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That's just plain wrong. World of difference. It's the difference between playing with toys together, or someone stealing your toy.
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People insisting NTR and sharing are the exact same thing annoys me because it constantly creates these arguments over definition.
Guys, you can dislike both, that's fine. But they're two different fetishes/types of content
Guys, you can dislike both, that's fine. But they're two different fetishes/types of content
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Yeah, sure, only listening to NONTR fans ends well. Give me a break.Never forget, listening to fan service forever will never end well.
We've been through this with various Avn's and we know how some games get worse in terms of story if you listen to fan ideas rather than follow your own story.
Of course I have nothing against fans favorite genre and ideas, just a warning.
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I tried to run few games in Joiplay and never succeed. They usually launches but then shuts after few seconds. Joiplai made for light textbased visual novels, with less than 1GB size, not for eroges that tends to weight mercilessly.
What source engine is this game made from if that's the right word, like is it honey select or DAZ or what?
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Sigh... you again, and again you with your
I understand that you are the most devoted fan of this game that you are so ready to fall on your knees just praising it, but sometimes you need to be more careful with your desires!
Before you answer me, think again about what I'm talking about: it doesn't matter whose fans of the genre they are, but if the developers listen to whining and their desires, the game can turn into fan service than the story of its own developer, are you ready to sacrifice your story to the background just because you are paid by fans for some ideas and then the story will no longer be needed by anyone? I understand if the developers organized a vote to understand what some fans want or which of the girls to pay attention to, but not to that extent...
Similar things have already happened with a couple of games that the results of the developers did not finish the game and disappeared, or simply leave the game without a sequel and start developing another, because all interest has disappeared...
and you're telling me about some ntr?
Sigh, people are so strange as if they just reveal their favorite genre by doing, although I did not even mention them.
I don't want to start an argument, so good luck to you if you like such positions from fanaticism and enjoy the game I meant fan services "in-game" not real life fan services . It's like you're pushing someone to become porn star but you are not providing fan services for the stuffs. Definitely I can simply request for sharing scenes (again NTR and sharing has a huge huge huge difference. Ntr means mc loses his/her love interest to someone else. Sharing is basically partners having multiple partners with equal participation of the couple, like orgies and groupies fall under sharing.)Never forget, listening to fan service forever will never end well.
We've been through this with various Avn's and we know how some games get worse in terms of story if you listen to fan ideas rather than follow your own story.
Of course I have nothing against fans favorite genre and ideas, just a warning.
But yes when there's significant amount of public humiliations have been constantly increasing, almost teasing and letting main girls getting verbally humiliated by strangers, sharing services can be a wonderful idea.
It is linear though there is some choice but it is more about preference of how the MC behaves (nice or mean) and then between what action you take (spank or not) but overall doesn't impact the story just the scene pertaining to that choice.
As far as pacing I think it is paced well, it may be slow for some used to other similarly themed games that basically race to see how quickly they can show every character fully corrupted (ie: Corruption, Nympho Tamer) but with that slower pacing you get to see the the corruption process and with the expressed thoughts of the characters being corrupted it is a nice touch that shows the back and forth battling what is right and wrong in their head over time. And it does accelerate and different characters are paced differently.
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Bruh, not only I did understand your comment, but I foresaw this type of answer. Despite it's formally right, context and nuances makes the different angle: somehow it only posts where people requests for NTR or sharing, that triggers you to answer that they should keep those wishes to themselves. Never opposite.
Also, I'm not sure(no way I'm gonna search thru over 5 thousand posts), but I believe that you mentioned before that exactly games which developers bring NTR elements, suffered the downfall and abandonment as a result.
So the mood of your general message is kinda clear.
And yeah, you was so in haste to answer to that dude who was discoursing about porn and fanservice, so you didn't even notice what exactly he means.
More over, any devs unlikely needs protection from any other kink fans, except non-ntr. Because any other else requests for kinks they like, while only non-ntr fanatics says things like "dev, if you will do X, I will slam the
And to add to that, about which side the dev should be defended from: Kalyha already impacted from non-ntr fans influence. Only shit storm they made, enforced him to make a statement that some characters will never get into certain story path. Which is I would like to stay uncertain, as it was before.
