Zeruvex
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Don't forget the sex scene in the shower on episode 1 states something that you are a foot taller than your wife
motseer
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Yep, as you can see from my sig, this is something I pay attention to and it's one of the things I approve of about this VN. It is very accurate where it comes to character sizing.
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that would be true on average but his situation is different. the woman wasn't just some woman it was his best friend and it wasn't moving on it was a man who was hurting and vulnerable. But the next question is who decides if it is too soon to move on.
Sure, that's why the wife is partly to blame. He slept with the best friend because she hurt him, but like I said, I think most people would agree getting someone else pregnant a month after a separation is pretty quick. And if you don't then we are living in two separate universes lol
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Not gonna lie Nasira is the most confusing character of this whole story lol. How shes portrayed and represented vs how she acts and actually is, is a far cry from what her design is seeming to try to be. She's hardly positive, she's actually super negative, she's stubborn and overall just kinda shitty in most respects lol.
Sure MC knocking a woman up 1 month during a break when his wife leaves him to listen to her parents that they COULDNT POSSIBLY WORK OUT is a little fast, but, was the intention to knock her up? Nope. He just slept with her. Sleeping with someone a month after a break? Not that fast at all, Even if you arent over your "ex", it doesn't mean you wont be active at all during that time. Thats also a peak emotional state for a guy too. When someone dumps you or wants to go on a break/separation when its not even actually your fault? Thats a powerless struggle, nothing you could do could change that. You coulda been the best person in the world and still got shafted. It's 100% on your partner that made that choice, its not because you fucked up or something. So yeah, MC was probably a right mess over that and Faith was there, available, always had feelings for him and things happened. Insanely normal.
Nasira then after all that decides to give MC a hallpass basically. What in gods name? That makes EVEN LESS sense lol. Shes hung up on an affair-that-wasnt-an-affair to then be like "well I cant get over this! but go fuck everyone you possibly can and be a degenerate and then come back to me and tell me you love me and we can go on as if nothing ever happened!" like yeah nah thats wild lol. You cant get over it and you're opening the door for him to perform the whole kama-sutra with her and whatever/whoever else he wants, along with more potential scandals. Thats logical! lol. Shoulda just had her divorce him over the injury or something. Thats what I expected to be honest, at first. I would never be able to trust her again as a man personally after that ordeal lol. It's not so much that I'm worried she'd go do something herself, as much as I'd be like "so this is now twice she stepped out on me no matter how hard I fought back" That would be an instant relationship killer
Sure MC knocking a woman up 1 month during a break when his wife leaves him to listen to her parents that they COULDNT POSSIBLY WORK OUT is a little fast, but, was the intention to knock her up? Nope. He just slept with her. Sleeping with someone a month after a break? Not that fast at all, Even if you arent over your "ex", it doesn't mean you wont be active at all during that time. Thats also a peak emotional state for a guy too. When someone dumps you or wants to go on a break/separation when its not even actually your fault? Thats a powerless struggle, nothing you could do could change that. You coulda been the best person in the world and still got shafted. It's 100% on your partner that made that choice, its not because you fucked up or something. So yeah, MC was probably a right mess over that and Faith was there, available, always had feelings for him and things happened. Insanely normal.
Nasira then after all that decides to give MC a hallpass basically. What in gods name? That makes EVEN LESS sense lol. Shes hung up on an affair-that-wasnt-an-affair to then be like "well I cant get over this! but go fuck everyone you possibly can and be a degenerate and then come back to me and tell me you love me and we can go on as if nothing ever happened!" like yeah nah thats wild lol. You cant get over it and you're opening the door for him to perform the whole kama-sutra with her and whatever/whoever else he wants, along with more potential scandals. Thats logical! lol. Shoulda just had her divorce him over the injury or something. Thats what I expected to be honest, at first. I would never be able to trust her again as a man personally after that ordeal lol. It's not so much that I'm worried she'd go do something herself, as much as I'd be like "so this is now twice she stepped out on me no matter how hard I fought back" That would be an instant relationship killer
When you're playing a fantasy harem novel, you should pipe down with the logic.Not gonna lie Nasira is the most confusing character of this whole story lol. How shes portrayed and represented vs how she acts and actually is, is a far cry from what her design is seeming to try to be. She's hardly positive, she's actually super negative, she's stubborn and overall just kinda shitty in most respects lol.
