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JigglyPal

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well you kinda spoiled me with the pregnant part as that hasnt happened yet . But thanks for the info . It makes sense . Btw is the developer active on Discord ? I mean has he shared any opinions on the problem of having so many girls which makes it hard to build a solid relationship with them?
Not really a spoiler since you probably could have logic'd that one out. Jessica is a little bit older than the MC, and the MC is somewhat newly 18 at the start of the game. You time travel between 1999 and 2019, a twenty year leap.

She'd either have to be pregnant with Jessica or soon to conceive for the timeline to add up, even if you aren't using the patch.
 

danb35

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You time travel between 1999 and 2019
...right now. It's commonly--though by no means universally--believed that this will change, and that we've already seen other characters traveling by other amounts of time. Consider both ninjas, for example. So I don't think this precludes the chance of MC at some point in his future going back to, say, late 1998 or early 1999 and getting Tiffany pregnant. I don't think that's what happened--from everything I've seen, I think Jessica is Eric's kid--but I do expect we'll see more flexibility in his time travels, which would allow for it.

With the current timing we've seen, the only one MC could have fathered would be Skylar.
 

DETROIT123_io

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I am on ep 3 , And wow the story is so mysterious and the concept is so cool . I complaint before that too many girls will make it hard to develop them and If i have a fav character it will suck if they dont have screen time .

Well , I take that statement back because each girl gets good amount of time and each girl is so different and nice to spend time with . The animation is so good , wow . When I am spending a time with one of the girls I get fully invested in her . So well written . So far my fav girls are Alyssa and Jenny ( Aunt) and My least favourite among the main girls is Darci , So far she is not that interesting and kinda annoying at times . And I hate shelby . Why is shelby in my contacts lol .
 

Meiri

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I am on ep 3 , And wow the story is so mysterious and the concept is so cool . I complaint before that too many girls will make it hard to develop them and If i have a fav character it will suck if they dont have screen time .

Well , I take that statement back because each girl gets good amount of time and each girl is so different and nice to spend time with . The animation is so good , wow . When I am spending a time with one of the girls I get fully invested in her . So well written . So far my fav girls are Alyssa and Jenny ( Aunt) and My least favourite among the main girls is Darci , So far she is not that interesting and kinda annoying at times . And I hate shelby . Why is shelby in my contacts lol .
Don't worry you keep playing there is still plenty to see, most girls get featured at some point.
 
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danb35

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Alyssa and Jenny
It's hard for me to pick favorites, but they're both very high on my list.
Is interesting. I tend to be a sucker for a friends-to-lovers story, but she isn't doing it as much. She's grown on me quite a bit though.
I'm with you. But as long as she's a bitch, you can humiliate her, and it looks like it's heading into some kind of redemption for her (which I don't know that I love, but oh well). I mean, she's hot, so it'd be nice to be on friendly terms with her, but she's spent enough time as an enemy that I'm not really looking forward to having her as a friend.
 

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It's hard for me to pick favorites, but they're both very high on my list.

Is interesting. I tend to be a sucker for a friends-to-lovers story, but she isn't doing it as much. She's grown on me quite a bit though.

I'm with you. But as long as she's a bitch, you can humiliate her, and it looks like it's heading into some kind of redemption for her (which I don't know that I love, but oh well). I mean, she's hot, so it'd be nice to be on friendly terms with her, but she's spent enough time as an enemy that I'm not really looking forward to having her as a friend.
I agree with you . Also I would love some more tiffany action , She is very hot along with scarlet .
 

DETROIT123_io

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I noticed that this last update took 11 months . Is that true ? Is'nt it way too long ? I mean I get it why because of so many top tier animation . But with this pace I will be a married guy till the final update drops .

I think it will help if he hired another animator . Desert stalker guy did it and the production time has been reduced by a lot . Pale carnation hired too i think .
 

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I think it will help if he hired another animator .
Contrary to the widespread belief that more people means faster results, this is unfortunately not the case. You can see it in the masses of AVNs. The problem is that two or more people also have to coordinate. This coordination takes time away from the production of content. In addition, there are misunderstandings, so that things have to be redone from time to time. Not to mention the fact that downtime for one person also holds up everyone else involved.

