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Zoey Raven

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There are 7 wrong name spelling , one of them right at the start , which threw me off as i couldn't figure out for a couple seconds who it was referring to
Laruie
should be Laurie
Thanks tho
rebirth1
Fixed, that's what I get for copy pasting. :)
 
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Zoey Raven

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Can someone explain to me how MC's whispers power works?
It's tied to the Charisma Stat. Did you choose it in game? It basically will show how it works. Sorry if I'm being simple, I guess I don't know exactly what you are asking.
 

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Can someone explain to me how MC's whispers power works?
This is just analysis of what it was shown.

While Sharon's captivation eyes are more like a domination kind of power, in the sense that she imposes her will on the subject, according to what it was shown he suggest an idea in a subtle way that is accepted by the subject. It is like the subject comes to the realization on her own about such whisper. That is probably why it is called secret whisper.
 

Tserriednich'sNen

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This is just analysis of what it was shown.

While Sharon's captivation eyes are more like a domination kind of power, in the sense that she imposes her will on the subject, according to what it was shown he suggest an idea in a subtle way that is accepted by the subject. It is like the subject comes to the realization on her own about such whisper. That is probably why it is called secret whisper.
Thanks! how it works confused me since it was quite different from Sharon's ability.
 
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diestormlie

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This game is a good'un. And it's definitely just the World of Darkness with the logos obscured, which, well, is a plus for me.
 

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This is just analysis of what it was shown.

While Sharon's captivation eyes are more like a domination kind of power, in the sense that she imposes her will on the subject, according to what it was shown he suggest an idea in a subtle way that is accepted by the subject. It is like the subject comes to the realization on her own about such whisper. That is probably why it is called secret whisper.
I call it a self contained cerebral neuralizer
This is just analysis of what it was shown.

While Sharon's captivation eyes are more like a domination kind of power, in the sense that she imposes her will on the subject, according to what it was shown he suggest an idea in a subtle way that is accepted by the subject. It is like the subject comes to the realization on her own about such whisper. That is probably why it is called secret whisper.
A cerebral neutralizer lol. Andrew should be given that power after all he's one of the men in black
 

Avaron1974

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Gotta be honest, there are only so many "hey this happened to me" ... "no it didn't, you are just confused" conversations I can cope with.

They don't know who sired him and he's already shown growth beyond any other vampire they know yet still pulling the "we don't believe you" nonsense. It gets old.

It's not my story to write but Sharon is supposed to be intelligent and has been around a while yet seems oddly dismissive and not willing to listen to someone she supposedly cares about.

1 sentence to annoy all the Sharon fans ....... she's holding him back, why do we still need her?

I'd rather go with the blonde, she seem a bit more ,well, nuts and hopefully wiling to listen to wilder shit. Sharon seems to be one of those people that seems to think they know everything about a world that is constantly evolving and looks to have left her behind. If she isn't going to start paying attention she is going to be more of a hindrance than she already is.

From the MC's quick growth to the sire no one knows to the girl blocking her eye powers (which she claimed was impossible yet the proof was right there) to getting her arse well and truly handed to her....

I liked her until near the end of the first season, she just seems utterly useless except as a food source. She's a walking can of pop.
 

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Gotta be honest, there are only so many "hey this happened to me" ... "no it didn't, you are just confused" conversations I can cope with.

They don't know who sired him and he's already shown growth beyond any other vampire they know yet still pulling the "we don't believe you" nonsense. It gets old.

It's not my story to write but Sharon is supposed to be intelligent and has been around a while yet seems oddly dismissive and not willing to listen to someone she supposedly cares about.

1 sentence to annoy all the Sharon fans ....... she's holding him back, why do we still need her?

I'd rather go with the blonde, she seem a bit more ,well, nuts and hopefully wiling to listen to wilder shit. Sharon seems to be one of those people that seems to think they know everything about a world that is constantly evolving and looks to have left her behind. If she isn't going to start paying attention she is going to be more of a hindrance than she already is.

