thevoid089

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I wouldn't say that I hate it, but I'm definitely disappointed. Having two Nāgas would have made for an interesting plot. How would they react to each other? What's their relationship like? What ambitions do they have?

I started playing v. 4.3 with a clear plan in mind: Keep the elves alive and happy, eat the rest. You don't need wolfmen or mercenaries if you got an army of abominations, lol.
Yeah! Would be fun to have another Naga act as Malice's twin, and even better if Malice have the red color and that Naga have the blue color as opposite. Maybe we should suggest that idea to Dev and wait for his reply
 

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I wonder why Steam prices vary from 5$ (for me) to 28 for some other commenters. I'm pretty sure devs wouldn't set different prices for every other country.
 

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Rejoice people who enjoy the cat sisters they truly got some development! The options while having them as consorts were pretty vast with a bunch of different choices on how to handle them. Also the Dynamic between the sisters and Dragon were really well done Even a pretty interesting scene before you attack Pale rock setting up some Drama. The Twins offer one of the better Consort option.


Hope going to Steam brought more awareness and support to the project. It was a controversial decision But as long as it doesn't affect The artistic view I'm fine with it. Which as the dev stated it wont so I Wouldn't worry to much on that front.


My thoughts on the Naga development
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I highly agree on this, I really love Heloise and her arc with MC and Malice it will be a really good idea to keep all contents that revolves around MC, Malice and Heloise to be left to them and not give it to Valzira and just create a new story for Valzira and MC and maybe put a 2nd Naga on the mix? Idk, But would really like for the devs to keep Heloise, MC and Malice arc to themselves and not give it to another character
 
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thevoid089

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I highly agree on this, I really love Heloise and her arc with MC and Malice it will be a really good idea to keep all contents that revolves around MC, Malice and Heloise to be left to them and not give it to Valzira and just create a new story for Valzira and MC and maybe put a 2nd Naga on the mix? Idk, But would really like for the devs to keep Heloise, MC and Malice arc to themselves and not give it to another character
Agree! Malice should only be Helios child and Valzira's Naga child should look much more different, not just that but both should have their own story arc like you said so players won't be confuse
 

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So we can't have 2 Nagas at the same time? :cry:

No offense to the Valzira fans out there or the Dev but her character is basically useless again for me. I love my Heloise way too much to give up our Malice for Valzira's. Heloise's story is written so well because of that layer on top right there and as a lover of her character it would take too much from her and Malice(the 2nd one is my opinion). Valzira's doesn't have the same effect for me as her story wasn't all that developed. Atleast in it's current state. So if i had to choose it would always be Heloise until Valzira story is written well enough.

Don't get me wrong though. I can kind of see why there isn't 2 because only a singular Malice was intended to be factored in the story. It would get out of hand with 2 or 3 of them(Maelys is inevitable).
 
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Nah, she apparently aborted Val's child, lol.
Still brutal lol. But does that mean if Val is pregnant and Heloise not, the child will still be same Malice?

No, you got the lover correct but the rest are incorrect. The things is he was her bodyguard who loved her, but due to the pale convocations meddling she would always be a prisoner of sorts and this is where she performed a ritual that melded both him and an essence/soul offered by the Burning king( not to be confused with the futa devil she's a demon and a servant to the burning king) which created the Dragon/MC.

She was never after power for the sake of power but a home and her birth right which was taken from her, as a result she naively barged into the royal court room thinking she would be given her rights if she had somehow got a dragon, now this is weak writing as you'd have to be utterly daft or desperate and naive to have grown in politics and not know that you could be back stabbed which doesn't fit Adeline character, also she is hiding somethings from us by not telling us some details of the Pale convocation.

The Pale convocations is clearly the hidden Main Antagonist of this story as the higher ups did a vatican move and has meddled into the affairs of the both the divine and mortal affairs by slaying all the burning kings children(the dragons) and corrupting the kingdoms they governed.
Princess clearly has some ulterior motivation, she is way too perfect to be true. "yes you can have your harem", "yes I will take care of your Naga-daughter", "I will tolerate your consort", "yes I will keep sure while you sleep the throne remains safe" and so on. Even if she loves the MC, there should be some limits she is not ready to tolerate, in other words MC is a stepping stone. She is way too confident that she will succeed eventually, and out rightly rejected she knew what Pale Convocation is. As you mentioned the Burning King, he may be another grand schemer and Princess is his pawn/ally.

Yeah, her reasoning for rushing to the throne room makes no sense. However, you just can't hide a dragon can you? For me her best option would be to rush immediately to the throne room instead of hiding. Had she not done that Regent's men would have butchered them in her bed room and had they failed the Huntress would have finished the job.


Right action - wrong reasons.

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Royal families can be such a mess. As there is only one throne, there can be only one ruler. Princess is quite ambitious, so to her a sister is nothing less than a thread. Of course, when you are deemed inferior due to birth, you will become bittern and nasty person ready to use all kind of underhand methods to gain relevancy - the only thing you should not do to become respected.

I wonder why Steam prices vary from 5$ (for me) to 28 for some other commenters. I'm pretty sure devs wouldn't set different prices for every other country.
Do you use VPN? I might imagine in some poorer country the price is different.
 

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So we can't have 2 Nagas at the same time? :cry:

No offense to the Valzira fans out there or the Dev but her character is basically useless again for me. I love my Heloise way too much to give up our Malice for Valzira's. Heloise's story is written so well because of that layer on top right there and as a lover of her character it would take too much from her and Malice(the 2nd one is my opinion). Valzira's doesn't have the same effect for me as her story wasn't all that developed. Atleast in it's current state. So if i had to choose it would always be Heloise until Valzira story is written well enough.

