VN Ren'Py Ravager [v5.3.0] [4MinuteWarning]

[thebladeofwar]

I am really annoyed that you had to choose 1 wife. you can literally declare yourself to be a god.
But you can't decide to have polygamy.

you can.

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I agree with you. Out of the cast (currently), marriage only has benefits to the three selections. Princess gets to be queen, Darja get's to be a real mother of dragons, and Malice... well giving the character power is something very much up her ally. But if you take Malice as nutral and you dislike the princess as I do, really the only option is Darja just to make her happy. Though I agree with you, the game should be "STFU IM A DRAGON I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT!" power fantasy, if they are forcing you to pick at least make the options sort of coincide with one another. You could pick Malice AND give the Warlock and Darja the Princess. Darja just needs a dragon baby maker, she really doesn't need a crown.

It just seems the dev is forcing a lot of conflict in a game that, at least to me, is most fun as a power trip.

 

[thebladeofwar]

Yeah, I don't think the Warlock joins you unless you give him Val, which I am now testing to see if you have any choice to still aid Darja without him being on the council.

 

[skölbrot]

Is Heloise not a marryable option? How come? (Dropped off this game for a while waiting for Act V to finish.)

Now while I cant discount further marriage possibilities coming up in the future, he marriage canidate seems directly tied with becoming queen. Now Helois is too smart to be placated by titles and platitutes, she recognize the trap inherent in the position and says as much when pressed about why she doesn't want to be your queen.

Now the princess wants it as she sees it as her birthfright, not to mention her entire line was specifically bred for this purpose. Darja wants it to fulfill her fantasy and she is generally room temperature IQ.
Lastly there is Malice who seems in it to fuck about with others, in part because she seems to wish to usurp the princess in her role as your mae, but again she could also just be fucking with you too here.

 

[harem.king]

It just seems the dev is forcing a lot of conflict in a game that, at least to me, is most fun as a power trip.

Dev has a fetish for "hard men making hard choices while hard" thing.
I get the girls wanting to be "first wife". But the way it is handled is ridiculous.

Actually to begin with, you are forced to vore waifus for power (despite lorewise you should be able to vore rando bandits instead).
Or hand waifus over to be gangraped to somehow magically let your minions conquer more territory.
Both actions delete the waifu from the game after a single scene.

So they are less about catering to those fetishes and more about forcing "hard choices"
The vore scene is not even shown graphically, you just get blinking red screen.

The only way to avoid waifu attrition via vore and gangrape is to activate god mode.
The recent nonsense with the queen spot is just more of the same. only this time we don't have god mode to bail us out of it.
With god mod, it can be at time a fun power fantasy of playing a dragon.
Without god mod... you have to be a hardcore masochist to play this.

 

[thebladeofwar]

Dev has a fetish for "hard men making hard choices while hard" thing.
I get the girls wanting to be "first wife". But the way it is handled is ridiculous.

Actually to begin with, you are forced to vore waifus for power (despite lorewise you should be able to vore rando bandits instead).
Or hand waifus over to be gangraped to somehow magically let your minions conquer more territory.
Both actions delete the waifu from the game after a single scene.

So they are less about catering to those fetishes and more about forcing "hard choices"
The vore scene is not even shown graphically, you just get blinking red screen.

The only way to avoid waifu attrition via vore and gangrape is to activate god mode.
The recent nonsense with the queen spot is just more of the same. only this time we don't have god mode to bail us out of it.
With god mod, it can be at time a fun power fantasy of playing a dragon.
Without god mod... you have to be a hardcore masochist to play this.

I feel that isn't the intention right now. I have a feeling even 10 years down the line the dev will be adding things to part 1. That being said, even if that is the intent of the dev, though I agree with you, it sucks, is still a game. If the dev wants the player to make hard decisions and pick a singular waifu or something to that extent, it's his right. It isn't fun for me, probably not you too, but if that's the goal, gotta give him the option.

I personally think all options should be available, at least with cheats.

Im just saying currently there is a blantant everyone wins situations. Malice becomes queen and the princess is given to the warlock and Darjha to make a dragon broodmother and a cool new cryptid to add a new harem path.

 

[Cerneu]

Without god mod... you have to be a hardcore masochist to play this.

It's masochism only if you're Mr. Harem King.

I don't care about the entire cast, so I'm fine with sacrificing some of them.

 

[Birdnman993]

I haven't followed this story for a long time because I wanted it to have more content and I hope to resume it when it's finished, but how is that the dragon that eats the waifus WTF?

Can someone explain to me? is it mandatory?

 

[Decathect]

Without god mod... you have to be a hardcore masochist to play this.

Thats a pretty loaded take. What makes replaying this so unique is the choices and deals you make to negotiate your way through the game and the desired end. You give so you can take. You simply want to have your cake and eat it too, wholly unappreciative of the intricate narrative of actually making choices with actual consequences.

The cheat mode is there for just such a reason, but then you might as well be playing a kinetic novel.

you are forced to vore waifus for power (despite lorewise you should be able to vore rando bandits instead).
The only way to avoid waifu attrition via vore and gangrape is to activate god mode.