Sure MC knocking a woman up 1 month during a break when his wife leaves him to listen to her parents that they COULDNT POSSIBLY WORK OUT is a little fast, but, was the intention to knock her up? Nope. He just slept with her. Sleeping with someone a month after a break? Not that fast at all, Even if you arent over your "ex", it doesn't mean you wont be active at all during that time. Thats also a peak emotional state for a guy too. When someone dumps you or wants to go on a break/separation when its not even actually your fault? Thats a powerless struggle, nothing you could do could change that. You coulda been the best person in the world and still got shafted. It's 100% on your partner that made that choice, its not because you fucked up or something. So yeah, MC was probably a right mess over that and Faith was there, available, always had feelings for him and things happened. Insanely normal.
Nasira then after all that decides to give MC a hallpass basically. What in gods name? That makes EVEN LESS sense lol. Shes hung up on an affair-that-wasnt-an-affair to then be like "well I cant get over this! but go fuck everyone you possibly can and be a degenerate and then come back to me and tell me you love me and we can go on as if nothing ever happened!" like yeah nah thats wild lol. You cant get over it and you're opening the door for him to perform the whole kama-sutra with her and whatever/whoever else he wants, along with more potential scandals. Thats logical! lol. Shoulda just had her divorce him over the injury or something. Thats what I expected to be honest, at first. I would never be able to trust her again as a man personally after that ordeal lol. It's not so much that I'm worried she'd go do something herself, as much as I'd be like "so this is now twice she stepped out on me no matter how hard I fought back" That would be an instant relationship killer
You say she's a negative person and just overall shitty, can you give examples because I can give you examples where she's the total opposite of what you're talking about.Not gonna lie Nasira is the most confusing character of this whole story lol. How shes portrayed and represented vs how she acts and actually is, is a far cry from what her design is seeming to try to be. She's hardly positive, she's actually super negative, she's stubborn and overall just kinda shitty in most respects lol.
Sure MC knocking a woman up 1 month during a break when his wife leaves him to listen to her parents that they COULDNT POSSIBLY WORK OUT is a little fast, but, was the intention to knock her up? Nope. He just slept with her. Sleeping with someone a month after a break? Not that fast at all, Even if you arent over your "ex", it doesn't mean you wont be active at all during that time. Thats also a peak emotional state for a guy too. When someone dumps you or wants to go on a break/separation when its not even actually your fault? Thats a powerless struggle, nothing you could do could change that. You coulda been the best person in the world and still got shafted. It's 100% on your partner that made that choice, its not because you fucked up or something. So yeah, MC was probably a right mess over that and Faith was there, available, always had feelings for him and things happened. Insanely normal.
Nasira then after all that decides to give MC a hallpass basically. What in gods name? That makes EVEN LESS sense lol. Shes hung up on an affair-that-wasnt-an-affair to then be like "well I cant get over this! but go fuck everyone you possibly can and be a degenerate and then come back to me and tell me you love me and we can go on as if nothing ever happened!" like yeah nah thats wild lol. You cant get over it and you're opening the door for him to perform the whole kama-sutra with her and whatever/whoever else he wants, along with more potential scandals. Thats logical! lol. Shoulda just had her divorce him over the injury or something. Thats what I expected to be honest, at first. I would never be able to trust her again as a man personally after that ordeal lol. It's not so much that I'm worried she'd go do something herself, as much as I'd be like "so this is now twice she stepped out on me no matter how hard I fought back" That would be an instant relationship killer
1) in the doctor's office after you get the bad news, she tries to cheer you up by saying everything is going to be okay and coaching might be your true calling, etc
2) She remind you about your sports bar and she will drop her other projects to manage it for you and make it come true
3) When she suggests the separation this time she tells you she will still help with the sports bar and will come on the family trip even though your other baby's mama that she hates is going to be there
4) in this latest episode, you can convince her to start dating and she will suggest seeing a therapist to help your relationship.
