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Oh, not discounting she time travelled....there's just no evidence...anywhere...at all...(tatoos are not evidence) that she went forward...in time...or that it's even possible. Yet...at least.

As for Darci...I'm in a very, very, very small minority in that I cannot stand her character at all...so...matters not to me in that regard.
Valid for not caring about darci (but u crazy) but can you offer how you personally think the tattoos got there in two days all while "being in a cabin hidden in the woods"? Not attacking you just interested in another perspective that imo would create a potential weak point in the games writing
 

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Oh, not discounting she time travelled....there's just no evidence...anywhere...at all...(tatoos are not evidence) that she went forward...in time...or that it's even possible. Yet...at least.

As for Darci...I'm in a very, very, very small minority in that I cannot stand her character at all...so...matters not to me in that regard.
i'm with ya there while I do think she did time travel cause of the tattoo's that's only because it's the only thing that makes sense in my head for the time being. But yeah not really good enough evidence to say she did and wasn't a cause and effect of us time traveling.

100% on Darci tho while I dont dislike her character when she isn't trying to do lewd scenes with the MC. I do dislike how forced her lewds and character feels during the lewd scenes. However I still do them because content but yeah I say im mixed on her character she is on the lower end of the LI list for me in this game for sure.
 

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i'm with ya there while I do think she did time travel cause of the tattoo's that's only because it's the only thing that makes sense in my head for the time being. But yeah not really good enough evidence to say she did and wasn't a cause and effect of us time traveling.
i dont think it was a case of us doing something in the past because iirc MC verbally points out the tattoos and skylar makes a comment about them which she would not need to do if she had them "the whole time"

if something we did in the past made her get them she would instead say "what do you mean ive had these for x years/months?"

Edit: if skylar does comment on them she could just be purposefully misleading MC (which would require her knowing about the mechanics of time travel better than the MC)
 

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Valid for not caring about darci (but u crazy) but can you offer how you personally think the tattoos got there in two days all while "being in a cabin hidden in the woods"? Not attacking you just interested in another perspective that imo would create a potential weak point in the games writing
Honestly, I have no reasonable answer so stuck really. There could be a number of plausible reasons but nothing I'd state as a good or even logical assumption. I have no ideas as of yet. Again, definitely not discounting the time travel, I think looking at everything, that is a reasonable and logical explanation for her disappearance at this point (given everything else that has happened)...I'm just not hooked at all on the travelling into the future as there is literally zero evidence of it...or that it's possible (so far that we know from the facts presented within the story). Back in time...20 years...perfectly feasible as we have already been shown with ourselves.
 

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Honestly, I have no reasonable answer so stuck really. There could be a number of plausible reasons but nothing I'd state as a good or even logical assumption. I have no ideas as of yet. Again, definitely not discounting the time travel, I think looking at everything, that is a reasonable and logical explanation for her disappearance at this point (given everything else that has happened)...I'm just not hooked at all on the travelling into the future as there is literally zero evidence of it...or that it's possible (so far that we know from the facts presented within the story). Back in time...20 years...perfectly feasible as we have already been shown with ourselves.
I was hoping I didnt come off as confrontational because there are for sure other possibilities, I dont even really think her "going missing" for a day or two needs to be explained. She is a "rebellious" (as long as her mommy doesnt tell her what to do :HideThePain:) teenage girl it wouldn't surprise me if she did just go to the next town over or visited a friend that lives "off the grid" (fits her punkish skating aesthetic) but couple that with her getting a new design and for sure something is up.

Do you not consider the travel from 1999 -> 2019 to be forward time travel? something more like the time machine is just "returning to the point it was used"? (plus whatever time passed in 1999)

Edit: fwiw we know that going from 1999 -> does not age the people nor the things they bring with them (ie the papers were not super super yellow when we get to 2019) so something about going forward/returning is "off" even it isnt forward time travel
 
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I'm also fascinated at how many are convinced/obsessed/utterly sure Skylar went to the future with zero evidence that one it happened, or two it's even possible to go forward in time.
A tattoo needs quite a while to heal. Skylar got three BIG tattoos which take several weeks and multiple visits to the tattoo artist. All in the span of a week she supposedly spent in a cabin deep in the woods.
That is the reason why it is doubted that the Skylar we met just went dark for a while without any conspiracy at all.

