ramvivat

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He's a stupid Psychopath
stupid? interesting! and why do you think so?

psychopath? i.e. mentally apathetic?

you mix the MC himself and his role-playing character (manager). apparently you poorly studied the thoughts of the MC. his thoughts are not the thoughts of a psychopath. he is afraid of breaking his mother. He strangely loves her.
and about the stupid one - when the mother refused to swallow his sperm on camera - how did he act? were his actions a stupid stereotyped repetition in the hope that "this time it will work"? And again - is he definitely a psychopath?
 
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A few grammar things, stuffs isn't a word(well, unless we're talking about stuffing) so you should really just use stuff.
It's also a bit odd that you use a space before question and exclamation marks, but I guess that's probably just a style thing.
 

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stupid? interesting! and why do you think so?

psychopath? i.e. mentally apathetic?

you mix the MC himself and his role-playing character (manager). apparently you poorly studied the thoughts of the MC. his thoughts are not the thoughts of a psychopath. he is afraid of breaking his mother. He strangely loves her.
and about the stupid one - when the mother refused to swallow his sperm on camera - how did he act? were his actions a stupid stereotyped repetition in the hope that "this time it will work"? And again - is he definitely a psychopath?
I believe he has quite clearly a lot of Psychopathic characteristics and Antisocial behaviours.

eloquence, superficial friendliness
exaggerated self-esteem
frequent, pathological lying
cunning and manipulative
complete lack of remorse and guilt
callousness / lack of empathy

exploits others for self / lives at the expense of others
dissolute sexual life / frequently changing sexual contacts
behavioral problems during adolescence
lack of realistic long-term goals
irresponsibility
does not take responsibility for own behavior
criminal activities in several areas

As for the Stupid, I didn't mean it as in unintelligent but more as his Actions (and that he succeeds with them) are often Stupid. At least if you look at them from a logical perspective. But this is noting bad for this Game as I think it is purposefully written this way. What is in fact something why I really like the Game, the Dev finds a good balance between the silliness of the plot and keeping it still down to earth enough so it becomes not totally lunatic. In fact this mix of sillines and seriousness is what let me enjoy the Game in the first place. If it had to be an more serious and gruel approach I couldn't enjoy it at all.
 

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How long would it take to finish this game from start to the end of v0.23 ?
While I don't know how many hours, I did spend a good part of a day playing from start to finish. I was also rendering pics the whole time, so I took a lot of breaks. Point being, there is a lot of content..
 
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How long would it take to finish this game from start to the end of v0.23 ?
While I don't know how many hours, I did spend a good part of a day playing from start to finish. I was also rendering pics the whole time, so I took a lot of breaks. Point being, there is a lot of content..
Maybe I'm just an slowpoke, but for me it's more like a few days. Even on skipping, while checking lewd/sex scenes carefully, it can take good amount of hours. I'm jealous to people who just discovers this game at current state, they can have so much fun.
 

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Optimal would be a dynamically rendered
I find the dynamic tattoo rendering option the most interesting, because if, for example, I don’t want to tattoo Adrianna’s breasts, I can leave this place filled with an empty tattoo (actually leave the place of the tattoo empty) - and I like this much more than any "crap forced by the developer" (c)Breathedge
 

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I would agree that her tenderness is one thing that makes her so appealing. I think of her as probably the most tragic Character so far, with the Love for her stupid Idiot of a Son being the reason for her falling into the MC's clutches. So by pushing her even deeper into the Abyss by forcing her to work the Private Rooms I think it would be too much. Especially as the plot until now was, despite the thematics, quite silly even ridiculous at times. So you probably had to retcon her Character quite a bit for her to being able to cope with it in a way fitting the tone of the plot so far, or ignore that she has a Darker plot that feels kinda out of place between the other more silly ones.
I have two thoughts:
1. This is understandable, from view point of empathy and good, i.e. in real life. But our context is an lewd fantasy game, so what's the point of not pushing everything to the limits and beyond? I can agree that breaking Emma(as well as most of other characters) possibly can make the story kinda darker, but isn't it better than some vanilla way?

2. I think that Emma's fate will be harsh anyway. Because I'm almost shure that Kalyha planning Alex(Emma's son) one day to visit MC's club and discover what his mother has become and also to realise that it's totally related to MC(no way he is not planning such mean "revenge"), and Emma for shure will be aware of it. I can't even imagine emotional damage she will suffer in that case. And most likely her releationship with son will be ruined, he will leave home and etc, which is will cause even more emotional suffering to her.
So maybe better scenario for her is to become a broken whore, then to perform private dances for Alex without a doubt, but, for shure, without sex, just teasing, and for Alex - to become obsessed with visiting her regularly at club and cheaking her videos at MC's porn site/page. Like in trivial NTR story. At least it is a way to both of them to be more or less happy, in an crooked and sick way, but still.

I think this game didn't open up yet(just recently started to), but it gonna have strong noir vibes in outcome.
 
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I just hope the Dev is truth to the initial vision of the game not having NTR or whoring of the main girls, no matter how much some people try to pressure for it

There is a reason why every poll about the subject ends in one way
While I think it is highly unlikely, he might have a random guy fuck one of his girls at the club just to humiliate her. I would put Emma at the top of the list on the off chance that were to happen, just because he seems to degrade her first and the most. Since the MC would be behind it, I would not consider that NTR. I assume you would.

I don't think the Dev would ever go down the path of one of MC's girls cheating on him (even though it is somewhat implied with Linda, since she is portrayed as happily married). That would go against the whole game, imo. Unless it is some sort of bad ending scenario - which I personally would not like.
 

