VN Ren'Py Rebounding Life [Ep. 2] [SuperWriter]

[Jnx]

Yes, I understand why you used the quotes. It's why I called you passive aggressive... which is exactly my problem with your post. You could've just said the rest without the scare quotes. Man, you sure taught him a lesson!

I also never said making money means something is good. What I was saying is that he might not have any motivation to do so because of what he earns, not that his writing couldn't improve. And thanks for making another passive aggressive stab, but at me this time. Hope your stress levels go down so you can post less irritably in the future.

Lol, you're the one that quoted ME. You're the one that had something to say about what I said. Maybe chill. Maybe go defend someone else that doesn't need you. I just don't get where or why you guys come out the woodwork to rush in front of criticisms. Boggles the mind.

 

[69Creampie]

Not sure why he'd ever be motivated to do that. It's not like he's doing badly as a developer.

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Also, you don't need quotes when typing out SuperWriter, since that's actually his developer name. I wonder why "Jnx" decided to make a passive aggressive post out of the blue.

Right.... And if Patreon completely shuts him down, people also stop paying him since he wouldn't have that avenue anymore. I checked his SubscribeStar and there are only like 8 subscribers there. My guess is on Steam he's also not got nearly the same following as on Patreon. But sure, let's call it "selling out" because he doesn't want to have to start from scratch elsewhere and we didn't get our way.

Doing it with money the main motivator = selling out as far as I'm concerned. I really wish Elon Musk would have bought Patreon instead of Twitter (prob could be had for far less than $45B, prob not even $1B), and then instead of having some 3rd party pick which kinks to gatekeep proceeded to either simply ban all porn on there or allow everything that was otherwise legal with him also being the personal payment processor rather than working with Visa/MC. AVNs in general would be better off in the long run. As it is now I blame the utter idiots still giving money to Patreon and anyone on there even after 6 years of their bullshit.

 

[AnyName'llDo]

Nice start, Supe. Enjoying this one.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Lol, you're the one that quoted ME. You're the one that had something to say about what I said. Maybe chill. Maybe go defend someone else that doesn't need you. I just don't get where or why you guys come out the woodwork to rush in front of criticisms. Boggles the mind.

You came out of the gate all grumpy and sniping for no apparent reason except "criticisms". Passive aggressive comments suddenly appearing out of nowhere boggle the mind. Anyway, blah blah, I'm "defending" someone else, blah blah, "rush in front of" things, blah blah blah... We're done here.

Doing it with money the main motivator = selling out as far as I'm concerned. I really wish Elon Musk would have bought Patreon instead of Twitter (prob could be had for far less than $45B, prob not even $1B), and then instead of having some 3rd party pick which kinks to gatekeep proceeded to either simply ban all porn on there or allow everything that was otherwise legal with him also being the personal payment processor rather than working with Visa/MC. AVNs in general would be better off in the long run. As it is now I blame the utter idiots still giving money to Patreon and anyone on there even after 6 years of their bullshit.

Right. Just because you're on a pirate site doesn't mean everyone everywhere should do everything for free. Great, almost-off-topic argument. Elon Musk?! Um... wut?

 

[69Creampie]

You came out of the gate all grumpy and sniping for no apparent reason except "criticisms". Passive aggressive comments suddenly appearing out of nowhere boggle the mind. Anyway, blah blah, I'm "defending" someone else, blah blah, "rush in front of" things, blah blah blah... We're done here.

Right. Just because you're on a pirate site doesn't mean everyone everywhere should do everything for free. Great, almost-off-topic argument. Elon Musk?! Um... wut?