Get a girlfriend with no tattoos, convince her to get her arms and a flank tattooed and then try to touch those after a week.
You will end up with severe hearing impairment and at least hurting cheeks. If you are lucky.

If it is possible or not to go forward in time is relatively irrelevant. The main theory is that the Skylar we see hails from a future 1 or 2 years ahead, traveled BACK to the past and the "real Skylar" actually is in a cabin deep in the woods.

Similar to MC who traveled back 20 years instead.
Most people know about time travel? Really? Brad? The Cuck husband? The principal who got his brain splattered? The horny owner lady of the power plant?
Why are a random jerk that wasn't a sparkle in the eyes of his father at the time and a dude who was not inhabitant of the town back when time travel was discovered your examples? The principal firstly is not dead and secondly the same as the "owner" of the plant is employee of Douchebag McAsshat.

I would think that if "Douchebag McAsshat" knows about time travel he is doing a really bad job of keeping under wraps random kid accidentally uses it, masked man can use it whenever, skylar might have used it etc.
If you remember that moron you'd know that
#1 he is old
#2 he is a rich idiot
#3 his right hand man lenny (or larry? actually forgot) is running multiple chores for him i.e. he might not even be the mastermind
#4 the benefits of that are not known and neither are the reasons, it likely is some bond villain BS

Also keep in mind that according to my #3 from the original post I suspected the guy with mask is part of the bad guys. Who do you think would lead the bad guys? Why in lucifers name would he want to hinder one of his men to conduct an action he ordered him to do?

The "random kid" that "accidentally uses it" as we can deduce is not random and it is suspected that the first use was not an accident.
 

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The "random kid" that "accidentally uses it" as we can deduce is not random and it is suspected that the first use was not an accident.
Darci is what triggered the first time travel was she not? (her text or call or whatever happens right before you get succ'd into the blue?) how does that fit into the "conspiracy" especially considering you say she also doesn't know...
 

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Darci is what triggered the first time travel was she not? (her text or call or whatever happens right before you get succ'd into the blue?) how does that fit into the "conspiracy" especially considering you say she also doesn't know...
Sooo ...
You don't find it the least bit suspicious that she was carted off to a wealthy kids school and a year later is pretty much changed?

Or that it is possible that she unknowingly triggered something because she was told to keep calling MC by someone under a false pretense?
Meaning she triggered it but she did not KNOW she triggered it or why.
 

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Or that it is possible that she unknowingly triggered something because she was told to keep calling MC by someone under a false pretense?
I feel like you are assuming way too much here. Who/When/How would tell darcy to spam call/text MC? It was night iirc so Darci would have likely been at her/a friends house so its not like a random person could come and convince her. Why would she listen to someone telling her to spam text/call MC? and most importantly why did we only get a couple of calls and or texts from her? We did not get a dozen we got like 2 or 3 tops.

So instead of someone telling her to spam her best friend someone would have told her to text her best friend at THIS SPECIFIC time... and also act like she is just sending him a normal text?

I get making a theory but you should also learn to see if it holds up to other peoples viewpoints here is an example:

Darci's mom is Darci because we have never seen Darci and her mom in the same room; and MC even mentions that Darci looks like her mom in 1999

Also no I dont find it strange that a girl who went to an girls school while going through puberty would come back and be sexually interested in her big dick friend who she enjoys hanging out with? Like logically while growing up she and MC could be together whenever it wasnt not until they were apart for a year + all the hormones/ girl talk at an all girls school could make her be like "wait do I like like MC?" from there everything is explained in game more or less they dont want to risk their friendship even if they are both down bad for each other lol

Edit: then combine all that with the fact that suddenly MC went from "7 minutes in heaven make out" to "having an actual INCEST HAREM" in like a year and I think Darci changed less :KEK:
 
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I was hoping I didnt come off as confrontational because there are for sure other possibilities, I dont even really think her "going missing" for a day or two needs to be explained. She is a "rebellious" (as long as her mommy doesnt tell her what to do :HideThePain:) teenage girl it wouldn't surprise me if she did just go to the next town over or visited a friend that lives "off the grid" (fits her punkish skating aesthetic) but couple that with her getting a new design and for sure something is up.

