VN Ren'Py Restore Her Career [v0.31] [Kalyha]

[otoboke]

Femdom or gay have zero prior support, buildup, or hints in any previous content, while other men touching the girls certainly does (as he said^)

So yes, they are quite different actually

Even if MC+Alex+dog+Alex's Grand Ma sex scene would being considered, I can't imagine myself making a scene here, breaking keyboards, typing that dev will lost me if he dare to implement it even as optional.

but if there's any NTR or any more sharing It will get the tag, and I'll give it a bad review, and walk away.

LMAO.

 

[Pixillin']

Even if MC+Alex+dog+Alex's Grand Ma sex scene would being considered, I can't imagine myself making a scene here, breaking keyboards, typing that dev will lost me if he dare to implement it even as optional.

I'm not "making a scene" or breaking keyboards - just stating a fact. I've walked away from a few games recently because the Dev took a turn I didn't like. If this turns into an NTR game, I'll walk away, and the tags will say NTR which will cause a lot of people to just skip over it. (Most people don't even take the time to see if it's optional or not).

 

[MAGO-DAG]

This is all nonsense, I can't wait for the futa where every LI will give the MC an unexpected surprise with the futas

 

[tmlxxx]

Femdom or gay have zero prior support, buildup, or hints in any previous content, while other men touching the girls certainly does (as he said^)

So yes, they are quite different actually

A game without NTR doesn’t make those who enjoy it stop playing.

A game with NTR, however, drives away those who dislike it.

It’s a matter of catering to a niche at the expense of a broader audience.

 

[tmlxxx]

I don't see how whoring out his bitches can change RHC's MC. He shared Scarlett and no one died. Emma and Kate confirmed to work as strippers, so they will show themselves to the club full of some shady greasy men, pleasing their eyes, and maybe even get some ass slaps from them here and there, and no one will die too.

If Kalyha were listen to the most orthodoxal non-ntr theorists and experts back then, we would not have strip club content or this scene for example: View attachment 4565131

Stretching NTR term as much as you pleased and then asking for no ntr is practically asking heavily depraved game to be more vanilla (less depraved). Which is beyound BS. As pretty much any post of ntr haters.

There’s a big difference between NTR and Exhibitionism/Voyeurism.

 

[hello.jpg]

A game without NTR doesn’t make those who enjoy it stop playing.

A game with NTR, however, drives away those who dislike it.

It’s a matter of catering to a niche at the expense of a broader audience.

The entire problem with this discussion is I can't tell if you're talking about actual NTR (like the MC getting cucked), or consensual sharing, or abusive whoring a LI out, or simple touching in a strip club. Some people lump all these together, and it's them I'm talking to when I say the story already has those elements (i.e. Scarlett and the strip club).

So the ship's already sailed if your "NTR" definition is that all-encompassing

 

[Pixillin']

The entire problem with this discussion is I can't tell if you're talking about actual NTR (like the MC getting cucked), or consensual sharing, or abusive whoring a LI out, or simple touching in a strip club. Some people lump all these together, and it's them I'm talking to when I say the story already has those elements (i.e. Scarlett and the strip club).

So the ship's already sailed if your "NTR" definition is that all-encompassing

Personally I'm not even a fan of the strip club, and took a hard pass on even sharing a side girl - but MC getting cucked, or sharing Adriana, or abusive whoring out Li would be too far for me. I do want the harem of pets and slaves, I do not want to share them with anyone.

 

[internet_says]

The entire problem with this discussion is I can't tell if you're talking about actual NTR (like the MC getting cucked), or consensual sharing, or abusive whoring a LI out, or simple touching in a strip club. Some people lump all these together, and it's them I'm talking to when I say the story already has those elements (i.e. Scarlett and the strip club).

So the ship's already sailed if your "NTR" definition is that all-encompassing

Also Netori is also considered NTR where the MC steals another man's wife or girlfriend or in some cases mother, and all of that has been included from the start in this game.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

This whole discussion started because otoboke didn't like how someone said something about non-ntr...
it seemed like a completely innocent and laudatory comment... so let's all calm down until the moderators come and clear the entire thread.

And as for otoboke , don't take it to heart, none of us even touched or said that there was ntr in the game until you started raising a strange topic, Showing his displeasure, as if there was NTR there,. Peace to all, because we are all perverts here and enjoying the game.

 

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Someday the site tag realignment will come, split up Netorare , Netori and Netorase, and save us from these arguments, right? right???

Until then, happy gooning.

 

[otoboke]

This whole discussion started because otoboke didn't like how someone said something about non-ntr...
it seemed like a completely innocent and laudatory comment... so let's all calm down until the moderators come and clear the entire thread.

And as for otoboke , don't take it to heart, none of us even touched or said that there was ntr in the game until you started raising a strange topic, Showing his displeasure, as if there was NTR there,. Peace to all, because we are all perverts here and enjoying the game.