I'm actually not 100% pirate. If I find an AVN I like that checks all my kink checkboxes (ie Such a Sharp Pain is my favorite and the gold standard I use) and the devs just so happen to not have anything to do with Patreon I'll toss some money or crypto their way on SS, BB, Boosty, or even just their crypto wallet link on their own page or porn site where I found it. My sub budget is $100/mo, currently 17 paid subs on SS for example, I'm just not giving shit to Patreon ever again since I canceled all of my subs there back in 2018 (including the subs that weren't even porn) when their bullshit started. If devs are not on SS or other site that doesn't care about content then I guess they don't get my money. The only way shit will ever change will be for people to complain with their wallets like I did rather than complain but keep paying them anyway like a retard.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I'm actually not 100% pirate. If I find an AVN I like that checks all my kink checkboxes (ie Such a Sharp Pain is my favorite and the gold standard I use) and the devs just so happen to not have anything to do with Patreon I'll toss some money or crypto their way on SS, BB, Boosty, or even just their crypto wallet link on their own page or porn site where I found it. My sub budget is $100/mo, currently 17 paid subs on SS for example, I'm just not giving shit to Patreon ever again since I canceled all of my subs there back in 2018 (including the subs that weren't even porn) when their bullshit started. If devs are not on SS or other site that doesn't care about content then I guess they don't get my money. The only way shit will ever change will be for people to complain with their wallets like I did rather than complain but keep paying them anyway like a retard.

Generally I'm the same (though not specifically having that game as my "gold standard" — don't think I have a specific game as that). I'm not opposed to developers being on Patreon, even if I'm opposed to the platform itself. But everyone feels differently about all of these kinds of things. I agree that if you complain about a platform but then subscribe to folks on there, I don't think that person has a leg to stand on. And while there are some (many, even) scumbag developers out there, I make it a default position to be on their side, to help encourage their creative endeavors... unless they themselves do something to drive me away — milking subscribers, refusing to listen to or outright insulting those offering constructive feedback, etc.

Anyway, I know a lot of people have their issues with SW for whatever reason. I'm neutral on incest and don't hold against a developer whatever platform they choose (though it might mean I don't support them financially when I otherwise would). I suppose it's because of those points that I have been perfectly fine with him throughout his VN career. I'm not championing him or anything; I just don't have an issue with him.

To be frank, I think practically every developer has money as their primary motivator. If they didn't, they could never go full-time and would always be putting in 18+-hour days for forever (between their RL jobs and their game development). They still need to put food on the table; they still have rent to pay; they still need to subsist in all the other ways of basic human needs. Many developers also have families they support. If they ignored money as a primary motivator, they'd abandon all RL relationships and their health would rapidly decline. Sometimes, that even results in death.

There have been several developers who died because of physical health issues, and several others who eventually abandon their work because their mental health collapses. I want developers to keep themselves as physically and mentally healthy as possible. One reason is obviously so they can keep working on their creations. But I do have more reasons than that to want them healthy, though.

Anyway, I think SuperWriter is in the same position as most other developers: he needs to live off of whatever income he can generate, which means he has some decisions he has to make from a purely business perspective. Will what he's doing allow him to continue to work regularly on VNs, or will his supporter numbers shrink and force him into looking for earning elsewhere? Entrepreneurs (which solo or small game developers are) have to make difficult decisions, ones that are almost never supported by everyone.

 

[69Creampie]

Generally I'm the same (though not specifically having that game as my "gold standard" — don't think I have a specific game as that). I'm not opposed to developers being on Patreon, even if I'm opposed to the platform itself. But everyone feels differently about all of these kinds of things. I agree that if you complain about a platform but then subscribe to folks on there, I don't think that person has a leg to stand on. And while there are some (many, even) scumbag developers out there, I make it a default position to be on their side, to help encourage their creative endeavors... unless they themselves do something to drive me away — milking subscribers, refusing to listen to or outright insulting those offering constructive feedback, etc.

Anyway, I know a lot of people have their issues with SW for whatever reason. I'm neutral on incest and don't hold against a developer whatever platform they choose (though it might mean I don't support them financially when I otherwise would). I suppose it's because of those points that I have been perfectly fine with him throughout his VN career. I'm not championing him or anything; I just don't have an issue with him.

To be frank, I think practically every developer has money as their primary motivator. If they didn't, they could never go full-time and would always be putting in 18+-hour days for forever (between their RL jobs and their game development). They still need to put food on the table; they still have rent to pay; they still need to subsist in all the other ways of basic human needs. Many developers also have families they support. If they ignored money as a primary motivator, they'd abandon all RL relationships and their health would rapidly decline. Sometimes, that even results in death.

