michelita

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A stripclub is a very good place to restore her career...

Regarding NTR: it does look like a place that's prone to it but this is isn't a NTR game Kalyha assured. Still nothing "wrong" with Adrianna showing the goods to audiences. This isn't new.

Note I use quotes because I don't mind NTR or whatever qualifies as NTR or not but respect other's opinions
 

lordofpie

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soz if this question has been answered before, but the current attitude of the girls towards the MC if obvs very negative which makes sense as he's a scumbag.

Is the endgame goal to eventually break them so they become more accepting and "loving" to the MC, or is the game always gonna have them be unhappy when fucking with him?
 

DA22

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soz if this question has been answered before, but the current attitude of the girls towards the MC if obvs very negative which makes sense as he's a scumbag.

Is the endgame goal to eventually break them so they become more accepting and "loving" to the MC, or is the game always gonna have them be unhappy when fucking with him?
Well unless he changes, why should they ever become happy with it unless they would be serious masochists which would have already shown in game and even then he shows no ability to care at all for them beyond his own needs and wants or even some minor empathy so he could play them smarter. So even a masochist likely would want to run if she could. Broken and soulless maybe and stop resisting, but happy? That is a Japanese porn fantasy. :p

This is a game about a psychopath MC without any empathy or even ability to listen and change his strategy based upon that so ladies are bit happier about their treatment but just takes what he wants, not a nice son that loves the women around him deep down even if he shows that bit harshly :p.
 
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soz if this question has been answered before, but the current attitude of the girls towards the MC if obvs very negative which makes sense as he's a scumbag.

Is the endgame goal to eventually break them so they become more accepting and "loving" to the MC, or is the game always gonna have them be unhappy when fucking with him?
This is all speculation but I think there are signs of the girls "falling" for the MC, or at least enjoying sex with him. Emma already started with the "what am I doing? Why do I feel like sucking his cock" line of thought without being pushed to do so.
It is still early days for the game, though. We will see.
 

otoboke

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..he could play them smarter.
..change his strategy based upon that so ladies are bit happier about their treatment.
I don't know, guys, what you want and why people keep complain about MC's behavior. It's easy to be just spectator and to say "Oh, if I were a creator - I would make it smarter". But there is only two ways to implement scenarios you want:
1. Much more slower corruption, like x10 slower, in this case in 0.18 you would get only cheek kiss or shoulder rub, and cherish hope to get handjob in 2022 year, or at least 2023.
2. Make plot just regular vanilla shit, with girls ready to mount MC's cock after few conversations and hugs.
I doubt you really want it.

This is all speculation but I think there are signs of the girls "falling" for the MC, or at least enjoying sex with him. Emma already started with the "what am I doing? Why do I feel like sucking his cock" line of thought without being pushed to do so.
It is still early days for the game, though. We will see.
Yeah, Jenna also was definitely like their BJ-sessions more and more. Even after first BJ she comes back to home so in heat, so she tried to continue fun with her husband. Before MC did force her to sex and she behave like she absolutelly hate it, I was expect Jenna to be the first girl to fall in love with him.
 
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quorkboy

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I would wish for them to never fall for him, and the ending to be with them still miserable and under his control. I was already a little disappointed at Emma starting to enjoy it, and I'm hoping what's actually happening is she is becoming sex-obsessed but will continue to hate him and want him to stop using her. And that her uncontrolled lust will make her more unhappy because her mind and body are betraying her.

Why? Because one of the things that made this story stand out is that it hasn't so far fallen into the ever so predictable and common "women who are used and abused and start to love it." The MC is a sadistic creep who will never care for these women, he's just taking what he wants for his own pleasure.

I enjoy a good romantic story, and all sorts of things in between those and this. But the way this story has been so far is - at least in my experience - exceedingly rare.
 

pillowcase35

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I would wish for them to never fall for him, and the ending to be with them still miserable and under his control. I was already a little disappointed at Emma starting to enjoy it, and I'm hoping what's actually happening is she is becoming sex-obsessed but will continue to hate him and want him to stop using her. And that her uncontrolled lust will make her more unhappy because her mind and body are betraying her.

Why? Because one of the things that made this story stand out is that it hasn't so far fallen into the ever so predictable and common "women who are used and abused and start to love it." The MC is a sadistic creep who will never care for these women, he's just taking what he wants for his own pleasure.

