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Is Zephyr in direct service to all the Archons, to the bald muscular one, or to the princeps (and/or the quaestor)?

I'm finding it weird that it seems like every power figure has access to her services, and yet she is never available for Sharon and the MC to be used as a messenger.

At the start of the story, she was presented in a way that made it seem like she served the muscular bald archon (forgot his name). But she continues to appear on behalf of other actors and now I'm confused.

Surely the princeps could command whoever he wished for whatever he wanted I guess, but it still seemed strange.
There are apparently contradictory statements in game about who Zephyr reports to, which certainly leads to some confusion.

In ep1-3 we only encounter the Zephyr running messages for Marcius. In ep1 Andrew refers to her as "The archon's zephir".

But in ep3 when the Zephyr is delivering Marcius' invitation to meet, she states: "I am a messenger under the auspices of the princeps."

In ep4-5 the Zephyr is running messages for the Princeps, and she apparently has direct access to his quarters. So I believe the Zephyr has always been in service to the Princeps.

It's not entirely clear why she was running messages for Marcius, but not other Archons. Initially it was probably because at that stage other powerful people weren't aware of MC/Sharon, Marcius is the only one who wants to send messages to them. Alternatively it may be because Marcius was the most powerful Archon in the city so had more privileges.

If it's the former, and all Arcohn's have access to the Zephyr's services, then Sharon should too. Perhaps she does, but simply doesn't know. Sharon doesn't seem to know much about how the bosses run/do things.
 

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There are apparently contradictory statements in game about who Zephyr reports to, which certainly leads to some confusion.

In ep1-3 we only encounter the Zephyr running messages for Marcius. In ep1 Andrew refers to her as "The archon's zephir".

But in ep3 when the Zephyr is delivering Marcius' invitation to meet, she states: "I am a messenger under the auspices of the princeps."

In ep4-5 the Zephyr is running messages for the Princeps, and she apparently has direct access to his quarters. So I believe the Zephyr has always been in service to the Princeps.

It's not entirely clear why she was running messages for Marcius, but not other Archons. Initially it was probably because at that stage other powerful people weren't aware of MC/Sharon, Marcius is the only one who wants to send messages to them. Alternatively it may be because Marcius was the most powerful Archon in the city so had more privileges.

If it's the former, and all Arcohn's have access to the Zephyr's services, then Sharon should too. Perhaps she does, but simply doesn't know. Sharon doesn't seem to know much about how the bosses run/do things.
I don't mean to start any trouble, but I suppose it could be oversight/mistake on the author's part. She started as Marcius' messenger and was then "retconned" (without an actual retcon on the initial 3 chapters) to be the princeps messenger.

Thing is that, assuming she's trustworthy in regards to how discreet she is (which shouldn't be assumed by anyone who isn't naive), she'd be a great help in some time saving scenarios in which characters go back and forth from the main city to Scottstown. But as of now she has been presented as a "tool" that others have and can use, but not the MC/Sharon.
 

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Here's another question that has been bothering me a bit even though it's (probably) completely inconsequential:

Why is the quaestor fat?

I mean, I believe it's stated that the vamps bodies can't really undergo changes no matter how much exercise (or lack thereof) they do. And yet we have the quaestor being fat and Marcius being built like a tank.

The state of the person's body when they get turned is the one they keep for eternity? ...that'd kinda suck. Especially since I'd assume that during the process of turning, what with how much the MC and Laurie were sweating and in pain, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to think that the process itself would alter the body of the person undergoing the process.
 

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There are apparently contradictory statements in game about who Zephyr reports to, which certainly leads to some confusion.

In ep1-3 we only encounter the Zephyr running messages for Marcius. In ep1 Andrew refers to her as "The archon's zephir".

But in ep3 when the Zephyr is delivering Marcius' invitation to meet, she states: "I am a messenger under the auspices of the princeps."

In ep4-5 the Zephyr is running messages for the Princeps, and she apparently has direct access to his quarters. So I believe the Zephyr has always been in service to the Princeps.

It's not entirely clear why she was running messages for Marcius, but not other Archons. Initially it was probably because at that stage other powerful people weren't aware of MC/Sharon, Marcius is the only one who wants to send messages to them. Alternatively it may be because Marcius was the most powerful Archon in the city so had more privileges.

If it's the former, and all Arcohn's have access to the Zephyr's services, then Sharon should too. Perhaps she does, but simply doesn't know. Sharon doesn't seem to know much about how the bosses run/do things.
I don't mean to start any trouble, but I suppose it could be oversight/mistake on the author's part. She started as Marcius' messenger and was then "retconned" (without an actual retcon on the initial 3 chapters) to be the princeps messenger.

