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she also had a reality check from Calisto, so things might change
And one from E, yeah if Sharon would not see some light now she is a lost cause, then again her remarks show she did notice now there is more out there as she ever hoped when just became a vamp. :p Question though is what her role will be if survives, it seems will be mainly LI and support with maybe a bit of own story if she was turned by one of the archons, princeps or possibly even Virgil in case he is not Arcas and maybe some dark back story. (Which would still likely make him the number one threat to MC as he is likely a pretty old vamp anyway, just it would mean MC might have two very dangerous opponents coming cause I do suspect Arcas will have a role :p)

One theory I had was that I might have been using Sharon somehow and maybe hid a part of herself in her, seems very unlikely though with lack of strength of Sharon and the sisters seeming to be way less human to even care about something like that.
 
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One theory I had was that I might have been using Sharon somehow and maybe hid a part of herself in her, seems very unlikely though with lack of strength of Sharon and the sisters seeming to be way less human to even care about something like that.
if we extrapolate the truth from what Astrid said, it seems Sharon is supressing her true nature, and she used to be more brutal. also Merric said, that inside Sharon is just as repulsive as the Nos on the outside.
 
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Don't happen. If any of them will fuck you, you would be very much only their tool for their pleasure and most likely you will end up entirely dead.
Even if you fuck Calisto the false way she will literally break you in two halve - or let Cindy do her the faviour.
 

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Several things.
Not going to quote them. It gets messy and hard to keep my place :D

Calisto-
So Calisto the Nymph/Vampire was created in 2,500 BCE. There are various clues to her origin throughout the story, revolving around the temple, her title, and other hints given in what I will refer to as denials and confirmations from discussions with the Devs.
She is that Calisto. I wrote a rather lengthy "paper" to the devs, and we had a nice chat about it. As a result of all my theory mongering with them, I was offered my "position" to work with them doing QC type work. I also am an occasional sounding board, and sometimes just interesting what if kinds of conversations. I do have spoiler level knowledge on Calisto as a result of our conversation which confirmed theories.

There was a time when we here on the board thought that Artemis was our Vision Girl. As a result of that conversation, and a lot of feverish searching, when the dev dropped a random comment, I ended up betting my sack that our Vision Girl was Inanna. That was forever ago.

Remember that the myths are just that, a myth upon which the developers are painting a picture. We went through the gyrations of Virgin Priestess and MILF and Artemis and all of that. Truly too much to recount all right here. There are divergences with the myths, which vampires would of course account for, and there are divergences which vampires can't account for. What is most interesting, at least for me, is that they are making their own myth fit into a general framework of historical mythology. No copyright infringements, no plagiarism. They are creating their myth with a hint or more than a hint, of "realism."

All of that said, it is not a 100% match for what history records, but it, like VtM is the inspiration for their own mythos.

The Roland/Virgil dynamic really plays out differently I think than perhaps you are perceiving it. No one, even a best friend, can disrespect the Princeps in the hearing of other members of the court, as that would basically be the same thing as calling the Prince of a VtM game out. You don't do that, certainly not at an "event" that he is hosting. Virgil is far too cavalier to be the servant.

As for the Myth vs a Vampire version of it, yes it is true that Arcas was tricked into hunting his momma bear, but Vampires do not really play that way.. I think the literal 100% transliteration of the myth is not going to help you in this. Loosen the grips a bit and remember that we are trying to guess how a Vampire fits within the dev's Mythos, not how the Deity literally fits into a World Religion class... though the World Religion class could give us clues and hints.

It is my nap time so I will finish with this...... and it is fun.

The Devs assured me that by the end of the AVN the MC would be in the 4th most powerful vampire...........
That is a subtle difference, but very telling.

Does that mean even in defeat, both Goddesses survive, Calisto, and the MC?
One Goddess, One New Player, Calisto, the MC? Some other permutation?
Not sure, but if I am guessing, I think one Goddess goes back for a nap, one stays up and wreaks hell on earth, Calisto, and the MC........

Good comments all!
More stuff on other comments later. I am going into my daytime sleep death
Peace
 
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Don't happen. If any of them will fuck you, you would be very much only their tool for their pleasure and most likely you will end up entirely dead.
Even if you fuck Calisto the false way she will literally break you in two halve - or let Cindy do her the faviour.
but what if MC is the reborn first childe of Inana kiled by E out of jealousy
 

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The Devs assured me that by the end of the AVN the MC would be in the 4th most powerful vampire...........
That is a subtle difference, but very telling.
if I have to take a wild guess... going from 4th to 1st...
4th MC once he defeats and snacks on Virgil, Roland and other arcons
3rd Calisto,
2nd the sister that wins the fight
1st the one that made I and E, the story might end with MC taking a cab, with a sumerian looking taxi driver asking MC if he found what he's been looking for in life.
 