Do you not consider the travel from 1999 -> 2019 to be forward time travel? something more like the time machine is just "returning to the point it was used"? (plus whatever time passed in 1999)

Edit: fwiw we know that going from 1999 -> does not age the people nor the things they bring with them (ie the papers were not super super yellow when we get to 2019) so something about going forward/returning is "off" even it isnt forward time travel
Is all fine, I took no offence at all :)

And yes...'99 to '19 is forward...but you know what I meant...there is no evidence to suggest (anywhere...currently) that you could go to '39...was my point.

Yes you are also correct, it is shown within the story, that major events cannot be changed. It is also shown that small inconsequential events (Krystal's name depending on choice with the necklace) can be changed. So there are two minor conflicting issues with how things work presented as facts within the framework of the story. So yes, as you say, something is not quite consistent (not with the story, but the time travel as we currently understand it).

A tattoo needs quite a while to heal. Skylar got three BIG tattoos which take several weeks and multiple visits to the tattoo artist. All in the span of a week she supposedly spent in a cabin deep in the woods.
That is the reason why it is doubted that the Skylar we met just went dark for a while without any conspiracy at all.

Get a girlfriend with no tattoos, convince her to get her arms and a flank tattooed and then try to touch those after a week.
You will end up with severe hearing impairment and at least hurting cheeks. If you are lucky.

If it is possible or not to go forward in time is relatively irrelevant. The main theory is that the Skylar we see hails from a future 1 or 2 years ahead, traveled BACK to the past and the "real Skylar" actually is in a cabin deep in the woods.

Similar to MC who traveled back 20 years instead.
Please don't talk me like I'm an idiot and you're some authority. I have a multitude of tattoos myself and know exactly how long they take to heal (given individual and temperate conditions). I'm not some clueless 14 year old. Also, she got 2 full sleeves...not 3 large tattoos.

Again...there is no evidence...you can travel to the future. Did you even actually read what I wrote? Sure, it's a fun theory but my very fist comment was I don't understand the obession around said theory, because nothing, anywhere within the story...suggests it's possible or has even been done.

And once again, for the blind among us...I have no explanation myself where/how the tattoos came to be...and I am not discounting she went back in time either.
 

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Darci's mom is Darci because we have never seen Darci and her mom in the same room; and MC even mentions that Darci looks like her mom in 1999
You attempt at throwing in a theory example is not funny, only laughable.
Also no I dont find it strange that a girl who went to an girls school while going through puberty would come back and be sexually interested in her big dick friend who she enjoys hanging out with? Like logically while growing up she and MC could be together whenever it wasnt not until they were apart for a year + all the hormones/ girl talk at an all girls school could make her be like "wait do I like like MC?" from there everything is explained in game more or less they dont want to risk their friendship even if they are both down bad for each other lol

Edit: then combine all that with the fact that suddenly MC went from "7 minutes in heaven make out" to "having an actual harem" in like a year and I think Darci changed less :KEK:
Darci is said to have been mischievous and borderline violent in the past.
The MC multiple times exclaimed that he was surprised Darci went only verbal and the Darci he knew would not be able to hold herself from punching shelbys face until a bloody stump is left.

As far as we know Darcis school schedule in that elite girls school did not include therapy or brainwashing.

THAT was meant by "changed".


Please don't talk me like I'm an idiot and you're some authority. I have a multitude of tattoos myself and know exactly how long they take to heal (given individual and temperate conditions). I'm not some clueless 14 year old. Also, she got 2 full sleeves...not 3 large tattoos.

Again...there is no evidence...you can travel to the future. Did you even actually read what I wrote? Sure, it's a fun theory but my very fist comment was I don't understand the obession around said theory, because nothing, anywhere within the story...suggests it's possible or has even been done.

And once again, for the blind among us...I have no explanation myself where/how the tattoos came to be...and I am not discounting she went back in time either.
A slight math question for you.

What is 2 + 1 ?


She has two full sleeves and one tattoo on her flank.


The MC may or may not be able to travel to the future.
But he is able to travel to the past.
So that a Skylar who comes from the future traveled to her past is not out of the question at all.
 