Thats just not true. It is entirely possible to not gift or eat a single girl and still take over the kingdom without destroying or sacrificing any part of it. Ive done it multiple times with all 3 lairs, though the mine is by far the easiest. Im willing to bet you havent even tried exploring variations of the possible paths, if you can really claim the PC is forced to eat or hand over girls. So you've picked the lazy option of simply cheating instead.

Regarding what you claim should be "lorewise" afforded to the dragon, well, its wrong. You dont start off as a dragon. You go through the stages of being a hatchling, then a whelp, followed by a drake, before you actually become a dragon in its truest sense. And thus it is unreasonable to expect tackling bandit groups as easy as cattle or lone girls.

They could've made the game a straight line with the PC being nigh-invincible (IE god mode), regardless of circumstances. That would've been the easy way to go about it.

It is the introduction of the dark fantasy mode that is actually more impressive, as it involves so much more work to be woven into the game and confers a massive amount of agency onto the player's decisions and their consequences, going far beyond what is generally expected of a spank-game.

how is that the dragon that eats the waifus WTF?
Can someone explain to me? is it mandatory?

No, you can have your desired outcomes without letting go of a single girl, you just have to know where, how and what to do in order to maximize stat points.
Eating the girls only grants you strength, which is the *absolute* worst way to make use of them. You only need 4 strength for the entire game and I end up with 7, never eating any girls. Literally every action other than eating them is infinitely more beneficial.

 

[harem.king]

I haven't followed this story for a long time because I wanted it to have more content and I hope to resume it when it's finished, but how is that the dragon that eats the waifus WTF?

Can someone explain to me? is it mandatory?

The game gives you the choice to just kill and eat almost every waifus.
There is not even a vore scene. just flickering red lights.
This makes your dragon stronger, which you desperately need if you are not playing in godmode.

As of the latest version, the moment you click new game you get this


Picking "power fantasy" means your stats are effectively infinite.
so you gain nothing from voring waifus.
Nor do you gain anything from gifting them to minion packs to be gangraped.
You only do those options if it is your fetish.

Although if it is your fetish you will be disappointed. what with the gangrapes being one and done, and the vore being just flickering screen.

Last time I tried dark fantasy mode I found both to be necessary. But I have only played on power fantasy mode for a long time now.

Thats a pretty loaded take. What makes replaying this so unique is the choices and deals you make to negotiate your way through the game and the desired end.

I disagree, what makes it unique is that you are playing a dragon

 

[Decathect]

The game gives you the choice to just kill and eat almost every waifus, which you desperately need if you are not playing in godmode.

Please refrain from excusing your blatant lazynes, and lack of actual game knowledge in order to present your lies as facts.

Or is that expecting too much from one who is too lazy to even read beyond the first sentence of the post he responds to.

 

[Nijinda Futatama]

These are overexaggerations. There are other ways to gain strength and other things you can eat (cattle for instance, but that's not the only example). You are never forced to vore girls and giving them up to lair factions can be avoided by optimal gameplay. That said there isn't too much wiggle room with optimal gameplay, if you miss the mark there aren't a lot of ways to preserve a full harem without sacrificing something in some way (again doesn't have to be vore, it could be just losing the girl from your harem or making someone unhappy). This is a game that can be quite difficult to achieve what you want without a walkthrough to help you, you could look at that as a positive or negative.

 

[Ntrsugar]

C

Thats a pretty loaded take. What makes replaying this so unique is the choices and deals you make to negotiate your way through the game and the desired end. You give so you can take. You simply want to have your cake and eat it too, wholly unappreciative of the intricate narrative of actually making choices with actual consequences.

The cheat mode is there for just such a reason, but then you might as well be playing a kinetic novel.


Thats just not true. It is entirely possible to not gift or eat a single girl and still take over the kingdom without destroying or sacrificing any part of it. Ive done it multiple times with all 3 lairs, though the mine is by far the easiest. Im willing to bet you havent even tried exploring variations of the possible paths, if you can really claim the PC is forced to eat or hand over girls. So you've picked the lazy option of simply cheating instead.

Regarding what you claim should be "lorewise" afforded to the dragon, well, its wrong. You dont start off as a dragon. You go through the stages of being a hatchling, then a whelp, followed by a drake, before you actually become a dragon in its truest sense. And thus it is unreasonable to expect tackling bandit groups as easy as cattle or lone girls.

They could've made the game a straight line with the PC being nigh-invincible (IE god mode), regardless of circumstances. That would've been the easy way to go about it.

It is the introduction of the dark fantasy mode that is actually more impressive, as it involves so much more work to be woven into the game and confers a massive amount of agency onto the player's decisions and their consequences, going far beyond what is generally expected of a spank-game.


No, you can have your desired outcomes without letting go of a single girl, you just have to know where, how and what to do in order to maximize stat points.
Eating the girls only grants you strength, which is the *absolute* worst way to make use of them. You only need 4 strength for the entire game and I end up with 7, never eating any girls. Literally every action other than eating them is infinitely more beneficial.