Thing is that, assuming she's trustworthy in regards to how discreet she is (which shouldn't be assumed by anyone who isn't naive), she'd be a great help in some time saving scenarios in which characters go back and forth from the main city to Scottstown. But as of now she has been presented as a "tool" that others have and can use, but not the MC/Sharon.
Guys...it's a PTOLEMY script/game...along with the other 2 devs/writers in this 'team'...stuff like this is the norm unfortunately. Could be real top tier games if not for dodgy plots, suspect writing at times and very rushed nonsensical plot endings. All their games are the same. You know what you get from them at this point if you have been around the AVN scene a while. Better to just not question these things.

Here's another question that has been bothering me a bit even though it's (probably) completely inconsequential:

Why is the quaestor fat?

I mean, I believe it's stated that the vamps bodies can't really undergo changes no matter how much exercise (or lack thereof) they do. And yet we have the quaestor being fat and Marcius being built like a tank.

The state of the person's body when they get turned is the one they keep for eternity? ...that'd kinda suck. Especially since I'd assume that during the process of turning, what with how much the MC and Laurie were sweating and in pain, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to think that the process itself would alter the body of the person undergoing the process.
Here you have to understand two things. Tradtional vampire lore and VTM Lore. Keeping the body you had at the time of your turning (this includes hair, facial hair etc etc) is very standard lore across the mythological genre (VTM exempted depending on the actual sub species of vampire, example being the Nos)
 

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Hi

Everything is ready. Just one problem we noticed in the testing phase.
Some of the renders, rendered in 1500 by 750 resolution rather than 1920 by 1080. No idea why. Maybe a fault with the batch software. No clue.
Fortunately there seem to be only 6 renders that have been messed up. I'll redo these manually, and the update will be ready to go.

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There are apparently contradictory statements in game about who Zephyr reports to, which certainly leads to some confusion.

In ep1-3 we only encounter the Zephyr running messages for Marcius. In ep1 Andrew refers to her as "The archon's zephir".

But in ep3 when the Zephyr is delivering Marcius' invitation to meet, she states: "I am a messenger under the auspices of the princeps."

In ep4-5 the Zephyr is running messages for the Princeps, and she apparently has direct access to his quarters. So I believe the Zephyr has always been in service to the Princeps.

It's not entirely clear why she was running messages for Marcius, but not other Archons. Initially it was probably because at that stage other powerful people weren't aware of MC/Sharon, Marcius is the only one who wants to send messages to them. Alternatively it may be because Marcius was the most powerful Archon in the city so had more privileges.

If it's the former, and all Arcohn's have access to the Zephyr's services, then Sharon should too. Perhaps she does, but simply doesn't know. Sharon doesn't seem to know much about how the bosses run/do things.
yeah that and she charges a boon a year to be on retainer plus 2 to 5 bags or equally worth of fresh blood per service provided!
that`s one expensive messaging system, Sharon is either being Cheap or financially responsable depending on who you ask and how long they expect to live!
I mean if its forever you should save up every penny in the 1tst 200 years, after a couple od decades you can live off your savings and the earnings of your investments!
 
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Why is the quaestor fat?
The state of the person's body when they get turned is the one they keep for eternity?
Yes. I know Rebirth's world is more like an interpretation of "vampire world" but if you are interested in details in official lore take a look at official wiki:

Physiology

Vampires change considerably after the Embrace. When a vampire is Embraced, their internal organs atrophy, and almost all their bodily fluids are replaced by blood. Vampires use blood (also called ) for a variety of purposes; blood replaces most bodily fluids, so vampires will sweat blood and cry blood under certain circumstances. Blood is also used to get up and move; every night, vampires expend a certain amount of blood to rise.

In addition, vampires can use blood to enhance their physical attributes and use supernatural powers called . Blood is used to Embrace, as noted above, and also to create . Finally, vampires can use blood to heal damage to their bodies.

Once Embraced, vampires become immortal and are locked into a form of stasis. Apart from wounds, vampires are restored to their condition at the time of Embrace every time they rise up for the night. This physical condition eventually extends to their mindsets as well; old vampires find it very hard to learn new things. While mostly incapable of eating food, vomiting it up almost instantly, vampires who have trained to do so can hold down food for longer before they must expel it from themselves, therefore keeping their façade of intact. As a result, the vampire is paler and generally thinner than they were before the Embrace. Certain have more extreme physical changes.
 