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And yes...'99 to '19 is forward...but you know what I meant...there is no evidence to suggest (anywhere...currently) that you could go to '39...was my point.
Should it matter to the time machine? Forward travel should be forward travel I would think? The only thing (right now) that would make sense is that for some reason 2019 is the hard limit (of "forward"), but like you say we are 1000% missing pieces that will change the entire equation.

a fun thought experiment though: if the time machine can only go forward as far as you sent it back what if someone from 2019 went back to 1999 then waited manually until 2019 to "go back" 20 years in the future? Would they end up in OG 2019 (20 years dont pass for them) would they deage and lose all the "time" they got from waiting until 2019(2)? Would they just go to 2039? Obviously pointless in relation to the game but still fun to think about :unsure:

Darci is said to have been mischievous and borderline violent in the past.
The MC multiple times exclaimed that he was surprised Darci went only verbal and the Darci he knew would not be able to hold herself from punching shelbys face until a bloody stump is left.

As far as we know Darcis school schedule in that elite girls school did not include therapy or brainwashing.

THAT was meant by "changed".
So someone who is going through puberty changed to be less outwardly destructive when they moved to a new environment, with all new people..... Its a good thing life events and age dont cause people to grow and change.... much more likely that the school she went to....uhhh.... what exactly do you think happened? like paint the missing year for us because I think we are all confused about it
 
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So someone who is going through puberty changed to be less outwardly destructive when they moved to a new environment, with all new people..... Its a good thing life events and age dont cause people to grow and change.... much more likely that the school she went to....uhhh.... what exactly do you think happened? like paint the missing year for us because I think we are all confused about it
You can paint the missing year yourself.
Just keep a few things in mind:
#1 Her puberty likely is a while over as she is 18 and her body has not changed much from what MC said. She still has next to no tits.
#2 She was "bad enough" to be sent away as a punishment.
#3 She was not in contact with her friends or her family - the latter she has not even seen in that year.
#4 The wish for violence is still there, she still enjoys violent games and martial arts training.
#5 Changes in a person take time and the change from "violent" to "Ghandi" is kind of extreme.


All in all that change is suspicious at least.
 

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You can paint the missing year yourself.
All in all that change is suspicious at least.

I am sorry but

  1. so she was bad enough to be sent away and you think its weird she is less bad when she comes back?
  2. you admit she had nobody to talk to yet you find it weird that she is less abrasive (and thus more likely to make new friends)
  3. I want to slap the keyboard out of your hands was i brainwashed by the school or whatever you think happened (because surprise surprise you offer no idea on what happened)?
  4. you say she still wants to do violence but somehow is now a saint or ghandi (who was a cunt) (despite showing the entire school that chicks tits)
Please dont clog up the thread with further replies to me i wont be seeing them after all
 

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well that theory was a fun / popcorn to read as it unfolded. It never made any sense from the start. I honestly don't think I even had one theory about darci. I'm not even sure if I buy into her being the shit ninja or not I feel it's someone else still for some reason tho I do understand why that one makes sense.
 
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Yes and No.
Technically it is a grey zone as it is not confirmed yet.
Last I heard Patreon did not go "Minority Report" on its creators.
Yet.
Practically there is the possibility of a "true story patch".
No, there really isn't.

1st: He would have to make an alternative version without incest for Patreon.

2nd: It would be a massive turn-off to a lot of people if the MC turns out to be fucking his own daughters out of nowhere. I know this forum is a bit more extreme for obvious reasons but a turn like that would be gross to a lot of people.

3rd: It doesn't fit the narrative. If you don't install the patch there is nothing indicating that a revelation like that wouldn't mentally break the MC (and the girls).

So no, that theory is an obvious dud for more reasons than one.
 

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2nd: It would be a massive turn-off to a lot of people if the MC turns out to be fucking his own daughters out of nowhere. I know this forum is a bit more extreme for obvious reasons but a turn like that would be gross to a lot of people.
It would be a turn off for (some) people that like incest too, personally the "taboo" aspect of it is what makes me prefer it over vanilla. Having characters be seemingly unrelated for years (real time) with them not acting like they are related at all would do nothing for me other than "wtf then x,y, and z make no sense!". like the moms "route" is hot because she is struggling with her desires vs how the world tells her is "ok" to feel, which is why it works (to a lesser extent) if she is your landlord
 
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I'll chime in with my own opinion
1, Darci's family is obviously very problematic, his grandma, Jackie resembles someone in every way, yes Aunt Jenny . They have the same glasses, they're just as good at gaming, and she even said something crazy about herself earlier, maybe about talking to the MC in the school bathroom? Also, she said her boobs weren't that big when she was younger and that fits perfectly. As for Darci's mom, I even thought she was another Jennifer before I even played EP4, but I dismissed that idea after seeing the finder's notice. As for the end of EP6, Darci showed the MC a picture of her mom being taken and her costume, which seemed a lot like saying that she was also a Traveler? But that doesn't fit the previous setup, so maybe another idea, if Jackie is Jennifer, then maybe there's a small traveling machine in the basement of Darci's house? And Darci's mom might be the key to this research, when the MC first saw her mom at Darci's house, I wonder if anyone else noticed that her mom had a scar on her face, which was in the same location as the Mystic's.

