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One day, one...day, devs will figure out that guns shoot bullets, NOT CARTRIDGES.

But it is NOT THIS DAY.
I mean.... if we wanna be really pedantic and obnoxiously overtechnical about it, the manufactured package that most people call a bullet (which combines a payload/projectile, propellant, and primer inside a casing) is, in fact, a cartridge, regardless of caliber or firearm. The bullet is only the bit that flies out and causes the damage.
 

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I love how we helped make her into the hot MILF we lust after in the future.
So you'd think she'd remember us at least a little, but so far she seems the only one who doesn't. Not even when Tiffany talks to her about how similar we look to her savior from '99. I wonder what's up with that... and if Khloe will be the same.
 
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So you'd think she'd remember us at least a little, but so far she seems the only one who doesn't. Not even when Tiffany talks to her about how similar we look to her savior from '99. I wonder what's up with that... and if Khloe will be the same.
This theory of mine is kind of far fetched (things that just cross my mind, most of the times they are completely ridiculous after thinking better, but time travel is also a ridiculous notion anyway haha) but Valerie could just be acting dismissively and not giving much importance on what Tiffany told her because maybe she is also aware of time travel and don't want Tiffany to get too curious. So far I'm not even sure how many characters in 2019 are really aware of those travels in time, we will see as story progresses.
 

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So you'd think she'd remember us at least a little, but so far she seems the only one who doesn't. Not even when Tiffany talks to her about how similar we look to her savior from '99. I wonder what's up with that... and if Khloe will be the same.
Memories are the least reliable things in the world. Twenty years later, you might not remember faces the way they actually looked, the room or place things happened in. You might think you do, but it's totally different from reality. Witness reports in trials are actually the least reliable testimony, because trauma makes that even worse. People remember things differently than they actually were. Twenty years later, with a guy who has a different name? Yeah, not that surprising at all.

Luna and Jenny might remember better (Luna definitely because of how the party ended), if Jenny's even still alive somewhere, because they both know MC's real name, and that's a detail to hang on to.

The rest might just remember a tall, cute guy named Donnie that was so sweet and (maybe) rocked their world a bit when they were kids. Scarlett definitely is on the way to remembering, if she doesn't already.
 

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This theory of mine is kind of far fetched (things that just cross my mind, most of the times they are completely ridiculous after thinking better, but time travel is also a ridiculous notion anyway haha) but Valerie could just be acting dismissively and not giving much importance on what Tiffany told her because maybe she is also aware of time travel and don't want Tiffany to get too curious. So far I'm not even sure how many characters in 2019 are really aware of those travels in time, we will see as story progresses.
I have been replaying this game and may be getting paranoid, but there are times with certain characters that make me think they either know about time traveling or they may have some knowledge that something is going on, it could be another future version of us pulling the strings which could be related to that guy we saw on the background watching us at our school near the beginning, don't really have a screen, but you can very easily find it during the first day at school.
Other characters I find suspicious, the bald lingerie shop husband (obvious but probably working for the other side) and Mrs Gilmour, this one could be me overreacting but this line here after telling us to come talk to her if we ever need someone and then saying:

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Maybe its just me but I think there is more going on with her.
 

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Memories are the least reliable things in the world. Twenty years later, you might not remember faces the way they actually looked, the room or place things happened in. You might think you do, but it's totally different from reality. Witness reports in trials are actually the least reliable testimony, because trauma makes that even worse. People remember things differently than they actually were. Twenty years later, with a guy who has a different name? Yeah, not that surprising at all.

Luna and Jenny might remember better (Luna definitely because of how the party ended), if Jenny's even still alive somewhere, because they both know MC's real name, and that's a detail to hang on to.

The rest might just remember a tall, cute guy named Donnie that was so sweet and (maybe) rocked their world a bit when they were kids. Scarlett definitely is on the way to remembering, if she doesn't already.
Yep many of my memories of 20 years ago are really fuzzy, details may appear when some event trigger them. But many memories of when I was 20 or 30 yo my mind shape them for my own satisfaction, we do that all the time as a self defense mechanism or even just because it is more convenient haha.
 
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Yep many of my memories of 20 years ago are really fuzzy, details may appear when some event trigger them. But many memories of when I was 20 or 30 yo my mind shape them for my own satisfaction, we do that all the time as a self defense mechanism or even just because it is more convenient haha.
This guy from a neighboring HS in the Bronx tried to mug me once, stuck a gun in my face. I remember it clear as day, I remember my reaction perfectly (I think), I remember the gun's barrel in my face, but I don't remember the guy at all, not his voice or clothes, what he said, what he looked like, not even what race he was. I do remember how shocked he was when I laughed at him and told him to fuck off. I just walked away. I was pretty lucky, but at that point I honestly didn't care, and didn't have anything to give him anyway.
 

