VN Ren'Py Ripples [v0.8.0 Public] [Jestur]

[dolfe67]

Yeah, not going to happen, maybe it was the idea of Jestur for that to be true, at least for some of the girls, but now even if it was his idea at the beginning it will never happen, he won't risk his game being banned on patreon.

That's a real shame if you ask me. And if it was never planned, it's a missed opportunity. Lots of people expected it.

 

[Meiri]

That's a real shame if you ask me. And if it was never planned, it's a missed opportunity. Lots of people expected it.

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. I don't really mind it because I don't think we will be meeting their fathers anyway so you can fill with your imagination if you want.

Another thing that I personally would have liked but I don't think we will ever get is an ending in 1999 with some of the girls there, sure we are meeting them 20 years later but it's not exactly the same... Specially with some girls like Luna after the way it ended...

 

[Discrepancy]

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. I don't really mind it because I don't think we will be meeting their fathers anyway so you can fill with your imagination if you want.

Another thing that I personally would have liked but I don't think we will ever get is an ending in 1999 with some of the girls there, sure we are meeting them 20 years later but it's not exactly the same... Specially with some girls like Luna after the way it ended...

Yeah, I wonder if we ever will get back to 1999, as you said with Luna it felt like a "end", but I doubt the time traveling stuff will end already, it's the central theme in the game, so not sure what will happen, maybe going to the future?

 

[Discrepancy]

That's a real shame if you ask me. And if it was never planned, it's a missed opportunity. Lots of people expected it.

Yeah, time traveling could lead to some cool shenanigans, not only MC being the father of most/all girls but he being his own Father, I'm kinda indifferent to the incest kink, but this game was perfect for doing cool stuff with that kink.
Edit: Pretty sure incest was planned but Patreon made things complicated

 

[Meiri]

Yeah, I wonder if we ever will get back to 1999, as you said with Luna it felt like a "end", but I doubt the time traveling stuff will end already, it's the central theme in the game, so not sure what will happen, maybe going to the future?

Are we all ready for grandma Scarlet?

 

[Soubhagya_191]

Is Tori, Shelby's mother?

 

[Discrepancy]

Are we all ready for grandma Scarlet?

I bet she would look as good as Jackie (Darci's grandmother) if not better

 

[QwertySmurfy]

Yeah, time traveling could lead to some cool shenanigans, not only MC being the father of most/all girls but he being his own Father, I'm kinda indifferent to the incest kink, but this game was perfect for doing cool stuff with that kink.
Edit: Pretty sure incest was planned but Patreon made things complicated

If it was actually planned and Jestur was thinking about going in that direction, the patch could also be canon (pretty sure its not official just fan made) while also keeping a safer version for Patreon. But maybe that would be a lot of work if there were two versions that needed to be made simultaneously, hence why having someone else do the patch would probably work, but I hear the patch stopped. Again this is just a speculation, I don't know what Jestur was actually planning.

 

[Discrepancy]

If it was actually planned and Jestur was thinking about going in that direction, the patch could also be canon (pretty sure its not official just fan made) while also keeping a safer version for Patreon. But maybe that would be a lot of work if there were two versions that needed to be made simultaneously, hence why having someone else do the patch would probably work, but I hear the patch stopped. Again this is just a speculation, I don't know what Jestur was actually planning.

The incest patch still exists on the multi-mod but as you said it's fan-made.
I thought it was planned at the beginning and then abandoned by Jestur when he figured he could be banned by patreon or as you said that would be a lot of work. Well it's pure speculation on my part though, only Jestur would know

 

[danb35]

But that got me thinking what if MC fucking them in the past got them pregnant?

This question has been discussed quite a bit up-thread. To summarize: (1) we're definitely never going to see that MC's unambiguously the father of any of the 2019 girls he's banging (nor anyone else he's banging), thanks to Patreon et al.; and (2) with what we're shown by the end of current content, it isn't possible for him to be the father of any of them.

On the second point, I was convinced we'd see MC get it on with 1999 Luna, which would work perfectly for him to be Skylar's father (and then you don't have to say that he is, just leave it up to the player's interpretation). And, well, that hasn't happened yet, and it kind of looks like we're done with 1999 (I continue to hope that isn't true for Jenny's sake, but I'm afraid it is).

All of the other girls are either too young (Darci, Alice, Alyssa, Krystal are all 18) or too old (Tiffany's 21) for MC to have conceived them 20 years ago. Allow for other people to time-travel (some of which we've already seen), or for MC to do something other than exactly 20 years back/forward, and that could change, but as far as we've seen now that's the result.

 

[QwertySmurfy]

The incest patch still exists on the multi-mod but as you said it's fan-made.
I thought it was planned at the beginning and then abandoned by Jestur when he figured he could be banned by patreon or as you said that would be a lot of work. Well it's pure speculation on my part though, only Jestur would know

Other games find a different work around for that, they make it so that you can change the type of relationship you have, but I think this also would take too much time, because I'm sure those devs had to make it so that the dialogues made sense if people chose mother/sister relationships.

 

[Discrepancy]

Other games find a different work around for that, they make it so that you can change the type of relationship you have, but I think this also would take too much time, because I'm sure those devs had to make it so that the dialogues made sense if people chose mother/sister relationships.