From the MC's quick growth to the sire no one knows to the girl blocking her eye powers (which she claimed was impossible yet the proof was right there) to getting her arse well and truly handed to her....

I liked her until near the end of the first season, she just seems utterly useless except as a food source. She's a walking can of pop.
Yeah, the whole "you're going crazy thing" annoyed me too. You'd think a bunch of vampires who've encountered all kinds of powers would have a more open mind to MC's OP abilities lol though no matter how much Sharon annoys me with that I still like her. I think she'll play a bigger role in future updates :unsure:
 

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First thing, a recommendation. Do not write walls of text as you did. It is harder to read and many people will just not read your comment at all. Use stops and paragraphs and if possible leave spaces between paragraphs.

Second, a reminder that this is not a porn game, it is an adult game. There is no need for sexual content in the first one, there is need for it in the second one as it is the only defining point.

Third, there will be sex. Things are getting closer and I am starting to think that it is coming closer. But regardless of when it comes, it is unlikely that sex will be a key point in the novel. Most likely, the novel would work even if the sex scenes are just left to the imagination as it happens in other non 18+ media. You simply don't read this novel for the sex. Sex is the cherry on top of the ice cream, tasty, but not the reason why you eat the ice cream in the first place.

Fourth, I do think a little more spice would help it get more support. But I don't want them to compromise what they are doing just for some quick satisfaction.
Your right my writing could use work. That being said maybe the dev should have made it for a site that is not 18+ he probably would have made more money?
That being said he did make it for 18+ a decision he made so I don't think sexual content would hurt the story any if at all and as you your self agreed he would probably make more money and bring in more supporters at the end of the day this and many others this game is on is an adult site.
Games like reluctant archon good story great renders beautiful girls and sex that doesn't hurt the story and slowly getting supporters there are other games same thing,
I love this game and were it on a site that wasn't 18+ I would support and enjoy but I come here and many other 18+ sites like many many other people for porn so I would venture to say that a good story in a porn game is the plus not the other way around. Just my opinion.
I am glad that it's finally coming around I just hope it's actually with the mc and not just a dream?
On that note I was not happy with this update in the fact that all this progress we've made and she still doesn't believe or trust us?
We tell about the visions and were told not possible shut up???? Not cool from someone we've done nothing but damn near worship?
Last update I really thought we were starting to get somewhere with what happened at the abandon hospital and saving her talking about feelings then she treats us that way when were trying to be open and honest and learn from her but I guess we have to shut up???
Anyway I tried to write this better don't know I succeeded I may wait to download again for maybe two updates?
Again I truly believe that sexual content is not going to hurt the story and yes I agree 1st episode didn't need it but we're on second now and still haven't had any so we still have the customary hand jobs foot jobs oral to go thru before we get to anything good and that could have been implemented here and there already at least some of it and again it wouldn't have hurt the story? Just my opinion and thoughts.
I do support some games reluctant archon is one of them I wanted to support this but I'm on a porn site for porn there are other sites for non porn games so I think this is one of those games I might end up kicking the dev a few bucks after its complete still waiting to see how it goes?
The dev is very talented I just feel he could have maximized his earnings with a little bit of sexual content here and there just to keep getting supporters and keeping it interesting nudity can only go so far. The game is still excellent top 15 on my list but could be top 5 and who knows he my start throwing in really good sexual content now and that might make me rethink my stance and subscribe,
There have been a ton off people who have messaged me saying the same thing so if they are all telling the truth then he would end up with at least 10 subs so I'm not the only one when I wrote that yesterday I thought it was probably just a few of us but I there are more that love this game just want a bit more and believe the story would still be good! Thank you for your time :)
 
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Wildbill5150

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Gotta be honest, there are only so many "hey this happened to me" ... "no it didn't, you are just confused" conversations I can cope with.

They don't know who sired him and he's already shown growth beyond any other vampire they know yet still pulling the "we don't believe you" nonsense. It gets old.

It's not my story to write but Sharon is supposed to be intelligent and has been around a while yet seems oddly dismissive and not willing to listen to someone she supposedly cares about.