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It's not entirely clear why she was running messages for Marcius, but not other Archons. Initially it was probably because at that stage other powerful people weren't aware of MC/Sharon, Marcius is the only one who wants to send messages to them. Alternatively it may be because Marcius was the most powerful Archon in the city so had more privileges.
Personally I see Zephir more like an equivalent of Hermes (the Greek god).
Due to her ability to find whoever she need to find, and to enter wherever she need to enter, she's The Messenger. Whoever that have a "rank" high enough and need to send an official message will rely on her services. Therefore strictly speaking she don't works for someone, nor is she someone messenger. She works for the Vampires and are their messenger in this part of the world.
As for Andrew, he described her as Marcius messenger because at this time Sharon never had to receive a message from someone else than him. Therefore he was truly believing that it was who she is.


If it's the former, and all Arcohn's have access to the Zephyr's services, then Sharon should too. Perhaps she does, but simply doesn't know. Sharon doesn't seem to know much about how the bosses run/do things.
Well, it's pretty obvious that all she know about Archon's role come from her own interactions with them and what she witnessed during her none-life. After naming her Archon, Marcius should have taught her, or asked someone to taught her, what was her duty and responsibilities. But like he strongly disliked her, he didn't bothered to do it. After all, it's the best way for him to see her fell, and then to have her crawl in front of him.
What of course can't be the reason, he wouldn't have tried a shady move if he had planed to just wait and see.


Of course, all this is more than certainly just post-playing rationalization. But well, for once that there's way to explain some of the inconstancy due to the total lack of lore building prior to the starts of the story, let's go with it.


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I don't know if it's just me who thinks this waking Ancient story is being dragged to Babylon. Gone are the times of MC acquiring new skills, using them in the story, becoming stronger than everyone, etc. Carmen is still a blessing though.
Welcome to the marvelous world of indies AVN, where devs add stats and game mechanisms because they want to not do a pure Visual Novel, but don't have the starts of an idea about what they can be used for.
 
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Welcome to the marvelous world of indies AVN, where devs add stats and game mechanisms because they want to not do a pure Visual Novel, but don't have the starts of an idea about what they can be used for.
Or simple they scratch them late, because the realised that the numerial LI4 variable, don't add anything to their ideas/vision and the whole pathing (if they have any) for LI4 is enough.
 

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I don't know if it's just me who thinks this waking Ancient story is being dragged to Babylon. Gone are the times of MC acquiring new skills, using them in the story, becoming stronger than everyone, etc. Carmen is still a blessing though.
right but mc gained more powers on prev. ep. what he gained from eating marcus is to be revealed.
 

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Or simple they scratch them late, because the realised that the numerial LI4 variable, don't add anything to their ideas/vision and the whole pathing (if they have any) for LI4 is enough.
But here it's worse, there's almost nothing at all behind.

Remember when Sharon bring MC to a club for the first time ? Be charming and be stealth, you'll need it if you want to nourish yourself. God, I wonder how the promise behind this feel to people who starts the game now, playing the five episodes and never ever having to care about nourishment except this single time that was totally scripted.
Like I wonder how many feel misled, if not betrayed, by this, because being able to nourish yourself is more important at first than being able to fight. Therefore, they focused on their stealth, expecting a "okay, now I should be able to nourish on my own, time to train something else", scene that never came.

Oh, of course, your training levels have their importance. They give you some powers... Or, more precisely, some abilities that aren't totally useless, because they open some doors, but still totally meaningless, because if the door really need to be opened, then a key will magically appear.

Take the fight against Marcius by example, because it's really significant. There's three possible issues:
1) You trained enough your fighting, and then in the chapter 3 you gained a power that will let you win. But you don't activate it, because it don't show up in the power screen selection right before the fight. You have it, and you'll use it, but you can't choose it.
2) You don't have this power, but don't worry, there's a special power that everyone have without knowing it ; and that surely everyone used, unless they had the "bugged" version of the release, simply because the choice appeared and, well, who would refuse to use a power when having to fight Marcius ?
3) You are far too confident and you'll die.

They haven't thought this beforehand, and I bet that they haven't even thought it when facing it ; hence the quotation marks above, if you see what I mean.
You don't face different way to solve the issue depending on the training you choose. No, either you trained that way, or you use the cheat code they give to everyone for free. And I bet you that, when the time will come, the same will happen for those who haven't trained enough their stealth, and therefore haven't eat Marcius.

I still expect (or is it "hope"...) that all this will have it's importance in the end. But I'm not naive, it will just change the ending scripted scene. You'll be told that you became fine diplomat, or a rough ruler, nothing more. In between, don't worry, and don't care about what you choose to train, you'll be free of any bad issue and progress at the same pace than anyone else. Either thanks to your choices, or thanks to the cheat code they'll give you.
 
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