Rape Day?

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The Developer did give a masterclass on gaming the system for free publicity. Will this game bring an unneeded type of attention to Adult game Developers and maybe even sites like F95. It defiantly has raddled some cages that's for sure. On the plus side may make Incest games look tame in comparison.
 
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TowerCrow

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Banning an obvious troll is hardly censorship. Free speech means that you can say what you want to say but you're also responsible for the consequences. Free speech does not give you a free pass on a private platform to do anything you want to. The goal of Rape Day was to provoke a public outcry on both ends of the outrage culture. Clearly, it worked, since everyone got triggered from muh soggy knees SJWs to pro-free speech slacktivists.
 

RedAISkye

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Banning an obvious troll is hardly censorship. Free speech means that you can say what you want to say but you're also responsible for the consequences. Free speech does not give you a free pass on a private platform to do anything you want to. The goal of Rape Day was to provoke a public outcry on both ends of the outrage culture. Clearly, it worked, since everyone got triggered from muh soggy knees SJWs to pro-free speech slacktivists.
I wasn't saying Steam banning the game was censorship. That is just Steam being inconsistent with their policy and it isn't even the first time, they've done this many times and most of the games being visual novels. By censorship, I was referring it to the people advocating to make such types of games immoral and illegal which clearly is a censorship of artistic creativity. Free speech means the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. Iincitement, true threats, and fighting words isn't protected under freedom of speech as exceptions have been made for speech that violates the legal rights of others, or because of compelling governmental interests.
 

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I wasn't really directing that at you, @RedEyedRocker. And I agree, they've been inconsistent in applying their rules. But so is every major platform ever with a few rare exceptions. Rules are always vague so they can ban who they want to ban.

Still, Rape Day is not the right hill to die on. I'm for free speech, always. But I won't defend this game, it has no value, it was not made for adult game fans. It probably has hurt the industry more than it helped.
 

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I wasn't saying Steam banning the game was censorship. That is just Steam being inconsistent with their policy and it isn't even the first time, they've done this many times and most of the games being visual novels. By censorship, I was referring it to the people advocating to make such types of games immoral and illegal which clearly is a censorship of artistic creativity. Free speech means the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. Iincitement, true threats, and fighting words isn't protected under freedom of speech as exceptions have been made for speech that violates the legal rights of others, or because of compelling governmental interests.
The main thing that got it taken down was the wide media coverage stirring it up and a culture that these days rewards people for taking a side without hearing or caring to hear others opinions and having a knee jerk reaction to anything with trigger words in it. My stance has always been if you don't like it avoid it. No one is forcing you to look at it or play it.
 
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The main thing that got it taken down was the wide media coverage stirring it up and a culture that these days rewards people for taking a side without hearing or caring to hear others opinions and having a knee jerk reaction to anything with trigger words in it. My stance has always been if you don't like it avoid it. No one is forcing you to look at it or play it.
This is the correct response, but the people advocating against it are ideologues and pawns of ideologues. They don't agree with it so they want it banned, they don't see it as a free market issue, but cultivation theory, they believe the content is sinful and will corrupt the mind.

If that sounds pathetic, it's because it is, along with it's supporters.

Like I said initially, people in big brother states are exempt from this(and prior) comments.
 
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I've played quite a few adult games and rapeday was just crap. The choices were bad and intentionally messed up and the game felt short and didn't seem to have a pay off if that makes sense. This game reminds me of that murder rampage game that drew alot of attention but turned out to be crap.
 
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As someone who enjoys the genre while recognizing it's flaws, I don't want something like Rape Day to representative of the adult visual novels. I'd rather have something like Depraved Awakening or some other game that's actually making an effort. It's hard for me to give a shit if something like Rape Day is on Steam. At the same time, there are thousands of low effort craptastic non-adult games on Steam. Steam has also removed games for tasteless or offensive violence, so it's not unprecedented. Do I think Rape Day should be able to exist in some dark corner of Steam? I guess so. Does it bother me that it can't? Not really.
 

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I don't think that game was the real deal. It was Steam's policy because there are lots of people who uses Steam. It's like downloading a rape scene into YouTube, making it kinda viral and expect good results. IF you ask me, it's shitty for adult visual novels because there are lots of good ones... I hope that we can delete this black mark xd
 

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I mean, as long as adult games that are actually good and made by devs who actually care about what they are making can pass the Steam policy I don't see what the big deal is. Sounds like a shit game that purposely tried to stir the controversy pot got kicked off the platform, nothing to get our knickers in a knot about.
 

Avaron1974

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It's the game that now has the British Government looking at Steam.



Simply put, the dev of Rape Day has pretty much fucked over the chances of adult games being a full time fixture on Steam and people defended him.

They gave an inch of rope and that dev took enough to hang the whole fucking thing.
 

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It's the game that now has the British Government looking at Steam.



Simply put, the dev of Rape Day has pretty much fucked over the chances of adult games being a full time fixture on Steam and people defended him.