1 sentence to annoy all the Sharon fans ....... she's holding him back, why do we still need her?

I'd rather go with the blonde, she seem a bit more ,well, nuts and hopefully wiling to listen to wilder shit. Sharon seems to be one of those people that seems to think they know everything about a world that is constantly evolving and looks to have left her behind. If she isn't going to start paying attention she is going to be more of a hindrance than she already is.

From the MC's quick growth to the sire no one knows to the girl blocking her eye powers (which she claimed was impossible yet the proof was right there) to getting her arse well and truly handed to her....

I liked her until near the end of the first season, she just seems utterly useless except as a food source. She's a walking can of pop.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything written here(y)
 

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Your right my writing could use work. That being said maybe the dev should have made it for the site there not 18+ he probably would have made more money?
That being said he did make it for 18+ a decision he made so I don't think sexual content would hurt the story any if at all and as you your self agreed he would probably make more money and bring in more supporters at the end of the day this is an adult site.
Games like reluctant archon good story great renders beautiful girls and sex that doesn't hurt the story and he's making money and getting supporters there are other games same thing,
I love this game and were it on a site that wasn't 18+ I would support and enjoy but I come here like many many others for porn so I would venture to say that a good story in a porn game is the plus not the other way around. Just my opinion.
I am glad that it's finally coming around I just hope it's actually with the mc and not just a dream?
On that note I was not happy with this update in the fact that all this progress we've made and she still doesn't believe or trust us?
We tell about the visions and were told not possible shut up???? Not cool from someone we've done nothing but damn near worship?
Last update I really thought we were starting to get somewhere with what happened at the abandon hospital and saving her talking about feelings then she treats us that way when were trying to be open and honest and learn from her but I guess we have to shut up???
Anyway I tried to write this better don't know I succeeded I may wait to download again for maybe two updates?
Again I truly believe that sexual content is not going to hurt the story and yes I agree 1st episode didn't need it but we're on second now and still haven't had any so we still have the customary hand jobs foot jobs oral to go thru before we get to anything good and that could have been implemented here and there already at least some of it and again it wouldn't have hurt the story? Just my opinion and thoughts.
I do support some games reluctant archon is one of them I wanted to support this but I'm on a porn site for porn there are other sites for non porn games so I think this is one of those games I might end up kicking the dev a few bucks after its complete still waiting to see how it goes?
The dev is very talented I just feel he could have maximized his earnings with a little bit of sexual content here and there just to keep getting supporters and keeping it interesting nudity can only go so far. The game is still excellent top 15 on my list but could be top 5 and who knows he my start throwing in really good sexual content now and that might make me rethink my stance and subscribe,
There have been a ton off people who have messaged me saying the same thing so if they are all telling the truth then he would end up with at least 10 subs so I'm not the only one when I wrote that yesterday I thought it was probably just a few of us but I there are more that love this game just want a bit more and believe the story would still be good! Thank you for your time :)
You do realize that Reluctant Archon makes half the money Rebirth does.
 
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Avaron1974

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That being said maybe the dev should have made it for the site there not 18+ he probably would have made more money?
I don't think many devs make games for this site considering it's a piracy site.

Then again just because it's for adult it doesn't mean porn, we have plenty of games with no sexual content.

As for Reluctant Archon, I too love that game, I kinda have to ... i'm in it, but it doesn't make as much money as this does and add in to the fact that this dev is part of a group and doesn't just rely on 1 games income I think he's doing fine.
 

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You do realize that Reluctant Archon makes half the money Rebirth does.
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Your correct I wasn't thinking but was manly talking about story and sex content I will edit before statement, I do still believe that my statement as a whole stands correct in my opinion if I come up with an example for money I can add it although that's not the only thing I said, just a statement of opinion even though I used one bad example which I will correct it is in my opinion that I believe true.
Thank you for pointing out my mistake I will fix it as to not mislead anyone. :D (y)
 

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Gotta be honest, there are only so many "hey this happened to me" ... "no it didn't, you are just confused" conversations I can cope with.