Don't get me wrong though. I can kind of see why there isn't 2 because only a singular Malice was intended to be factored in the story. It would get out of hand with 2 or 3 of them(Maelys is inevitable).
They might have cut the plot short for now. As the characters multiply so does complexity, and even now this game has too many plotholes and not well written scenes. For example only after meeting the Princess you are able to ask some basic questions regarding the world, this is something you should have been able to do since the beginning. The main priority of team Ravager is to get first complete version of game out, only then they can expand the existing setting. By all like hood the final Arch will be massive, as it will cover ruling, new enemies and all old characters. Give them time and perhaps not other Nagas will be aborted ;)
 
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Do you use VPN? I might imagine in some poorer country the price is different.
No VPN. I don't know much about Steam pricing policies, there might be some coefficients for different countries, but again I doubt it can impact prices enough to create nearly 6 times difference
 

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I wonder why Steam prices vary from 5$ (for me) to 28 for some other commenters. I'm pretty sure devs wouldn't set different prices for every other country.
Because there are TWO games called Ravager.

The good one (15$ USD):
The bad one (5$ USD):
 
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I'm not an economist, but I guess that Steam prices depend on purchasing power? For example, Ravager is priced at 15 US-$, but I paid €12.49., ca. £11.00.

I just tested it via VPN, switched it to a Ukrainian server. In Ukraine, it costs 229₴ = €7.17 = $8.52 = £6.14. There are definitely regional price differences.

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Wait, there are people who don't flame broil the princess first chance they get? Weird.

I haven't played the update but would assume that one reason for the Heloïse/Valzira doubling is so players who sacrifice one of them to appease their lair faction (Heloïse to the demons, Valzira to the wizard) can still get Malice regardless.
 

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I'm not an economist, but I guess that Steam prices depend on purchasing power? For example, Ravager is priced at 15 US-$, but I paid €12.49., ca. £11.00.

I just tested it via VPN, switched it to a Ukrainian server. In Ukraine, it costs 229₴ = €7.17 = $8.52 = £6.14. There are definitely regional price differences.
Yes Steam does that for all games, in Argentina it cost ARS 180 which is about 1 dollar
 

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Find it kinda funny how the money grubber Mina is easily the most vanilla relationship in the game. She starts with ulterior motives but grows to genuinely care about you and your conquest. Meanwhile the character you'd expect to be the most vanilla Marie is actually the most likely to be NTR'd. Which is fine for me since I personally find Mina to be the best girl in the game.

Also question, can you transfer your save from the public version to the steam version?
 
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The the Guy

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I also hate the route they took here, I really would have loved my elf harem but damn they messed up Valzira's route. I would have really enjoyed taking her down a notch and plus she also has a sweet side like Heloise. Writers being lazy here and trying to rush the story instead of exporing each character properly.
I get this and if they did go with the option of having 3 nagas they couldve made it an even more interesting concept. Like add a stat showing how affectionate you are with each and if it gets too low at the end of act 4 the one that was to low betrays you or hell one could have an oedipus complex and kills her mother and other consorts to have you.
 

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Don't get me wrong though. I can kind of see why there isn't 2 because only a singular Malice was intended to be factored in the story. It would get out of hand with 2 or 3 of them(Maelys is inevitable).
Honestly just not having an option to knock val up would be better then the way its been done in my opinion. Plus unless the end up turning val into heloise lite its just plane stupid to have malice be the same with val since val should be act completely different to that child based on what i can make out of her personality she would probably borderline abuse her naga.
 

SerHawkes

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So played through the Steam (Release)... Am I the only one here that feels like the start of act V is lacking? Sure it's nice to reconnect/put Adeline in her place/take her passionately but still I kinda expected more to be honest.

As for the possibility of having multiple abominations... I am kinda pissed. I want more. I would love a sibling for the little one. Curious how the relationship there could go. Naturally I feel like Malice would be the more dominant/"alpha" among her possible sibling, with perhaps a different-submissive sibling in kind? Either way... kinda not happy with having to choose which elfy to bear the beginnings of a new age (it ain't a cataclysm in my books) Naturally though, I'm picking my Elfy waifu Helo and her sister Maelsy.
 

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I honestly appreciate the decision to say we don't get multiple Naga daughters. The game doesn't need more characters. Focusing on the ones we have already seems like the right call to me, even if in a perfect world it would be great to have three snek babies with fully fleshed out personalities and relationships. That's a lot to ask though given how none of the characters have enough content so far. One daughter with more scenes is better than three with less in my opinion.

I think this direction with a few improvements could work out really well. There is already the basics of a 'raising malice' system, but it would be nice for the mother to have a little bit more of an effect than it currently does. Slight differences in the art would be good too (changing the eye/marking colour, or hair, or having a different outfit wouldn't be anywhere near as much work as a new character). I'm sure we'll get some more Malice events when we get the inevitable Maelyse as her mother option though, so I'll hold out hope for something like this to be implemented then.
 

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The game doesn't need more characters
Exactly this. There's already plenty of characters, adding two more that were never planned for would just serve to slow down development as work has to be diverted away from fleshing out the existing characters and adding new art, writing, and voice lines for the new nagas. One is plenty. I do wish that they handled it a bit better though, even just inexplicably not letting the other elves get pregnant once you have knocked up one would have sat better with me than Malice just going "Well yes, but actually no" when you knock up another elf.
 
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