They gave an inch of rope and that dev took enough to hang the whole fucking thing.
This is why we can't have nice things.
 

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For what it's worth, Steam definitely only removed the game because of the bad press they were getting, Rape Day would still be up if no one had made an issue out of it. That said, why would anyone with anything even remotely resembling intelligence would defend this game and call it's removal "censorship" and the "erosion of freedom of speech" is incomprehensible to me. Plus I can't help but notice that said words and phrases only happens when truly vile games get removed. as it is, I'm hoping that "Rape Day" fades into the total obscurity it deserves, along with the other "censored" games like Aids simulator, and Hatred.
 
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RedAISkye

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For what it's worth, Steam definitely only removed the game because of the bad press they were getting, Rape Day would still be up if no one had made an issue out of it. That said, why would anyone with anything even remotely resembling intelligence would defend this game and call it's removal "censorship" and the "erosion of freedom of speech" is incomprehensible to me.
No one is defending the game specifically. People are just pointing out the fact that Steam is being inconsistent with their policy and it isn't even the first time, they've done this many times and most of the games being visual novels. By censorship, They're referring it to the people advocating to make such types of games immoral and illegal which clearly is a censorship of artistic creativity.

Plus I can't help but notice that said words and phrases only happens when truly vile games get removed. as it is, I'm hoping that "Rape Day" fades into the total obscurity it deserves, along with the other "censored" games like Aids simulator, and Hatred.
That's because only "truly vile" games get attention from the media and SJWs starts advocating to censor it. In the past, people have advocated to censor games like GTA as well, I'll assume you know how it ended.
 

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No one is defending the game specifically. People are just pointing out the fact that Steam is being inconsistent with their policy and it isn't even the first time, they've done this many times and most of the games being visual novels. By censorship, They're referring it to the people advocating to make such types of games immoral and illegal which clearly is a censorship of artistic creativity.

As far as I can tell there are three cases where Steam bans a game, 1) It violates the TOS ex. Achievement Games. 2) It was generating bad press, ex. Rape day. 3) The developers were being complete and total fucking idiots ex. Digital Homicide, keep in mind that there's definitely some overlap between these three examples so it's really not all that inconsistent.
That's because only "truly vile" games get attention from the media and SJWs starts advocating to censor it. In the past, people have advocated to censor games like GTA as well, I'll assume you know how it ended.
You mean the time that BOTH sides of the political aisle wanted to ban it because they thought it would score them points with their constituents? You'll also notice that like everything else politicians have tried to ban that isn't straight up criminal went absolutely nowhere, plus that example is piss poor since at that point esrb was already in effect specifically to serve as self-regulation. Kind of like y'know removing a game called "Rape Day" in an asinine attempt to make up for the fact that they auto approve any dev who ponies up the cash.
 

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I already posted about my stance about this game being removed from Steam, so i won´t post again, but keep this in mind, the game is gone yet despite this victory the SJWs activists keep pushing against steam:

 

The-Tactician

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It's the game that now has the British Government looking at Steam.

Simply put, the dev of Rape Day has pretty much fucked over the chances of adult games being a full time fixture on Steam and people defended him.

They gave an inch of rope and that dev took enough to hang the whole fucking thing.
I find it more disturbing that this poster is blaming the developer -- who didn't break any rules -- rather than Valve for contradicting their own stance and doing what they said they wouldn't do.

The game is called "Rape Day" but if anyone thinks no one else can or will be targeted because they don't have a more explicit title is deluding themselves. A snowflake or resetera user can stumble upon any game and sound off the feminist alarm and then wolves will be at your door, and then you will see people telling you it's your fault for having something that triggered a sex negative feminist in a porn game.

Hopefully the outspoken censors tell everyone not to defend them and blame themselves for putting "offensive content" in their games if they find themselves the target of a hate mob. Though, it would make for a very good fable of why consistent principles are important.
 

Avaron1974

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I find it more disturbing that this poster is blaming the developer -- who didn't break any rules -- rather than Valve for contradicting their own stance and doing what they said they wouldn't do.
Why would I blame Valve for removing a game called Rape Day from a platform used by families?

Like I said, they started allowing adult games then one idiot comes along and ruins it for everyone.

It's common fucking sense, well, obviously not so common.
 

The-Tactician

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Why would I blame Valve for removing a game called Rape Day from a platform used by families?
What does families have to do with a game that was behind an age gate?

Like I said, they started allowing adult games then one idiot comes along and ruins it for everyone.
So you mention families and in the next sentence you mention that adult games were allowed?

Valve didn't change their policy on adult games, they are still there. They explicitly said this is reactionary, Rape Day or the dev didn't "ruin" anything. I really hope someone can enlighten me on why the pro censorship side of the thread keeps throwing out one conspiratard theory after the other.

It's common fucking sense, well, obviously not so common.
I'll let you have this one. The earth being flat is "common sense" on some forums and there seems to be a lot of people here who seem to have issues comprehending anything Valve has actually said. So there might be a group of people without the cognitive ability to understand this isn't a policy change.
 
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