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I have been replaying this game and may be getting paranoid, but there are times with certain characters that make me think they either know about time traveling or they may have some knowledge that something is going on, it could be another future version of us pulling the strings which could be related to that guy we saw on the background watching us at our school near the beginning, don't really have a screen, but you can very easily find it during the first day at school.
Other characters I find suspicious, the bald lingerie shop husband (obvious but probably working for the other side) and Mrs Gilmour, this one could be me overreacting but this line here after telling us to come talk to her if we ever need someone and then saying:

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Maybe its just me but I think there is more going on with her.
There is more going on with Ms Gilmour, one of the theories and I side with it but there is still many things to explain in case it is true is that she is Jenny (you can even see some resemblances). There was some well explained theories on how she would be at that age in 2019 and I don't remember them by heart but involved some more 20 years back in time than just to 1999, IIRC was something that she (Jenny) traveled 20 years in the past from 2009 to 1989 when the accident occur, something along those lines. Maybe someone else explain better, I was never good to theorize using words that aren't even my native language haha.
 

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There is more going on with Ms Gilmour, one of the theories and I side with it but there is still many things to explain in case it is true is that she is Jenny (you can even see some resemblances). There was some well explained theories on how she would be at that age in 2019 and I don't remember them by heart but involved some more 20 years back in time than just to 1999, IIRC was something that she (Jenny) traveled 20 years in the past from 2009 to 1989 when the accident occur, something along those lines. Maybe someone else explain better, I was never good to theorize using words that aren't even my native language haha.
Good theory! Jenny and her daughter definitely went somewhere right?
 
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There is more going on with Ms Gilmour, one of the theories and I side with it but there is still many things to explain in case it is true is that she is Jenny (you can even see some resemblances). There was some well explained theories on how she would be at that age in 2019 and I don't remember them by heart but involved some more 20 years back in time than just to 1999, IIRC was something that she (Jenny) traveled 20 years in the past from 2009 to 1989 when the accident occur, something along those lines. Maybe someone else explain better, I was never good to theorize using words that aren't even my native language haha.
Good theory! Jenny and her daughter definitely went somewhere right?
I don't remember where, but I am pretty sure that the Ms. Gilmour being Jenny theory has been blown up recently. I don't buy it, either, never did, but it is a fun theory. If I had believed it I would remember the details, but I didn't so it was peripheral.

I could be wrong.
 

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I don't remember where, but I am pretty sure that the Ms. Gilmour being Jenny theory has been blown up recently. I don't buy it, either, never did, but it is a fun theory. If I had believed it I would remember the details, but I didn't so it was peripheral.

I could be wrong.
Maybe, I don't remember any good debunk of that theory but maybe I missed it and someone did it, I saw a few poor attempts to debunk it but had even more holes than the theory they were debunking haha.
 
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Good theory! Jenny and her daughter definitely went somewhere right?
Yep, if we would believe in that theory then in 1989 Jenny started a "new life" as Jackie and then she got until 2019 in that particular timeline (that coexisted with the "original" Jenny from when she was 11 year old until the power plant accident in 2009). Jackie in 2019 is 61 years old.

If we "draw" the Jenny timeline in that theory it would be something like this:

Born 1978 -----» 1999 meets MC (21 yo) -----» 2009 power plant accident (31 yo) and back to 1989 -----» and 30 years later in 2019 she would be 61 yo.

The main issue of that theory is where her daughter would fit in it, I think Gabby is still one of the most important key to some mysteries and we still got very few about her, still a very mysterious character in the MC (and ours) point of view.
 
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The main issue of that theory is where her daughter would fit in it, I think Gabby is still one of the most important key to some mysteries and we still got very few about her, still a very mysterious character in the MC (and ours) point of view.
Maybe she was infused with some sort of charged particles traveling through time during her formative years and that could be why she was chosen as a candidate for those weird experiments with the crystal necklace in the plant?
 
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Not sure if I'm missing the unlock conditions in a subtle way or not but do we know the conditions for the Scarlett - Valerie - Khloe option? Searching the thread here didn't give me anything but I could have missed it.

Edit: Ixnay, I got it - looks like just picking appropriate interactions/flirts with the specific girls vs choosing others like Tori
 
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Not sure if I'm missing the unlock conditions in a subtle way or not but do we know the conditions for the Scarlett - Vanessa - Khloe option? Searching the thread here didn't give me anything but I could have missed it.
You mean Valerie? If it's for the 3some option, you need to ask the 3some question in the party game before.
 
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