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Arigon

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Ok so I have a thought for a second, so you how Callisto turns the mc in the beginning of the game and Laurie got turned by Sharon but they don’t show how they got turned like how does the transition work again is it like where they drain you and they exchange blood like in true blood and fright night
So, from every conversation I have had on this subject, the subject is dying, not quite completely dead, and the embracing vampire takes some amount of blood, the amount of which I suppose depends on how little the prospective vampire has, and then feeds the prospective vampire some of their own blood.

The subject will be basically down for some amount of time. The time will vary depending on the power of the new vampire and their creator. Lesser powerful vampires do not stay down long, as the changes required are relatively fewer, and the more powerful vampires are down for a long time, as the vampire "DNA" *not really but kinda, has to rewrite the subject more extensively.

This is why Laurie woke for a time very quickly, and why the MC was down for a very long time.

Hope this helps.
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In my opinion The Bite has it own game thread where The Bite should be discussed. That is, in my opinion, first out of respect and second to let the illusion of save and fair place we have her life a little bit longer.

In the much more wide question of what vampires are, I'm only aware of one feature that they share across a different description of them: The drink (human) blood so the can survive.

Even the glittering vampire of some (in)famous movies and books are, at least, in the author eyes vampires.
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I agree
and I only mention the Bite because it was brought up and pointed out that I was done talking about it as this is Rebirth lol.
Now I am talking about it again. No Mas!
 
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In my opinion The Bite has it own game thread where The Bite should be discussed. That is, in my opinion, first out of respect and second to let the illusion of save and fair place we have her life a little bit longer.
totally agree with you (y) , i felt i had to defend that game a bit because someone compared them. but as you said i also don't want to be disrespectful against the developer by talking about other games in his thread.

the only thing i don't like about rebirth so far is, that i don't like novels where i don't have a say in it. in general i'm no fan of kinetic novels, is the story good fine, but the problem is in adult games that you are forced into (lewd) scenes you maybe don't want to.
 
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Yes.
There has been speculation that his more powerful blood can thrall with fewer doses. So maybe less.
I think she is better off being her own girl. Sharon is not going to control her in my mind, though that would be an epic fuck you to Laurie! If Dominate works similarly to inspirational materials, which is does not entirely as I have pointed out to the Dev and on here * Sharon used it on the MC when they frenzied and ran from the flamethrower killing the feral nos, which in theory should not have worked, then Sharon would not be able to use it on the MC or Sharon.... but oh hell wouldn't it be fun for the relatively undisciplined Laurie to go apeshit with Dominate?!

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I agree with you with Laurie being her own girl (she would definitely act more on emotion rather than sense, so apeshit with Dominate why not :p).

But even romanticly, you say a lot that she would not be the equal of the MC, in terms of power it's is definitively true, but i feel like since the begining of the game there wasn't really romance action engaged by MC towards Laurie, they were best friends since childhood, and equals, he probably felt guilty and didn't want to take advantage of her without really knowing if it was her or the thrall talking, but now she will be free and sincere, i hope now some romance will really start taking place.
 

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I agree with you with Laurie being her own girl (she would definitely act more on emotion rather than sense, so apeshit with Dominate why not :p).

But even romanticly, you say a lot that she would not be the equal of the MC, in terms of power it's is definitively true, but i feel like since the begining of the game there wasn't really romance action engaged by MC towards Laurie, they were best friends since childhood, and equals, he probably felt guilty and didn't want to take advantage of her without really knowing if it was her or the thrall talking, but now she will be free and sincere, i hope now some romance will really start taking place.
She is the first of our five love interests for this AVN.

None of the love interests will be completely the "Equal" of the MC.

Love interests in order of introduction with comment-

1- Laurie, childhood best friend, never previously a love interest as far as we know. She loves the MC however, even without the love artificially placed with a blood bond. Once the MC was made a vampire, and she a thrall, that relationship was extremely unequal, however, how you treated her would reflect your personal preference to be harsh or kind to her.

The choices for Laurie are;
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2- Calisto- She is your sire. She is a demigoddess and you will never be her equal as she is more potent blood wise, and has 4,500 years on you. Your relationship with her is one of being her pet lover. This will not change for this AVN

3- Sharon- She was your mentor, but is a regular, generic vampire. She does possess, as does your sire, and now possibly Laurie, the ability to Dominate both humans and other vampires. She can re-write memories with this. It is potent. With Calisto sharing this power, it is fairly likely that you will pick it up, or by having Sharon as your lover and or Laurie it might be a possibility. Whether that is realized in game or not, remains to be seen. You have the more potent Whispers, which changes a person, pretty significantly with a few words, with this comes the ability to gage what a person is thinking *Mirri in the police station, and in her home if you raped her. Sharon will be an emotional attachment that is similar to your girlfriend, secratary and den mom.

4- Carmen- Vampire Hunter, has lots of courage, and drive. Very independent, and possibly a little like Laurie in that she will cause Sharon some shit!!! Carmen is most likely to be your vampire childe, and if so, she will be your closest to equal in terms of power. Having the chemistry you have with her, it is likely that she will come to be one of your closest girls.

5- Ivy- She was the last of the planned love interests. This is per the Dev and I am not leaking anything. She is an innocent, and has a 6th sense much like Laurie demonstrated before, (Laurie with feral nos, Ivy with Ereshkigal) Ivy will be your child like sub love interest.

It is possible, "Possible", that there will be a vampire coven harem that involves 4 of the 5 girls, and will involve Calisto whenever she sees fit to give you attention.