The best thing is to just accept that making games takes time and there are devs who prefer to put out big releases rather than a mini-release once a quarter. If you add it up, the games with regular mini-releases often deliver less content than the games with longer release times. It also helps to bear in mind that the majority of devs create these games alongside their jobs and normal lives. Only very few of them can make a living from the money they earn with their games.
 

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I am on ep 3 , And wow the story is so mysterious and the concept is so cool . I complaint before that too many girls will make it hard to develop them and If i have a fav character it will suck if they dont have screen time .

Well , I take that statement back because each girl gets good amount of time and each girl is so different and nice to spend time with . The animation is so good , wow . When I am spending a time with one of the girls I get fully invested in her . So well written . So far my fav girls are Alyssa and Jenny ( Aunt) and My least favourite among the main girls is Darci , So far she is not that interesting and kinda annoying at times . And I hate shelby . Why is shelby in my contacts lol .
Why does this game make me take away all my complaints right after I say it . Just finished the scene with shelby where she started crying and now She shot up by a lot in my charts . I am sucker for bitch girls with a traumatic backstory . Fuck ...... I want more scenes with her .


The writer of this game can somehow read my mind and cooks some good peak shit .
 

Meiri

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Why does this game make me take away all my complaints right after I say it . Just finished the scene with shelby where she started crying and now She shot up by a lot in my charts . I am sucker for bitch girls with a traumatic backstory . Fuck ...... I want more scenes with her .


The writer of this game can somehow read my mind and cooks some good peak shit .
Most people – and this isn't a critique of you – are too quick to write off a character just because they do something against the protagonist. But if everyone were good to us from the get-go, where would be the fun in the story?
I think some characters shine more when their relationship develops naturally through conflicts, as happens in real life, Shelby and Jessica, for example.
 

danb35

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But if everyone were good to us from the get-go, where would be the fun in the story?
Of course there are lots of ways a story can develop without anyone being disagreeable (there has to be some kind of conflict to make a story, but it need not be interpersonal), and even more ways it can happen without a former enemy becoming a friend. "Redemption" (in whatever form it takes) of an enemy is, as far as it goes, a valid plot choice, but if the audience hate that character enough, it can be risky. Sauron can't just say, "oops, my bad," have everyone forgive him, and the story work. Cass in Artemis is at that point, for me (which the dev recognizes, giving a "F that bitch" option). Rachel in Cosy Cafe at least borders on it. Sarah in Cosy Cafe, Kali in Harem Hotel, and Alex in Eternum aren't--they're all pretty prickly to MC fairly early on, but warm up quickly enough. Shelby, to me, is more "Cass/Rachel" than "Sarah/Kali/Alex."
Shelby and Jessica, for example.
But from MC's perspective, these are very different. Jessica's a long-time family friend (at least, even without the patch), who's recently been kind of bitchy. Shelby has been an unmitigated bitch to MC and everyone around him, every chance she gets, until pretty late in as much as we've seen of the story. So while I can trust that Jestur will make her redemption palatable, I'm not especially looking forward to it. And for that matter, I'm not much of a fan of Jessica.
 

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Of course there are lots of ways a story can develop without anyone being disagreeable (there has to be some kind of conflict to make a story, but it need not be interpersonal), and even more ways it can happen without a former enemy becoming a friend. "Redemption" (in whatever form it takes) of an enemy is, as far as it goes, a valid plot choice, but if the audience hate that character enough, it can be risky. Sauron can't just say, "oops, my bad," have everyone forgive him, and the story work. Cass in Artemis is at that point, for me (which the dev recognizes, giving a "F that bitch" option). Rachel in Cosy Cafe at least borders on it. Sarah in Cosy Cafe, Kali in Harem Hotel, and Alex in Eternum aren't--they're all pretty prickly to MC fairly early on, but warm up quickly enough. Shelby, to me, is more "Cass/Rachel" than "Sarah/Kali/Alex."

But from MC's perspective, these are very different. Jessica's a long-time family friend (at least, even without the patch), who's recently been kind of bitchy. Shelby has been an unmitigated bitch to MC and everyone around him, every chance she gets, until pretty late in as much as we've seen of the story. So while I can trust that Jestur will make her redemption palatable, I'm not especially looking forward to it. And for that matter, I'm not much of a fan of Jessica.
One day Shelby will call us Daddy.
 

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