VN Ren'Py Ravager [v5.3.0] [4MinuteWarning]

Rutonat · May 4, 2022

Hargan2 said:
It's been a while since I've actually let him live so I forget exactly what it was that made me be sure to always kill him. I think it was because he was going behind my back and talking to Naho and/or threatening her or something? That's a big no-no in my book. Only I get to interact with my pets. Either way, I have no use for a kobold that can think for itself anyway. Kobolds that can think for themselves might start having funny thoughts like "maybe I shouldn't let the dragon eat me" and that's simply not acceptable

Well, while he does get too ahead of himself, he doesn't do it to try to wreck your power. If anything, he's mainly overzealous in trying to be usefull and think ahead of what could help you without bothering you with questions every 5 minutes. It's pretty clear he loathes his kin for their simple mind and low intellect, so it seems pretty logical he'd try to show more initiative. The only thing is that he doesn't know what you're thinking, so he does with that he remembers from his previous master.
Basically, he's trying to get ahead of potential problems, but doesn't really do a good job because he doesn't know what you intend in the first place.

Dysphorika · May 4, 2022

Rutonat said:
Well, while he does get too ahead of himself, he doesn't do it to try to wreck your power. If anything, he's mainly overzealous in trying to be usefull and think ahead of what could help you without bothering you with questions every 5 minutes. It's pretty clear he loathes his kin for their simple mind and low intellect, so it seems pretty logical he'd try to show more initiative. The only thing is that he doesn't know what you're thinking, so he does with that he remembers from his previous master.
Basically, he's trying to get ahead of potential problems, but doesn't really do a good job because he doesn't know what you intend in the first place.

The best servant is who anticipates the will of their master/mistress.

Hargan2 · May 4, 2022

Rutonat said:
Well, while he does get too ahead of himself, he doesn't do it to try to wreck your power. If anything, he's mainly overzealous in trying to be usefull and think ahead of what could help you without bothering you with questions every 5 minutes. It's pretty clear he loathes his kin for their simple mind and low intellect, so it seems pretty logical he'd try to show more initiative. The only thing is that he doesn't know what you're thinking, so he does with that he remembers from his previous master.
Basically, he's trying to get ahead of potential problems, but doesn't really do a good job because he doesn't know what you intend in the first place.

Fair enough. Still gonna eat him though.

Deleted member 4874475 · May 4, 2022

Hargan2 said:
Either way, I have no use for a kobold that can think for itself anyway.

Issa – the femboy-koboldish version of Immanuel Kant.

Honestly, I like Issa’s autonomy. I wouldn't want an army that relies solely upon my orders to function.

0ixi0 · May 4, 2022

Enid is cool. Can we get more Enid heh

Rutonat · May 4, 2022

Autismus Maximus said:
Honestly, I like Issa’s autonomy. I wouldn't want an army that relies solely upon my orders to function.

Yup. If all of your servants constantly wait for your orders, nothing will ever get done, and when you get invaded, they could just as well be stupid enough to come ask you if they should defend. Also leaves the door open to them believing someone telling them that what they say comes from you.
Plus, Issa's underhanded tactics wan pay off, like when you march on the capital if you made him the kobold leader.

Deleted member 4874475 · May 4, 2022

Rutonat said:
Yup. If all of your servants constantly wait for your orders, nothing will ever get done, and when you get invaded, they could just as well be stupid enough to come ask you if they should defend.

Exactly! Every so often, it's better to listen to your guts and take an opportunity if one presents itself, rather than waiting if your higher up allows it and potentially losing the said opportunity. This can also be applied to armies and soldiers.

You have to be able to delegate as a ruler and grant subjects a certain amount of autonomy.

Jman9 · May 4, 2022

Autismus Maximus said:
You have to be able to delegate as a ruler and grant subjects a certain amount of autonomy.

Not when you're a ~~kaiju~~ mountain-sized dragon with meters-thick scales and a village-sized maw.

...granted, the Ravager dragon isn't that (yet?), so he might have to be a lil' more sneaky.

F1forhalp · May 4, 2022

Rutonat said:
That's most likely something from the engine rather than the game, I think.

this auto-forward setting kind of 'comes with the package'; you can have it, or remove it. imo since it's in the settings, should just have a button among the usual ones, like other Ren'Py games have, -or- be removed from settings if it's not intended for use. that avoids confuzzled players.

Rutonat · May 4, 2022

F1forhalp said:
this auto-forward setting kind of 'comes with the package'; you can have it, or remove it. imo since it's in the settings, should just have a button among the usual ones, like other Ren'Py games have, -or- be removed from settings if it's not intended for use. that avoids confuzzled players.

I meant about the fact there was no keyboard shortcut to it.

Jman9 · May 5, 2022

Rutonat said:
I meant about the fact there was no keyboard shortcut to it.

TAB, isn't this the auto-skip toggle?

Rutonat · May 5, 2022

Jman9 said:
TAB, isn't this the auto-skip toggle?

Well, I never use it, but he seemed to say there weren't one ? Unless I misunderstood.

Jman9 · May 5, 2022

Neither do I, but weren't you agreeing with him that there's no shortcut?

Unless the '...flips through text pages on a timer.' does need some sort of timer. I don't know about anything like that in default Ren'Py.

Rutonat · May 5, 2022

Jman9 said:
Neither do I, but weren't you agreeing with him that there's no shortcut?

Unless the '...flips through text pages on a timer.' does need some sort of timer. I don't know about anything like that in default Ren'Py.

As I never used auto-play, I never checked if there was a shortcut for it. Since he seemed to say there weren't, I assumed he looked and didn't find any. I'm not going to tell him there is one if I don't know if there is, just to go against him.
If he's mistaken and there is a shortcut, someone will eventually say so.

Jman9 · May 5, 2022

Yeah, but you went further than that and essentially did tell whoever reads your post(s) that there is no shortcut. Not merely that you are not aware of one, which would have been fine.

Eh, it's going offtopic again...

F1forhalp · May 6, 2022

i didn't mean a key shortcut, but form other games i do know a button, usually among the fwd/back/skip/fskip/load/save/qsave ones. haven't used any shortcuts in this game so far, heavily leaning on mouse usage.

Rutonat · May 6, 2022

F1forhalp said:
i didn't mean a key shortcut, but form other games i do know a button, usually among the fwd/back/skip/fskip/load/save/qsave ones. haven't used any shortcuts in this game so far, heavily leaning on mouse usage.

My bad, then. I missunderstood what you were looking for.

Jman9 · May 6, 2022

F1forhalp said:
i didn't mean a key shortcut, but form other games i do know a button, usually among the fwd/back/skip/fskip/load/save/qsave ones.

Yeah, the Ravager folks seem to have done away with the 'auto' button, to the point that it'd be hard to fit it back into the UI. TAB still works, though.

Deleted member 4874475 · May 6, 2022

I don't know if it's a repost, but I just found that meme, and it's hilarious.

_Maou_ · May 6, 2022