There have been several developers who died because of physical health issues, and several others who eventually abandon their work because their mental health collapses. I want developers to keep themselves as physically and mentally healthy as possible. One reason is obviously so they can keep working on their creations. But I do have more reasons than that to want them healthy, though.

Anyway, I think SuperWriter is in the same position as most other developers: he needs to live off of whatever income he can generate, which means he has some decisions he has to make from a purely business perspective. Will what he's doing allow him to continue to work regularly on VNs, or will his supporter numbers shrink and force him into looking for earning elsewhere? Entrepreneurs (which solo or small game developers are) have to make difficult decisions, ones that are almost never supported by everyone.

I do know of a few devs that do their thing completely free because they simply enjoy doing it (Deaufosse comes to mind) and don't want the pressure that comes with taking people's money. As they say more money = more problems. Granted it can be anywhere from 6-18 months between updates since they work on it when they feel like it, but at least then not only are they not rushed to make something but they are not limited by anything as far as content since there's no payment platform or AVN site rules to worry about at all and the quality reflects that (most have a public and a separate account private Discord for promotion, if not on the less popular AVN sites or Pixiv).

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I do know of a few devs that do their thing completely free because they simply enjoy doing it (Deaufosse comes to mind) and don't want the pressure that comes with taking people's money. As they say more money = more problems. Granted it can be anywhere from 6-18 months between updates since they work on it when they feel like it, but at least then not only are they not rushed to make something but they are not limited by anything as far as content since there's no payment platform or AVN site rules to worry about at all and the quality reflects that (most have a public and a separate account private Discord for promotion, if not on the less popular AVN sites or Pixiv).

That's true, and good on them. But you included the key phrase: "a few devs". The vast majority of games that have that length of development time, whether totally free or not, end up abandoned, though. Every dev decides for themselves what they're comfortable with. I don't hold it against them if they want money so they can do it full-time.

Also, 90% of the time I also hear several people complain about those devs taking forever to get an update done, whether their creation is free or not. Even once-a-year VNs / games get tons of complaints. There are some devs who can manage what you say, but it really is just a few. Doing so takes a very particular kind of person with both stamina and passion that doesn't burn them out eventually. Most of the time, expecting something like that is unrealistic.

As an aside:
While I really like Biggie, the saying mo' money, mo' problems is a myth that sadly keeps getting echoed over the years. The basic premise is extremely flawed. All that's actually happening is a person trades one set of problems for a different set of problems. When you're poor, you have to worry about things like having nowhere to sleep; overworking yourself; having massive stress from no money, which might lead to broken relationships / divorce; malnutrition; and so on. When you're wealthy, you are more likely to be confronted with problems like people taking advantage of you because of your money; possible government investigations into your wealth; becoming well-known / famous so having privacy is a real challenge; people making snap-judgements about you (like that you're an asshole) just because you have money; etc.

If anything, having more money often lessens the severity of many problems because you have the means to solve the problems more quickly: fixing a broke-down car isn't a worry; medical bills aren't a financial burden; etc. But that does, ofc, depend on what the problem actually is. I am middle-class myself and have friends among both the very poor and the fairly rich. I have firsthand experience in hearing and helping out with problems from both ends of the wealth spectrum. I have never seen anything validating the claim that more money gives more problems.

 

[gambit87]

Does anyone know what the chances are that pregnancy is possible at some point in the game?

 

[Ghost'']

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[mooncasterdk]

i am confused , i was checking Superwriter patreon and i saw that Auri model last year was going to be used for a girl called Amari which was supposed to be your ex daughter.
This was clearly changed , and now Auri has that model and your ex has a son with you.
The thing that makes me confused is if Auri previous model will still be used for a new character from the basketball team or if it was discarded , since that model still shows up in the Save / Load section, also because its the model i was the most interested in from this game , and i am hoping it wasn't discarded ...

 

[Allan Trumbull]

First time playing as a mc who have an adult son. I hope it will not cause NTR problems

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

First time playing as a mc who have an adult son. I hope it will not cause NTR problems

Since this is from SuperWriter, you can pretty much guarantee there will be no NTR. He hasn't made a single VN (of something like 6 now) that has it.