They don't know who sired him and he's already shown growth beyond any other vampire they know yet still pulling the "we don't believe you" nonsense. It gets old.

It's not my story to write but Sharon is supposed to be intelligent and has been around a while yet seems oddly dismissive and not willing to listen to someone she supposedly cares about.

1 sentence to annoy all the Sharon fans ....... she's holding him back, why do we still need her?

I'd rather go with the blonde, she seem a bit more ,well, nuts and hopefully wiling to listen to wilder shit. Sharon seems to be one of those people that seems to think they know everything about a world that is constantly evolving and looks to have left her behind. If she isn't going to start paying attention she is going to be more of a hindrance than she already is.

From the MC's quick growth to the sire no one knows to the girl blocking her eye powers (which she claimed was impossible yet the proof was right there) to getting her arse well and truly handed to her....

I liked her until near the end of the first season, she just seems utterly useless except as a food source. She's a walking can of pop.
I made a joke about that several pages ago. It is indeed strange how both Sharon and Merrick keep denying what Dan can do, specially Sharon who saw all three powers manifest.

ps:
I wouldn't go that far as joining Astrid. She seems quite unhinged to me.o_Oo_O
 

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Personally I think a lot of why shes dismissing what he has said is because it hasnt happened before to her knowledge, she doesnt want him telling the wrong person, but if she doesnt try to believe him, thats exactly what will happen, hes already stuffed up and let the wrong person hear something, twice... Laurie and Astrid, luckily that has been dealt with already.

I think she wants to believe him, but if a friend walked up to you and told you he could see the past etc, what would you think, the first thought would probably be "Your Crazy", but deep inside you would want them to stop, so that you could go back to believing in them.

Sharon believes the MC about the Invisibility and Claws, but the Whispers were something she couldnt see, like his visions, and they will need to work through that before something goes bad.

BTW the visions dont appear to be one of his Disciplines at all, remember there was also that Nos that was having the same sort of visions, I think thats more due to the "Blood Queen" - Woman in blood whatever we wanna nickname her, from what we have seen she is ancient, probably was ancient even when the MC's Sire was a Childe, I suspect she is Antideluvian which would explain the visions, maybe that Nos is of a similar generation to the MC, I cant remember the exact comment but I think Merrik said the guy was powerful before he started having visions, and maybe only those of a powerful Generation are getting the visions, it would explain a lot, she opened the door, and the MC is looking through - so to speak, essentially a free forth Discipline.

But yeah, Sharon needs to listen, and he needs to explain what hes seen, to those he trusts, Sharon and Laurie, Andrew to a lesser degree but thats because he does what Sharon says, MC trusts Merrik but some of what he has seen and done has to be kept from him, so yeah...

Carmen, is a problem, there are two different choices to make, Live and Die, and if Live Thrall or Vamp, they all know if she becomes a Vamp there will be trouble, so that kinda removes that option in the shortterm, so its really Die or Thrall, if Thrall who's Sharon, Merrik, or the MC, If she was a blood bag to the MC then Merrik is the main option, as then he doesnt have to worry about borrowing Laurie which most MC's would be against due to their lifelong friendship, Sharon even said at one point that the MC could use her as whatever he wanted, she was going to give her to him.

If the MC was nice to her, then the chances are he'd want Carmen to be either his or Sharons, but they might be willing to let Merrik have a bite if needed since they arent long time friends.

Back to the talking between the group I think the MC and Sharon need to talk before he takes a walk in the sun due to her treatment, when your dismissed like she had done theres no idea what you might do, especially when you might have a vision and walk outside during it...

Once he is able to tell her some of the things hes seen that she knows are true, she might open up, sure his clan is different but so far nothing about his clan has been of a disadvantage, Sharon will see that and be able to convince him to not talk about the bits he needs to keep quiet about, heck his Sire could even turn up and explain it to her, but that would be a bit overkill.