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The Devs assured me that by the end of the AVN the MC would be in the 4th most powerful vampire...........
So going with that, I can only see some variants:
1)
  1. Vampire Goddess Sister
  2. Other Vampire Goddess Sister
  3. Callisto
  4. MC
2)
  1. One of the Vampire Goddess Sister
  2. Callisto
  3. Either of Fabian, Cindy, Virgila aka Arcas aka Plublius (?) aka first childe of Calisto, first childe of Calisto
  4. MC
3)
  1. One of the Vampire Goddess Sister
  2. Callisto
  3. Some other badass vampire not know yet
  4. MC
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So going with that, I can only see some variants:
1)
  1. Vampire Goddess Sister
  2. Other Vampire Goddess Sister
  3. Callisto
  4. MC
2)
  1. One of the Vampire Goddess Sister
  2. Callisto
  3. Either of Fabian, Cindy, Virgila aka Arcas aka Plublius (?) aka first childe of Calisto, first childe of Calisto
  4. MC
3)
  1. One of the Vampire Goddess Sister
  2. Callisto
  3. Some other badass vampire not know yet
  4. MC
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I don't agree with ranking Virgil and the Princeps that high At best they are like 9th and 8th gen
The probably drained some vamps but they are not even close to MC. They would've killed him already
However i do agree they probably serve Arcas as we in a way serve Calisto

Cindy is like an ancient thrall like probably a guardian of Calisto's temple

Fabian is more like a 6th or 7th gen he isn't a direct descendant from Calisto or the vision girls he was sired by a childe of Calisto that was killed

Just my 2 cents
 
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I don't agree with ranking Virgil and the Princeps that high At best they are like 9th and 8th gen
The probably drained some vamps but they are not even close to MC. They would've killed him already
However i do agree they probably serve Arcas as we in a way serve Calisto

Cindy is like an ancient thrall like probably a guardian of Calisto's temple

Fabian is more like a 6th or 7th gen he isn't a direct descendant from Calisto or the vision girls he was sired by a childe of Calisto that was killed

Just my 2 cents
I do think there is a significant chance Fabian was sired by Arcas. I don't think she has had any other childer. Just my opinion on that part.

Cindy..... I am thinking she "could" be an ancient ghoul like you are saying... I mean it is possible. But she is active during the night time, seemingly exclusively. She argues with and man handles other vampires. She is a vampire in my book. She might even be related to the bloodline as I have mentioned. She also "could" be another bloodline that is serving Calisto. We know she is the sometimes enforcer of Calisto. She tossed Frank off the Temple grounds. She seems to be very strong.

Virgil remains my candidate for the Arcas character, so I rank him 5th gen. (maybe recently 4th if he snacked on a naughty tid bit) which would make him a handful for Calisto. Hence the need for the MC.

Having Arcas hidden is appealing. Having Virgil and the Princeps serving him that way would be appealing. I don't know on this one..... good thought. I think Virgil is the Alpha over Roland lol.

So rankings again as of the END of the novel,
If we assume that the evil taunting devs are NOT playing with my emotions, then......

1- Vision Girl-Insert the one of your choice, but it is Inanna in my book.
2- Vision Girl- put into torpor again, Ereshkigal
3- Calisto
4- MC

If on the other hand.... I am being made into a fanboi remote S&M pleasure bot

1- Inanna
2- Calisto
3- MC- Amongst means could be in position 3 I suppose (Post diablerie of Arcas)
4- Fabian

I am seeking therapy and ask that my condition and ongoing treatment be respected by the media.

I wonder if the Team E equivalent of Calisto will make an appearance. That could fuck with all my calculus.

Argh!
Peace
 

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Been sitting on this game for a while. How close is it to 100% Was good enough that I wanted to hold off until complete.
 

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Is it weird I thought she was cute?

I've never had particularly high standards but I would have my head betwixt her thighs faster than she could say "tongue me ginger whore"......

I vote her for main LI.
Just so you know....
I stopped breathing temporarily, due to laughing too hard.....
"I've never had particularly high standards but I would have my head betwixt her thighs faster than she could say "tongue me ginger whore"......"
I can't un-see where my mind went with this.....
:p
 

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Ava Dahling,
Do let me know if you find any of those gray parts Sword Boy was referring to with your new girl friend.
:D
 
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