2, Has Skylar traveled back in time as well? Almost all the evidence is pointing to Skylar traveling back in time, not even for the first time, maybe she was a traveler before the MC? The most favorable evidence is twofold, firstly Lizzy, who once said in a conversation with Brad that she used to date a man, then gave the MC a meaningful look and told the MC that she was actually quite old for her actual age. Secondly, Skylar said she went to a friend's place, a cabin in the woods, during the time she was missing. Is it possible to infer from the above two points that the MC met and dated Lizzy from 1999 when she traveled back to 1999 at some point. But MC soon traveled back to 2019. And Skylar, at a time earlier than MC, traveled back to a timeline later than 1999, and also met Lizzy, but this time the travel was unintentional, just like the first time MC traveled, and Skylar went back to 2019 with Lizzy's help and mastered the travel. At the same time bringing Lizzy back to 2019 as well and Lizzy decided to look for MC in 2019 so she didn't go back to the post-1999 timeline, which explains why Lizzy said she and Skylar have known each other for a long time but Skylar didn't mention it because it's only a year or two or even a few days for Skylar while it's been 20 years for Lizzy. Lastly on why Skylar went missing for a week, maybe she's just going back in time to find out why luna is so against her being with the MC.

3, from Tiffany's recollection, it's not the first time that the MC went back to the school to save Tiffany in EP4. In other words, outside of MC's timeline, there's already "another MC" who did this, but the other MC might have lost in the final battle. So he goes back to 2019 and lets the 2019 MC start it all over again. And take control of the situation as a controller. Making sure everything doesn't go off track. If Mystique is the MC who came back in the future, is Aunt Jenny also coming back in the future?Darci's mom's name is also weird, gabby jennifer gilmour?Do we all not know what the MC's mom's full name is? Maybe tiffany gilmour?I would say that the missing person notice doesn't mean anything.Maybe it's not missing but someone back from the future is looking for Jennifer? Maybe she's the key person in the time travel device? One last point that makes me curious, the MC's default name in the game is jack and Ms. gilmour's name is Jackie?Could there be a connection?

4, shit ninja , almost certainly Darci who came back from the future, as evidenced by the small breasts, her purpose of returning to 2019 may be to save the MC who may have been beaten up?Or may be to keep everything following the lines?

But how about this, it's really a great work! Looking forward to EP7 can come soon!
 
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2, Has Skylar traveled back in time as well? Almost all the evidence is pointing to Skylar traveling back in time, not even for the first time, maybe she was a traveler before the MC? The most favorable evidence is twofold, firstly Lizzy, who once said in a conversation with Brad that she used to date a man, then gave the MC a meaningful look and told the MC that she was actually quite old for her actual age.
I feel like this is the most problematic of the ideas you posted because of one simple thing:
Lizzy is enrolled in the school and people do not treat her like the new kid at any point.

Any time travel would have to occur well before the start of the game (and thus the school year) so that Lizzie could get entered into the schools records and legit be attending there (getting grades, doing projects etc) if she was from 1999 as an adult/teen (or any time other than the year she was really born in story) she would then have to get fake documents to enroll into the school (she would also need an adult to enroll her). Well what if Riley or someone hacked into the school and made sure it looked official even though she started this year, but then you run into the issue of nobody ever a single time treating her as the new kid most importantly Brad does not treat her as a new kid. Also when she says she dated a guy and looks at MC is she looking at the camera (we see the scene from MC pov) or is the mc off to the side and she faces off to the side when she says it?

That means if she really is from the past or whatever Brad has to be in on it which means he is helping us with time travel adjacent issues while knowing they are from time traveling but he slowly solves them using modern tech? Even though people he goes to school with are being threatened and blackmailed?

Brad the dude who is openly talking in class about his quest for a mlf harem (to the point that the teachers have to tell him to shush) is also a key piece in keeping the secret from MC? (his brother in harem questing??!?!?!? Not bloody likely!
 
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