I enjoy a good romantic story, and all sorts of things in between those and this. But the way this story has been so far is - at least in my experience - exceedingly rare.
I would prefer the option to choose between a manipulation route where they fall for him, and a domination route, where the girls just become complacent with him controlling them.
 

mcbsrng

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I definitely don't want the relationship to change so they're into it--that would detract significantly from the game for me.
 

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Well unless he changes, why should they ever become happy with it unless they would be serious masochists which would have already shown in game and even then he shows no ability to care at all for them beyond his own needs and wants or even some minor empathy so he could play them smarter. So even a masochist likely would want to run if she could. Broken and soulless maybe and stop resisting, but happy? That is a Japanese porn fantasy. :p

This is a game about a psychopath MC without any empathy or even ability to listen and change his strategy based upon that so ladies are bit happier about their treatment but just takes what he wants, not a nice son that loves the women around him deep down even if he shows that bit harshly :p.
This is a porn fantasy and girls falling in love with him would not at all be out of place or any more contrived than anything else going on in the game.
 
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quorkboy

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I would prefer the option to choose between a manipulation route where they fall for him, and a domination route, where the girls just become complacent with him controlling them.
If the dev has the resources to do this, then why not? As long as one of the routes is them still hating it, not just being quietly accepting and giving up, but continuing to feel shame and sadness.

But people need to be aware of the kind of game they're playing here. Perhaps the dev's intention always was to provide the route where they fall for him, but I it shouldn't be expected. And it would be out of place for the MC to develop feelings for the women. The intro warns that the MC is a kind of sociopath, the type of person for whom emotions such as empathy, compassion, and love, are unknown.
 

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And it would be out of place for the MC to develop feelings for the women. The intro warns that the MC is a kind of sociopath, the type of person for whom emotions such as empathy, compassion, and love, are unknown.
Yes, but don't demonize MC too much, he loves his mom and never did use violence to her.
 
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DA22

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Yes, but don't demonize MC too much, he loves his mom and never did use violence to her.
Not physical violence no as such, well emotional or sexual violence is no better and if you think he is blameless of that .........

I think someone said something about me saying if MC played it any better and read the women any better. Thing I meant with that is that the girls have given some hints especially Mom around her birthday that by using just a bit gentler and more caring touch he could exploit her doubts and some willingness to give in, with her being more open to accept what happens and some other girls did as well. MC misses that every time though due to how he is and goes full out anyway without showing any (if even just pretended ) care since he completely misses those signs due to the fact he is a psychopath. Great writing from dev, whether you like the subject matter as such or not. :p

Considering a loving path, well fact dev has been more realistic about it and How MC is and consistent in that is actually one of the things that makes this game more interesting as most and that the game is not that Japanese porn trope of abused female loves her abuser, so yeah I would also prefer it myself that they do not start to love him, it is one of the things that makes this game unique. Though everyone is free to feel different about that of course and wish different. :p
 
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otoboke

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Not physical violence no as such, well emotional or sexual violence is no better and if you think he is blameless of that
Maybe so, I'm not sure, it's discussable, but I think and Adrianna do not look like hurted in any way, she just concerned about incest taboo. Well, maybe just little, like "oh, he always wants more, he never listen to me". We can classify it like violence, but this type of violence too common and happens in every family, like kids behave bad, parents punish them, grown up kids hurts parrent's feelings and not match their expectations.
 

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Maybe so, I'm not sure, it's discussable, but I think and Adrianna do not look like hurted in any way, she just concerned about incest taboo. Well, maybe just little, like "oh, he always wants more, he never listen to me". We can classify it like violence, but this type of violence too common and happens in every family, like kids behave bad, parents punish them, grown up kids hurts parrent's feelings and not match their expectations.
Well let us not discuss this further, but putting a butt plug against someones wishes up their ass (which since we are not aware in game she is fucking herself with dildos there regularly, but is a virgin there or not used there at best for a long time would be at best uncomfortable or even somewhat painful to start with for starters) and forcing them to that, there is a word for that and hint it is not freely given consent. :p This game is about exactly that word though in the end and a game with pixels, so no use to debate that or get moral over it or to sugar coat it. :ROFLMAO:
 
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