn't bit by a shark in Algarve.
Good thing in the US, Dammed has all the internet he needs to make the game.
Good thing in the US, Dammed has all the internet he needs to make the game.
We have 5G and 200MB/s or more speed connection with cable. WIth wifi on my laptop i download torrents with 21.1 mb/s speed sometimes.
We may suck at many things, but not in terms of net speed. Of course, rural villages get shit. But, well, same as any place i guess
- Sep 27, 2017
- 905
- 2,899
Where is the tag for which we all are waiting for and which is deserved by this game as no other?
- Jul 7, 2017
- 70
- 205
From Alorth on Discord replying to why it's taking long.
"You have all the right to voice your opinion, we won't kick you as long as you're not being disrespectful or your actions are viewed as such. It's true that we all agree that the update is taking way too long, not just the players but even us developers. The reasons for that is a big mixture... we are not only developers but also normal people, we also have family and like to play games sometimes... that means that as humans we can sometimes also get a bit lazy. On the other hand though, the update is bigger than the other ones and the branching also is a pain in the ass as it goes for the coding which would have initially taken longer one way or another, but of course not this much. Now it's true that the last month, we had planned to get the update out, but we had some inconveniences. Sorry that the waiting time is dissapointing, there isn't something we can do to turn back time... but we are already grinding the update out as fast as we can now. It looks to me like, people believe we developers are some special living creature that has no needs but just work. All the developers that are out there and have short update times, they are giving all of their free time into development, putting it on first place and everything else second. It's costing them everything, like it cost to me in the past. I used to have updates every 2 months, but I almost broke up with my gf because I had 0 time for her or other stuff. I worked, ate and sleept, nothing else, 0 playing games or so. Not to mention I even have a dog that I have to walk and give some attention. There are developers that even pass away, because they are all the time only working and being stressed about it. One of the reasons things slowed down on first place was due to health issues coming from overworking myself in the past. So to put it short, I'm taking it slower for my own good at moment and I even hired a artist to help me. You might think that it should be faster if I hire someone, but that's wrong thinking... the few artists that can do close to my quality work that I can hire, take way more time than I do with artwork, so it's not making up for me doing less work. I could hire more artists, but imagine, just for example, if i would hire any other developer out there... how drastically the quality of the game visuals would change... The visual quality is not a fixed thing of this engine, so not anyone can do it, even if they have 5 years experience with it, it might not be enough if they lack the understanding of the engine. If some genie would grant me a wish, and say... You can pick one developer, to work for you for free for the visuals so pick one... I would say, fuck it, no thanks... There wouldn't be a single one around I could pick for my own games unless I teach them for at least half a year and there are no exceptions. I don't want to seem like a high nose or something, but I'm being realistic. I was like everyone else at start, but I started to work in a different way, which made such a huge difference in quality and any other way won't be the same. Not everyone can overcome a huge wall alone... Don't get me wrong, there are good developers out there which have nice quality visuals and use the same engine, but this is also about consistency of the games and the more someone is used to work one way, the harder it is for that person to change his ways."
"You have all the right to voice your opinion, we won't kick you as long as you're not being disrespectful or your actions are viewed as such. It's true that we all agree that the update is taking way too long, not just the players but even us developers. The reasons for that is a big mixture... we are not only developers but also normal people, we also have family and like to play games sometimes... that means that as humans we can sometimes also get a bit lazy. On the other hand though, the update is bigger than the other ones and the branching also is a pain in the ass as it goes for the coding which would have initially taken longer one way or another, but of course not this much. Now it's true that the last month, we had planned to get the update out, but we had some inconveniences. Sorry that the waiting time is dissapointing, there isn't something we can do to turn back time... but we are already grinding the update out as fast as we can now. It looks to me like, people believe we developers are some special living creature that has no needs but just work. All the developers that are out there and have short update times, they are giving all of their free time into development, putting it on first place and everything else second. It's costing them everything, like it cost to me in the past. I used to have updates every 2 months, but I almost broke up with my gf because I had 0 time for her or other stuff. I worked, ate and sleept, nothing else, 0 playing games or so. Not to mention I even have a dog that I have to walk and give some attention. There are developers that even pass away, because they are all the time only working and being stressed about it. One of the reasons things slowed down on first place was due to health issues coming from overworking myself in the past. So to put it short, I'm taking it slower for my own good at moment and I even hired a artist to help me. You might think that it should be faster if I hire someone, but that's wrong thinking... the few artists that can do close to my quality work that I can hire, take way more time than I do with artwork, so it's not making up for me doing less work. I could hire more artists, but imagine, just for example, if i would hire any other developer out there... how drastically the quality of the game visuals would change... The visual quality is not a fixed thing of this engine, so not anyone can do it, even if they have 5 years experience with it, it might not be enough if they lack the understanding of the engine. If some genie would grant me a wish, and say... You can pick one developer, to work for you for free for the visuals so pick one... I would say, fuck it, no thanks... There wouldn't be a single one around I could pick for my own games unless I teach them for at least half a year and there are no exceptions. I don't want to seem like a high nose or something, but I'm being realistic. I was like everyone else at start, but I started to work in a different way, which made such a huge difference in quality and any other way won't be the same. Not everyone can overcome a huge wall alone... Don't get me wrong, there are good developers out there which have nice quality visuals and use the same engine, but this is also about consistency of the games and the more someone is used to work one way, the harder it is for that person to change his ways."