So you are:
1. Too late.
2. Biased.
3. Fighting with the wrong side.
While I took the opposite side only when I witnessed that violence against the freedom of creativity.
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The visual novel itself (sequence of events) made on RenPy engine, while images rendered in Honey Select engine.
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I remember at least 2.5 threesome scenes and one gangbang (the 0.5 is because one of them is just handjob/fingering, but simultaneously by two girls). And Adrianna participated in 1.5 of them. (But I didn't played last update yet, so maybe there more).
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You take too much on yourself, I just answered what it can lead to in the future for the benefit of the developer.
Therefore, if you like the developer to really implement all the fetishes of the fans in the game, then let it be your way.
But I will not give up my opinion. It does not matter whether it is non-ntr or ntr. This applies to every other genre. If the developer initially created a game for ntr and suddenly he organized a vote where all the fans want to see vanilla scenes in them or a scene where only MC fucks every girl, I am sure there would be discontent from ntr fans, the same applies and vice versa.
As a result, the game will turn into fuck-fast when the dev runs out of ideas because of the fans and it will be too late since all the meaning has already been lost and in this situation many will not see the end of the game and will close it hastily.
You remain with your opinion, I remain with mine. But I never hid the fact that I'm not a fan of ntr, but I respect the genre and their genres be ntr or harem, I just avoid what I don't like like any normal fan. but when fans of both climb in there and demand a scene it ruins the immersion
You just refuse to understand something. So let's end it here and move on. Let's just enjoy the game and mind our own business, right? All the best!
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Manipulation from the textbook of manipulations.
Another bunch of manipulations and dark prophecies, under sauce of not being linked to any particular scenario, but of course, in a RHC's case, in the case if it's route will not match your expectations.
When it's story in early development, how do you know in advance it's genre and certain plot twists/elements? I mean in general. Isn't the uncertainty and unpredictability is what distinguishes a good story?
And predicting your obvious answer: before Kalyha made his public statement about "no ntr" for the first time, protagonist was never declaring takes like "you will always be only mine and no one elses". At the same time he was starting a porn buisness, willingly sharing his mom's photos and videos in the net and encouraging fans to comment their content more actively. It not looks like behaviour of the person who gets too nervous about posibility that his lady will please someone else's eyes or feelings.
To make it plausible, shut some user that asks for excluding sharing or ntr once, for a change. Link for such post made in the past is also ok.
Still, I don't see anything wrong about players/readers/watchers of any fiction asking for events they like, especially when creators don't answer to that with making spoilers.
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Sigh... I heard you, apparently I offended you somewhere? You just came out of nowhere and answered me, you don't want to understand me, so be it. You won, and as you can see I turned out to be a manipulator, okay, sigh... Enjoy the freedom of creativity, ahem...
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No, you are actualy one of the most adequate ntr-haters. I just think you are not sincere or bad at getting yourself understanded.Sigh... I heard you, apparently I offended you somewhere? You just came out of nowhere and answered me, you don't want to understand me, so be it. You won, and as you can see I turned out to be a manipulator, okay, sigh... Enjoy the freedom of creativity, ahem...
Just try to imagine how it looks from another perspective, while you are not giving much of opposite signs (and keep in mind that there is a lot of users who writes similar sentences):
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In fact, this is not true. I'm just a person who does not like how some people like to ruin the immersion of the developers with their ideas, then whine "why don't we get what we want?". "Same boring content again?" "We want this, do that" without respecting the developers' ideas
Considering how you ridiculed the second game from Kalyha, you are acting ugly considering me a <manipulator>, while you yourself want the dev to spend more time on this game but you are against the wishes of others who are also waiting for an update to the second game...
how are you better than me?
I know this is off topic, but the way you react and are so attached to this game is too much, as if you are ready to do anything for this game even if you appear in scenes as someone betraying MC, futa and scat, but yeah, this is freedom of creativity, nothing can be done.
Just try to imagine how it looks from another perspective, while you are not giving much of opposite signs (and keep in mind that there is a lot of users who writes similar sentences):
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