Not to mention, she takes you back in the first place All those years ago after finding out you had got your best friend pregnant and didn't do anything about it until right now 20 years later when she returns.
Nasira is a tough, somewhat eccentric and emotional business woman, yes, and she may be doing things a little crazy but love absolutely can be crazy and doesn't have to make sense because it's literally all about how you feel, especially when you're involve other people and pregnancies and separations and all that.
To add a note, I remember reading a story where a woman shot her husband because of jealousy and she went and picked him up from the hospital and the remain married lol! Love is crazy, dude
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kazeiheikaya
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I definitely agree love can be crazy lol.
I pretty much gave my examples, Nasira definitely has good points in her favor, but I focus on the separation aspect and how she just genuinely wants MC to go be a manwhore but prove he still has love for her. Tack on the fact that they're sex compatible, and MC fights his ass off for her and she walks out not once, but twice now. It's just insanely shitty. She leaves Mc because parents dont like that future for her. Instead of affirming MC on her leaving to go fix it and not really Separate but instead handle her affairs with her parents and leave everything as it is. She doesn't. She separates from MC, which in that scenario would leave most men feeling powerless and shitty. Its not something we can actually control. Gotta look at it from the Scope. Basketball local legend gets with girl, who makes the first move, she ends up pregnant, they get married. He stays monogamous and faithful giving up all his fun years for her. Sure, thats reasonable. However, when you turn it around to "Wife with 2 year old that has faithful successful husband, one day walks out on him and tells them they're separating for now because her parents dont approve of him" its not so reasonable.
Junior is 21 I believe they said, Tony is 18. So that's ~3 year gap, so they were married for 2 years and some change before she stepped out if I had to guess based on what we know. They were already married and with a kid either way. If your wife randomly just waltzes out like that you would be pretty inconsolable especially if you truly loved her like that. So best friend Faith comes in and basically becomes his rock, they sleep together. Is that bad? Sure. They probably shouldnt have done that, but is it wrong? Not really, not in my opinion. His wife walked out there was no way to know if this was a 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 5 year separation. She could have never came back. The pregnancy was a total accident they hammer that point home constantly. A month is genuinely pretty long to be without your wife and kid though, it might not seem like it but you'd be going through some shit at that time lol.
My point about Nasira's positivity is shes negative as hell in almost every regard to the relationship, but she basically was in the drivers seat at the biggest point of contention. Then she takes the wheel again and does something else insanely risky and stupid and walks out again leaving MC to have "all the fun he could have had" as a younger man, as his out-of-prime older self. Which lowkey backfires because girls in harem stories just throw pussy as it would be. He brings up multiple times how she's prone to shutting down stuff he says, how she stonewalls things, how she wont even take a single sit down with faith and tony, basically hates tony, etc. Only finally after they return is she willing to do it but after she pushes herself out of the picture again, basically giving the greenlight for MC to go and fuck the girl she cant get over again. It's very strange.
Idk, Just all red flags for me, even how its written is just kinda shitty. I like Nasira, I dont specifically hate her, but shes just confusing and erratic. She has really high good points but also really low bad points. If you disagree, I get it, you dont see it in the same way I do. Nothing can be done about that. But I would say walking out on your partner, even temporarily like that is probably up there in top 3 worst things you can possibly do, and to do it twice. I wouldnt be able to trust the person. Even if it was meant to be a positive experience, the amount of stress, mental strain, and fighting you'd have to do would be so damaging on your relationship.
At the end of the day we're trying to rationalize fiction, but idk just felt like it could have presented in a better way, cause personally it kinda cuts Nasira out for me. I like her design and I think she's a good woman, but theres just so many bad interactions in my opinion that make Faith a prime candidate for the "real choice" Which feels shitty & guilty in a way too lol. I think even if dev went just down the road of "Nasira and Faith reconciling without a break on the trip and opening the door to an open marriage" it would have even been more genuine feeling to me personally lol.