There is a lot of speculation on Laurie going away. Unless the spoiler first case applied, she will remain.
Personally, with very incomplete knowledge, I believe that Sharon is going to be a source of comedy for us when things are dark, as she is sooo going to be giving Sharon shit.

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I really enjoy Rebirth and The Bite - and several other games as well. Rebirth is consistent in the sense that is utilises aspects of fantasy lore, myth and legend, both ancient and modern, changing and embellishing in accordance with the writers desires. This is very common practice in fiction writing, and using existing source material is not plagiarism - the verbatim copying of other 'works' is. The story of Rebirth is relatively mature, from which one can draw inferences and verify in game consistence. This is not true for The Bite, which is still in its introduction phase. However; we know almost nothing about any of the characters nor the storyline in The Bite. Hypothesising:- if the MC's sire is a banished ancient powerful vampire (see the Patron thread) then the MC would need to be protected against the prevailing laws - hence Zoe. But this is only a partial solution because Zoe admits that she is not very strong. Now current candidates for physically strong protectors are Runah or Emilia (Runah is beginning to trust the MC and Emilia appears to 'like' the MC at the end of the present update if you told the truth) either of which could be used whilst the MC finds and develops his powers. All people - and vampires, and werewolves, ... etc. lie, even George Washington, so that is a red-herring. However and in addition, most people 'tell the truth' when 'given an offer that they can't refuse'. So I don't really see any inconsistencies. Imo its just too early to make a coherent decision. I expect to continue to enjoy both stories as long as the devs keep producing updates. In future I shall direct all of my The Bite related posts to the correct thread.
 
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With his latest update im not so sure about that anymore. Obvious spoilers if you haven't played the bite don't open it
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Rebirth is way more consistent in story and plot and doesn't jump the plot around as severe as that. For me that just killed that game
Eh I don't think that's a big deal. It's a pretty common trope in many forms of fiction for a potentially powerful protagonist to not actually know how to use their powers with it often manifesting only in times of a great need. It's pretty obvious that eventually that OP will be a force to be reckoned with as far as that world goes, but it's going to take time to get there.

Comparing the two games is difficult since the bite is still in its infancy while this game is pretty far along. My overall impressions are that the bite has much greater potential, but it may not stick the landing. For one, the atmosphere just feels far more alive, you can already tell there's a lot of political machinations going on. While in this game I never got the sense of the broader vampire world having much of an impact on us. I'm also liking the more grounded nature to the mythology (so far) rather than having gods and demigods floating around.

On a non-story note, the renders are far better in Bite than this game.
 
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Everyone does have their own preferences.
I do not necessarily agree with the political machinations being any more involved in the other story than they are here. In both cases we have fresh and obviously powerful protagonists.
Renders are in the eye of the beholder to a certain extent.
There is a mood that is being set with this game. I actually spoke to Ptolemy about that when we were discussing my desire for Calisto and the MC to actually take the Ursa form instead of just having bear claws and strength etc. There were no bear models that fit the atmosphere that they are going for although a couple of games have renders I have looked into. Of course the renders require new assets which eat into the operating budget. The guys both work regular jobs, as well as work on this game and a couple of other projects including Alexandra. So no bears for Uncle Arigon...
I was actually a little heartbroken about that.

My writing and coding could do the task, but sadly my DAZ skills blow!

IF I do publish a story that is kicking around in the dusty recesses of my hard drive, it will mean shitty renders or I will have to hire an artist lol.

Anyway, to each their own!
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Randomness of stats boost or ability unlock or use varies from scene to scene. Even during last update MC's hearing is shown poor compared to Andrew. Whereas previously it's established that MC has super hearing and smell from ep1 (Astrid rescue), ep3 (Nos hideout, hunter fetch).
I always thought these two were implied to be some other esoteric vampiric power at play.
 

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The stat gain is not random. Contrary to popular belief.
The MC has a meta ability of heightened senses, all vampires and some ghouls/thralls have it. Andrew just made his perception roll and the MC failed lol.

Meta abilities implied are -to use VtM terms
Auspex, (Laurie, Andrew, Sharon, MC)Presence(Sharon, MC), Fortitude for (Sharon, Andrew and MC)

Flagrant abilities- Domination-Sharon, Calisto, probably Laurie, possibly MC by the end of the novel.
Bear Claws- MC, Calisto
Potence- MC, Calisto
Whispers- much more potent version of domination and auspex combined- MC and Calisto,
Visions which could be a high level Auspex but more likely just another power- Calisto, Frank, MC
Invisibility-all the Nos, Calisto, MC.
Sorcery-Calisto, Fabian, MC but will need to be trained.
Virgil should have all the abilities that Calisto has, plus some kind of serious disguising MoJo if he is in fact Arcas.

MC was very fast early on and at times recently, probably some Celerity for him and Calisto.
He would not be a fledgling/neonate vampire, he would be a Pretender built on Elysium rules due to Calisto being his sire.

This is all pretty close to what is actually true. Ivy and Laurie both demonstrate a kind of 6th sense at various times as well. Ivy is as far as we know, a perfectly normal human. Laurie was a ghoul/thrall and now a vampire.

It would be very satisfying if Laurie busts out with a shit ton of powers because she drinks every night at Malia's new club lol.
I really am finding myself hoping she gets some cool scenes and better hair!
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There is a path to follow. How much you gain in any step is random, but if you do not follow the correct steps you won't get a power.
 
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