Can you please tell me how to get more power without eating & sacrificing the girls ?
I get killed by Maelys when she attacks my Den.
Your help will be appreciated.

 

[jahall]

I haven't followed this story for a long time because I wanted it to have more content and I hope to resume it when it's finished, but how is that the dragon that eats the waifus WTF?

Can someone explain to me? is it mandatory?

No. I've not eaten a single waifu.

 

[jahall]

C

Can you please tell me how to get more power without eating & sacrificing the girls ?
I get killed by Maelys when she attacks my Den.
Your help will be appreciated.

I suggest you look at the walkthrough. I can't remember exactly what I did to avoid being killed by Maelys, but I do recall that an important component was having

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[CookieCutter69]

Good game. Will come back to this when more routes are done.

 

[Ntrsugar]

I suggest you look at the walkthrough. I can't remember exactly what I did to avoid being killed by Maelys, but I do recall that an important component was having

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Wait , Centaurs , rescue who ?
Till I 1st encounter Maelys , that is when she Attacks my liar , I haven't met her once before.
Also there are no centaurs that I can think of .
Where are these Centaurs ?

 

[Simon_mckey]

Wait , Centaurs , rescue who ?
Till I 1st encounter Maelys , that is when she Attacks my liar , I haven't met her once before.
Also there are no centaurs that I can think of .
Where are these Centaurs ?

Go to The highlands, visit forest and follw the scream.

 

[Decathect]

C

Can you please tell me how to get more power without eating & sacrificing the girls ?
I get killed by Maelys when she attacks my Den.
Your help will be appreciated.

Mapping maximized stats greatly depends on what lair you are going for. Sunken temple is by far the worst, while mine offers ALOT more gold potential and spire lets you capture valzira, without losing 1 day to scout her out and having to boost wolf morale beforehand.

Ways to increase strength, without eating the girls:
Prologue: nestle, mount, bite, spit. Then lunge+eat. This lets you start with 2str 1 charm 2 cruelty
ACT II: Lowlands, challenge naho, you fail and get 1str for it. Farmlands, talk to marie. Shelter yields mercy and charming, Pleasure gives potency and charming. Return to farms, eat cattle for another str point. Now you have 4 and that's all you actually need for the rest of the game.

ACT III: You will get an entirely redundant 5-th str point. From then on you can eat even more cattle at farm(6), eat mina's oxen(7), fight 10 men during Mina's scam event for another +1 (8), pay 1 gold to have your kobold attendant (make something for me-> sacrifice) boost you a whooping, if entirely useless +3 str.(11)
ACT: IV Yet another automatic and entirely useless +1str(12)

For maelys you need to know whether you want to have her as a slave or ally and go through her event in the forests *DURING ACT II*. Watch her get raped for a +slave point or save her via charm or str check for +ally point. This also makes it so that you need to succeed in only 1 check during the battle at the lair to win her over.

Here is a huge bunch of tips that should be of use for everyone:

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Thats all at the top of my head. I might add more if i remember something particularly useful.

 

[harem.king]

Mapping maximized stats

Mapping is the key word
In Darksouls you need to develop your skills and use them.
This game? there is zero skill, you just need to use a walkthrough.

Or you need to replay it so many times you write your own personal walkthrough.
There is absolutely zero indication of what is going to happen when you take an action. You are flying blind and randomly stumble into scene

There is absolutely no chance that any person could take the "correct" path without a walkthrough on his first playthrough because there is absolutely 0 wiggle room.

10) Always pick the kobolds as your army of choice for storming the capital. This lets you use the "ALL ABOARD" option which bypasses the only strength check in the game that is higher than 4 and actually matters.

This really is a perfect example of the issue.
These are not tips, they are steps in a walkthrough.

You are literally telling us that
> either you should have vored some girls for strength
> or you should have used a walkthrough to maximize strength and even then you won't have enough, but you can skip the check by using X army in Y battle and picking Z choice.
> don't worry about failing the other str checks. they don't matter

Then you have all those
> don't waste time doing X
> you must to Y and Z to maximize money
etc

Just off the top of your head there are a dozen hard rules of what you must do, in an exact manner, to thread the needle. And there are many more you did not list.

Thats just not true. It is entirely possible to not gift or eat a single girl and still take over the kingdom without destroying or sacrificing any part of it. Ive done it multiple times with all 3 lairs, though the mine is by far the easiest. Im willing to bet you havent even tried exploring variations of the possible paths, if you can really claim the PC is forced to eat or hand over girls. So you've picked the lazy option of simply cheating instead.

You would lose that bet.
I did try. It was not possible when I tried it.
Devs have since added many more scenes and options (and even acts) since I last attempted it.
So if we are to believe you, it is now "technically possible" but only if you fully map out the timeline.
This is an utterly obnoxious thing to suggest every player do.

So realistically, you are not supposed to play it as a game, you are supposed to use a walkthrough to turn this into a kinetic novel where all your choices are pre-made for you.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

you can.

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It's not vore. Malice just bites her in the neck and Adeline dies from poison.