Yeah, the things you consider negative, I see as positive and I just see a person who's flawed. Nasira's parents didn't want her to be married to the MC for whatever reason and she gave into that. So you see that as her being a bad wife, but I see it as a woman who was probably 19 or 20 at the time being pressured by her parents and she eventually went against them and returned to the MC because she loved him. And she stayed with him even though she got another woman pregnant during their month separation, so idk.
I think it will continue. Some people will either love her or hate her because she has a very strong personality and does whatever the hell she wants lol. But she doesn't do it for no reason. In her mind, it's how she's justifying things. If my wife got pregnant by another guy after a month then I don't know what the hell I would do lol. And we all know women are very emotional and can be crazy, of course men too, but that's why there's a meme that says "The hotter she is the crazier she is"
But yeah to wrap it up I just think people have different opinions on her which are not right or wrong.
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Because she is just a vehicle for harem instead of an actual character. Which is not uncommon in games of that type.Not gonna lie Nasira is the most confusing character of this whole story lol. How shes portrayed and represented vs how she acts and actually is, is a far cry from what her design is seeming to try to be. She's hardly positive, she's actually super negative, she's stubborn and overall just kinda shitty in most respects lol.
Sure MC knocking a woman up 1 month during a break when his wife leaves him to listen to her parents that they COULDNT POSSIBLY WORK OUT is a little fast, but, was the intention to knock her up? Nope. He just slept with her. Sleeping with someone a month after a break? Not that fast at all, Even if you arent over your "ex", it doesn't mean you wont be active at all during that time. Thats also a peak emotional state for a guy too. When someone dumps you or wants to go on a break/separation when its not even actually your fault? Thats a powerless struggle, nothing you could do could change that. You coulda been the best person in the world and still got shafted. It's 100% on your partner that made that choice, its not because you fucked up or something. So yeah, MC was probably a right mess over that and Faith was there, available, always had feelings for him and things happened. Insanely normal.
Nasira then after all that decides to give MC a hallpass basically. What in gods name? That makes EVEN LESS sense lol. Shes hung up on an affair-that-wasnt-an-affair to then be like "well I cant get over this! but go fuck everyone you possibly can and be a degenerate and then come back to me and tell me you love me and we can go on as if nothing ever happened!" like yeah nah thats wild lol. You cant get over it and you're opening the door for him to perform the whole kama-sutra with her and whatever/whoever else he wants, along with more potential scandals. Thats logical! lol. Shoulda just had her divorce him over the injury or something. Thats what I expected to be honest, at first. I would never be able to trust her again as a man personally after that ordeal lol. It's not so much that I'm worried she'd go do something herself, as much as I'd be like "so this is now twice she stepped out on me no matter how hard I fought back" That would be an instant relationship killer
If she wasn't the harem-enabler of the game, then you'd see more people pointing out she is acting like a crazy bitch, fostering toxic insecurities for decades. And her pushing him to fuck others, would have been immediately considered weird and possibly deceitful. But since this is going to be a harem (with all the safety that entails), most are happy to turn their brain off and ignore it.
What is weird is dev initially giving players the option to call her out on it, only to force a 180 on the MC in later updates. Either have him happily accepting like a good boy about to get his dick wet with strange pussy, or stick with the choice to call her out on the crazy shit all the way through.
i didn't read all his long post,nasira character are postive she gived him chance to be with others woman while she stay exclusif to him.Not sure if it is a harem game or not.
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After playing when I got to those spots and few other ones I also got that impression of possibly something sexually had gone on between the two before, but they stopped doing things at some point or stuff still was going on and to skirt around things the dev had them use condoms and was probably going to be something that would be a big deal later like Mc finding out or something and would cause bigger issues in their lives like Mc getting mad and not wanting to see her anymore or whatever, but it turned out like it is now where she just acts all suspicious about it kind of and just tells the Mc they are Tony's, and he has them if he ever finds a girl and Mc also suspecting things in both situations.
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