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I don't think the Dev would ever go down the path of one of MC's girls cheating on him (even though it is somewhat implied with Linda, since she is portrayed as happily married).
if the dev adheres to the logic of the plot, then this "turn" cannot be. Linda is pleased with the current state of affairs.
I am confident in my words about Linda.
My reasoning is: if Linda thought she didn't want even the slightest chance of meeting the MC, that "rapist", she wouldn't be dressing up in an orange yoga swimsuit. and in general, if we are not talking about the direct order of the master, then Linda has full freedom of action. and she, Linda, that is - surprisingly - went to the rapist's house.
no. there is no reason to think Linda is prone to rash moves. even cheating on her husband with a gang, too, although it was forced, it was still not rash.
now - Linda got a stud. From our Russian girls, I learned the cynical expression "Change the dick for the dick - just lose time." so Linda is fine with her personal life.
 
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if the dev adheres to the logic of the plot, then this "turn" cannot be. Linda is pleased with the current state of affairs.
I am confident in my words about Linda.
My reasoning is: if Linda thought she didn't want even the slightest chance of meeting the MC, that "rapist", she wouldn't be dressing up in an orange yoga swimsuit. and in general, if we are not talking about the direct order of the master, then Linda has full freedom of action. and she, Linda, that is - surprisingly - went to the rapist's house.
no. there is no reason to think Linda is prone to rash moves. even cheating on her husband with a gang, too, although it was forced, it was still not rash.
now - Linda got a stud. From our Russian girls, I learned the cynical expression "Change the dick for the dick - just lose time." so Linda is fine with her personal life.
I think they feel they should be outraged but at the end of the day, they will keep coming back for more of MC's abuse and cock.
 
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Vakkyr

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I have two thoughts:
1. This is understandable, from view point of empathy and good, i.e. in real life. But our context is an lewd fantasy game, so what's the point of not pushing everything to the limits and beyond? I can agree that breaking Emma(as well as most of other characters) possibly can make the story kinda darker, but isn't it better than some vanilla way?
I believe this depends heavily on what you want/expect from a Story. Pushing everything to max is not necessarily better then keeping it Vanilla. I think it's the mix of meeting and breaking the readers expectation what often makes the difference, besides many other things like Pacing, continuity and more. A "full force everething over 9k" type of Story can just be as boring and cliché ridden as a more tamer Vanilla one.
2. I think that Emma's fate will be harsh anyway. Because I'm almost shure that Kalyha planning Alex(Emma's son) one day to visit MC's club and discover what his mother has become and also to realise that it's totally related to MC(no way he is not planning such mean "revenge"), and Emma for shure will be aware of it. I can't even imagine emotional damage she will suffer in that case. And most likely her releationship with son will be ruined, he will leave home and etc, which is will cause even more emotional suffering to her.
So maybe better scenario for her is to become a broken whore, then to perform private dances for Alex without a doubt, but, for shure, without sex, just teasing, and for Alex - to become obsessed with visiting her regularly at club and cheaking her videos at MC's porn site/page. Like in trivial NTR story. At least it is a way to both of them to be more or less happy, in an crooked and sick way, but still.
I would say Emma's fate was already quite dark if you look at the other Woman. Adriana is almost treated like a raw egg in comparison, Jenna is the fiery one that almost provoked it with how she treated the MC, Linda is probably the second to pity because she only got cought by her past, while Emma's only "mistake" was that she has a stupid Son whom she loves dearly.
For the other ones like Kate or the Bimbo (forgott her Name), they are already quite "dirty minded" and MC is more amplifying their fetishes as corupting or breaking them.

Where I agree is that most likely there is something planned with Emma and Alex, just as I hope for something with Linda and Rebecca. Although I believe making Emma (or anyone) to a broken Whore has more problems to it then me having a soft spot for Emma. In the last update we got introduced to the Club as being one of a rather high standard, one with a certain reputation if not fame to it. Same goes for the 3 Dancers we met. So any visibly broken/unwillingly Performers would be, while probably having some fans, hurting the Club.

So I believe there are many other Girls that would fit better as Sexworkers then Emma, Kate with her exhibitionist kink is a no brainer I think, the Bimbo would fit right in as well in my opinion, maybe even Linda and her daughter if Linda really hides a "Wild Girl" behind her "modest Wife" facade. Generally playing Rebecca and Linda against each other to corrupt them both would be awesome I think, and fitting with their personalitys so far as well.

For Emma and Alex I agree that MC will definitely expose Emma at some point. But I believe that for this she doesn't need to be a broken whore, it would be quite contrary in my opinion. If I had to come up with a sort of Roadmap for Emmas corruption/MCs revenge on Alex I probably would think something like this:

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On the question of the general tone of the Game, I believe it isn't meant to become as Dark as it probably could be. As I said before the Story has so many Stupid and at Times ridiculous twist and turns that help to lighten the mood that a suddenly much darker turn would feel strange in my opinion.
One example where I felt that way, was the Linda Bathroom Rape at Adrianas Birthday. It was the only Scene, that I can remember right now, where the Woman in the end "didn't kinda like it" like with most of Jenna's Scenes as example. It felt oddly out of place and too serious/gruel for how the overall mood of the Game until then was, and after the Scene again became, at least for me. I believe a good clue on what direction the Game could go in the future is the recent change/transformation of Emma and Jenna. Both have kind of "come around" to accept there kink, desires, what ever you want to call it and could become willingly and happy participants in the future. So a kind of "Happy End" is possible for all of the Characters, or at least most of them.

Phew, that escalated a little bit, sorry for the Wall of Text xD
 
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I would bet three flicks that the MC won't do anything bad to Emma.
Since there is a strip club, I would be surprised if there was no stripping. What good is it to have a harem if you can't show it off, right? :)
They may be more than willing by the time we get to that part of the story.
 
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