Yeah, another thing we discussed here before is the fact that this isn't a kinetic novel, you can reject all the girls, so if the girls being all our daughters were a possibility, Jestur would had to create two routes for each girl, like the one where MC is the girls father and another one he isn't, because the girls wouldn't just cease to exist if the MC didn't fuck her mothers in the past, that would just be too much work. Anyways it's all hypothetical

 

[dolfe67]

Yeah, another thing we discussed here before is the fact that this isn't a kinetic novel, you can reject all the girls, so if the girls being all our daughters were a possibility, Jestur would had to create two routes for each girl, like the one where MC is the girls father and another one he isn't, because the girls wouldn't just cease to exist if the MC didn't fuck her mothers in the past, that would just be too much work. Anyways it's all hypothetical

That would just be a few dialogue changes, not complete different routes.

 

[Discrepancy]

That would just be a few dialogue changes, not complete different routes.

Yeah could be, but imo if there was to be any impact in the story should be more than a simple dialogue changes, if not that much work maybe the moder that's doing the current changes for Tiffany and Jessica incest could do for others

 

[Anglex]

Yeah, another thing we discussed here before is the fact that this isn't a kinetic novel, you can reject all the girls, so if the girls being all our daughters were a possibility, Jestur would had to create two routes for each girl, like the one where MC is the girls father and another one he isn't, because the girls wouldn't just cease to exist if the MC didn't fuck her mothers in the past, that would just be too much work. Anyways it's all hypothetical

I could kind of see this happening, time frames aside. On a replaythrough I avoided Alyssa at first for a possibility of an Alice route, and Scarlet ended up grabbing our dick right away. That didn't happen when Alyssa was pursued.

 

[maxthruster]

That would just be a few dialogue changes, not complete different routes.

It depends how in-depth the game is going to go with certain topics and routes. I can speak from experience modding other VNs that eventually the little details pile up and it starts becoming difficult to justify a certain narrative without adding entirely new scenes. It's probably not all that complex in this case, but if you want to call attention to it enough to satisfy the incest crowd you will eventually need more than just a line here or a line there.

 

[dolfe67]

It depends how in-depth the game is going to go with certain topics and routes. I can speak from experience modding other VNs that eventually the little details pile up and it starts becoming difficult to justify a certain narrative without adding entirely new scenes. It's probably not all that complex in this case, but if you want to call attention to it enough to satisfy the incest crowd you will eventually need more than just a line here or a line there.

I meant about the fact that you're the father or not in case incest was not a problem. If you creampied a girl in the past you would be the father but if you chose not to then the father is someone else. That wouldn't require too many changes imo, mainly dialogues.

 

[RekloGamer]

Tiffany is the sexiest Milf I've ever seen, too bad she doesn't have any scenes, just look at that pair of big tits

 

[maxthruster]

I meant about the fact that you're the father or not in case incest was not a problem. If you creampied a girl in the past you would be the father but if you chose not to then the father is someone else. That wouldn't require too many changes imo, mainly dialogues.

I mean, it's certainly doable, but let's think of it this way.

Putting aside the timeline problems someone else pointed out above(most of the girls being either too young or too old to be conceived in 1999, which is generally fixable with just some minor continuity tweaks), there's a couple potential roadblocks here. First and foremost, the reveals. Obviously, if you want it to actually be prominent and noticeable, there has to be dialogue in game that states(or at least strongly hints) that all these girls were born about 9 months after one of your visits to 1999. Where do you fit each of those scenes in? How do you make that topic come up naturally? And, most importantly, how do you do it within scenes that already exist within the game? If it's Jestur writing the scenes in then he can kind of make whatever renders he needs to do it, but if we're assuming this for a patch or mod then it would be pretty difficult to create new renders in the same style for this, so we'd need to find existing spots to fit it in.

Second, we have no idea whether any of the girls' actual fathers are going to show up in the game at some point. They haven't so far, and they likely won't, but any of them doing so could put the plan in jeopardy. Or at the very least, force you to write around it with a "he's just my stepdad, my real dad left before I was born" type deal or whatever. Already kind of awkward to shoehorn in.

Finally, assuming neither of those becomes an issue(reveal scenes added no problem, no dads in the mix)... does it change anything going forward? Obviously some little bits of dialogue here and there might change, whether just the MC's thoughts or if he tells anybody. But presumably people playing specifically for the incest would want it acknowledged in game. How do the girls react when they find out? It seems unreasonable to assume that all of them would go "oh this boy in my class/that I'm friends with is actually my time traveling dad, neat" and then just kinda keep doing whatever they were doing. Even if they're eventually okay with it, they probably experience some amount of shock and need to digest the information. When will appropriate renders appear for each girl? Will that fit into the game's narrative moving forward? We simply can't say, because we don't know what future scenes will look like.

All of this is to say that it is certainly possible to just edit a few lines and numbers, make it lightly hinted so that the person playing knows what's up, and let the rest of the game flow, but if you really want the game to acknowledge the fantasy then there are some pressing logistical concerns that, at the very least, probably make it easier to wait until the game is closer to finished to toy around with.

 

[danb35]

All of this is to say that it is certainly possible to just edit a few lines and numbers

An additional issue is that it needs to be done well. I set myself up for this, I'm sure, by playing through 0.7 without the i-patch, and then installing it on 0.8. But the dialogue, especially in Jenny's scene at the end, just didn't feel right. I'm not sure if I'd say "artificial," "forced," or something else, but it just didn't sound like her.