Also I think she knows how potent his blood is, when she got hurt she was close to final-death, a small drink and she was fully healed, needed a little blood to be full but still, that happens only when the blood is especially potent, and she would know it, she is fond of him though so she doesnt want anyone to hear about it, fearing he might get bled for that same blood.

In relation to the whole dick twitch incidents, Laurie I think was the first to cause it, then Sharon, both a few times, then Carmen eventually, It had happened in Episode 1 so yeah, its not all because of Carmen like a few people have mentioned.
 
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Gotta be honest, there are only so many "hey this happened to me" ... "no it didn't, you are just confused" conversations I can cope with.
Poor Sharon is feeling very overwhelmed by her "parenting" responsibilities atm. The MC is like a super-genius child that is mentally running their parent ragged.

They don't know who sired him and he's already shown growth beyond any other vampire they know yet still pulling the "we don't believe you" nonsense. It gets old.
Except Sharon is starting to believe the MC, it's just that she's feeling very much overwhelmed at how the MC is beyond anything she's experienced or seen others experience. I don't think it will be much longer before Sharon accepts that the MC is simply way beyond the norm and starts giving him the benefit of the doubt.

It's not my story to write but Sharon is supposed to be intelligent and has been around a while yet seems oddly dismissive and not willing to listen to someone she supposedly cares about.
The problem here is that the MC is entirely outside of her experiences, and that before she met the MC, she didn't think a lot of what the MC can do was even possible, especially for such a young vampire.

1 sentence to annoy all the Sharon fans ....... she's holding him back, why do we still need her?
She's his foster parent. It's her job to teach him how to function within the laws of vampire society.

I'd rather go with the blonde, she seem a bit more ,well, nuts and hopefully wiling to listen to wilder shit.
I strongly suspect that Astrid would greatly enjoy draining the MC dry once she learns she can increase her own power by doing so. I can easily see her suckering the MC to his destruction much as Delilah did Samson.

Sharon seems to be one of those people that seems to think they know everything about a world that is constantly evolving and looks to have left her behind. If she isn't going to start paying attention she is going to be more of a hindrance than she already is.
Real people take time to adapt to situations that are entirely outside their experiences. Games tend to rush that adjustment because players don't like to deal with it, but I think it's perfectly realistic for Sharon to have some difficulty adjusting. It also demonstrate's just how incredibly rare a childe vampire of the MC's generation is given that Sharon has lived her entire unlife without encountering anyone with near the same potential.

From the MC's quick growth to the sire no one knows to the girl blocking her eye powers (which she claimed was impossible yet the proof was right there) to getting her arse well and truly handed to her....
Sharon's relationship with the MC wasn't supposed to be remotely equal. By dint of her much greater experience Sharon was supposed to have all the power in the relationship. Not only is the MC developing freakishly fast, but the MC is rapidly surpassing her, and she's struggling with how easily her years of effort developing Dominate were put to shame by the MC's effortless mastery of some power she's never heard of before.

I liked her until near the end of the first season, she just seems utterly useless except as a food source. She's a walking can of pop.
She's not in the MC's league, but that isn't her fault. And yes, she's struggling to accept how far beyond her own experiences the MC is. Nevertheless she's still the most devoted and trustworthy vampire ally the MC has and ditching her at this point wouldn't be wise.
 

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I don't think many devs make games for this site considering it's a piracy site.l

Then again just because it's for adult it doesn't mean porn, we have plenty of games with no sexual content.

As for Reluctant Archon, I too love that game, I kinda have to ... i'm in it, but it doesn't make as much money as this does and add in to the fact that this dev is part of a group and doesn't just rely on 1 games income I think he's doing fine.
I didn't mean to say he wasn't doing fine I think he's a great writer yes I noticed I said something about reluctant and money without actually checking I have edit that statement and will change it if I find something that does, Although that wasn't necessarily the point of what I was saying
It was just a blanket statement that got a little ranty I'm not a very good writer and was just my opinion I truly do love this game which is why I even bothered posting that in the first place. I didn't know much about the dev so I thank you for the information I will have to check out his other stuff see what any of those are like :)
 
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