Don't put it like I'm the one who being mad here.
I just wonder why people asking for excluding some kind of content, instead of asking for adding some. And why even optional/skipable content bothers them to the point of being unable to bear it. And everytime it's about this one particular tag. Something weird going on about this.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Don't put it like I'm the one who being mad here.
I just wonder why people asking for excluding some kind of content, instead of asking for adding some. And why even optional/skipable content bothers them to the point of being unable to bear it. And everytime it's about this one particular tag. Something weird going on about this.

No no no, you probably misunderstood his comment.. the guy who initially wrote about ntr as something like "exclusively", did not mean "excluding content".

The thing is, there are a couple of games for perversion that are a genre purely for non-ntr, or they turn into ntr..
especially games with corruption incest and very few for harem, so the guy just praised the game supposedly "with excluding ntr content"...

it's just that harem developers make very few such depraved games with dirty ideas for the genre... he didn't even say to exclude the content and he's not even against it being optional.

 

[otoboke]

No no no, you probably misunderstood his comment.. the guy who initially wrote about ntr as something like "exclusively", did not mean "excluding content".

The thing is, there are a couple of games for perversion that are a genre purely for non-ntr, or they turn into ntr..
especially games with corruption incest and very few for harem, so the guy just praised the game supposedly "with excluding ntr content"...

it's just that harem developers make very few such depraved games with dirty ideas for the genre... he didn't even say to exclude the content and he's not even against it being optional.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

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Hey, if you don't want to understand, I'll understand you. I don't mind you defending ntr, although ntr isn't even in the game, I don't know why you react like that to everyone

 

[otoboke]

I've walked away from a few games recently because the Dev took a turn I didn't like.

What is these games you mentioned? Do you mind to tell me the titles?

 

[Allan Trumbull]

Rape is done by the mc ?? Is it avoidable??

 

[MAGO-DAG]

What is these games you mentioned? Do you mind to tell me the titles?

Discussing other games is off topic, I'm sure you should know, we are at RHC thread, right? As for your question, I'll answer briefly: there are a couple of games that were like vanilla.

In one of the vanilla games, for some very unusual and unexpected way, he added swing content, which even shocked most fans, now there are already ntr fans who will demand similar content and ridicule vanilla fans. So why did he add them to the game?

I think it's not hard to guess. There is another game that turned from a harem only for fucking LI with any characters, but then suddenly the game sank to the bottom.

So as I said, for some games fan fetishes won't always help, you have to be careful with everything and for any developer it's always important to follow his plan.

I'm not saying this because you or anyone else is forced to defend ntr and yell at us as if we were saying that the game has such genres, I'm saying this for the good of the developer. This game already deserves full attention. If Dev wants to add such content, that's his business, and not to push such content on everyone from nowhere, then there will be confusion and discontent!

 

[WigglyWorld84]

Rape is done by the mc ?? Is it avoidable??

No. It is central to the plot and to MC being a psycho. So, it should not be skipplable, regardless.

If fictional rape bothers you (real rape should bother us all!), you are more into the, "this game might not be for you" territory. Good luck!

 

[otoboke]

Discussing other games is off topic, I'm sure you should know, we are at RHC thread, right?

Asking for game suggestions or pointing at some is not quite discussing.

there are a couple of games that were like vanilla.
I think it's not hard to guess.

I have no idea. I'm really following a very few games, so didn't hear about any drama, except of some games with really slow developing pace so they barely progressed in last few years. Can you please name exact games you are refering too? I like good drama.

you have to be careful with everything and for any developer it's always important to follow his plan.

I'm saying this for the good of the developer. This game already deserves full attention. If Dev wants to add such content, that's his business, and not to push such content on everyone from nowhere, then there will be confusion and discontent!

Now this is offtopic. And another bunch of cheap manipulations and intimidations under veil of well-wishing. An attempt to apply pressure on dev.
Chill with such insinuations. I'm sure Kalyha is good without your worry and advices about what he should and should not to do with his game.

I'm saying this for the good of the developer.
LMAO. It can't be more vulgar than being formulated in this way.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Chill with such insinuations. I'm sure Kalyha is good without your worry and advices about what he should and should not to do with his game.

Did I say something the other way around? Or am I simply forbidden from giving advice to some developers so that they don't have to deal with whining from fans later? Let it be your way then, I won’t argue further if you really don’t want to understand, it feels like I’m talking to a wall.

I'm saying this for the good of the developer.
LMAO. It can't be more vulgar than being formulated in this way.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad when you realize how shitty the situations can be if you ruin the original plan because of fan demands.
Although, who am I explaining this to? I'll just stick to my opinion, and you to yours. And good luck to Kalyha, and don't pay attention to our disputes, each of us is right and wrong.