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Yoeski

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Dude, stay in 1999, marry Jenny, and F the rest of the story.

But since we're probably done with 1999, that probably also means no more Jenny. She got a nice send-off, at least.
Yeah, that's the thing, after the recent episode I'm now wondering how Jenny will be handled now, would she have to wait 20 years to see us again or will she have to travel to the future and not age a day? Since nothing seems to be working I'm leaning on the ladder? Just my guess since no one else seems to have anything, I guess time will tell, no pun intended.
 

danb35

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after the recent episode I'm now wondering how Jenny will be handled now,
I expect we'll find out in the next update, of course, but a few possibilities:
  • Nothing really changed; Jenny (and her as-yet-unknown daughter) still died in the accident
    • In which case, if we're actually done with 1999, that really was a farewell to Jenny. I'll miss her, but she got a nice send-off (that was her reason--or excuse, anyway--to sleep with MC, in case they never saw each other again). You couldn't quite file this under "you can't change the past," because MC has (2019 Scarlett still has that picture, after all), but Jestur could channel his inner Doctor and say there are certain fixed points in time that can't be changed, or some such thing. You're always going to get wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey in a time-travel story anyway.
  • Jenny listened to MC, didn't work at the plant, and is alive and well in 2019
    • I'd obviously be glad she made it. But would I feel the same way about 41-year-old 2019 Jenny as about 21-year-old 1999 Jenny? Would she feel the same way about MC? She's had a kid with someone else in that time, after all.
  • Jenny listened to MC, didn't work at the plant, but died for some other reason before 2019
    • Boo! Not as much because Jenny's dead as because it would really feel like a cop-out.
  • Jenny listened to MC but was still affected by the plant accident in some way
    • A theory discussed previously in this thread is that the accident, rather than killing her, sent her back 20 years (so to 1989), where she assumed the identity of Jackie Gilmour, making her Darci's grandmother. This of course introduces all sorts of complications, but goes a long way toward explaining Jackie's apparent attraction to MC. And IIRC her body was never found, so she was always "missing, presumed dead."
The first is pretty risky; killing off a popular character can alienate a lot of your audience, but it could be explained with the rest of the story, and the risk is somewhat mitigated by the fact that she was "dead" when the story began anyway. The third is even more risky IMO, as you're killing her off without even doing anything for the story. The second would be nice, but probably too easy.

I hadn't really considered your idea that Jenny might travel forward. At least one other 1999 girl--April (whom I wouldn't at all mind seeing more of)--has (if not all the way to 2019, at least far enough to see her nieces/Scarlett's daughters), so there's some precedent. Jenny's obviously very bright, so there'd be some reason for whatever shadowy forces are involved here to try to get her help. I kind of doubt we're going to play it that she's bright enough to have invented her own time machine, but I guess it's possible.
 
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I expect we'll find out in the next update, of course, but a few possibilities:
  • Nothing really changed; Jenny (and her as-yet-unknown daughter) still died in the accident
    • In which case, if we're actually done with 1999, that really was a farewell to Jenny. I'll miss her, but she got a nice send-off (that was her reason--or excuse, anyway--to sleep with MC, in case they never saw each other again). You couldn't quite file this under "you can't change the past," because MC has (2019 Scarlett still has that picture, after all), but Jestur could channel his inner Doctor and say there are certain fixed points in time that can't be changed, or some such thing. You're always going to get wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey in a time-travel story anyway.
  • Jenny listened to MC, didn't work at the plant, and is alive and well in 2019
    • I'd obviously be glad she made it. But would I feel the same way about 41-year-old 2019 Jenny as about 21-year-old 1999 Jenny? Would she feel the same way about MC? She's had a kid with someone else in that time, after all.
  • Jenny listened to MC, didn't work at the plant, but died for some other reason before 2019
    • Boo! Not as much because Jenny's dead as because it would really feel like a cop-out.
  • Jenny listened to MC but was still affected by the plant accident in some way
    • A theory discussed previously in this thread is that the accident, rather than killing her, sent her back 20 years (so to 1989), where she assumed the identity of Jackie Gilmour, making her Darci's grandmother. This of course introduces all sorts of complications, but goes a long way toward explaining Jackie's apparent attraction to MC. And IIRC her body was never found, so she was always "missing, presumed dead."
The first is pretty risky; killing off a popular character can alienate a lot of your audience, but it could be explained with the rest of the story, and the risk is somewhat mitigated by the fact that she was "dead" when the story began anyway. The third is even more risky IMO, as you're killing her off without even doing anything for the story. The second would be nice, but probably too easy.

I hadn't really considered your idea that Jenny might travel forward. At least one other 1999 girl--April (whom I wouldn't at all mind seeing more of)--has (if not all the way to 2019, at least far enough to see her nieces/Scarlett's daughters), so there's some precedent. Jenny's obviously very bright, so there'd be some reason for whatever shadowy forces are involved here to try to get her help. I kind of doubt we're going to play it that she's bright enough to have invented her own time machine, but I guess it's possible.
I'd say the most likely scenario is that Jenny is still believed to have died in the accident, but remains alive under an assumed identity – just like she had been from the get-go.
 

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I expect we'll find out in the next update, of course, but a few possibilities:
  • Nothing really changed; Jenny (and her as-yet-unknown daughter) still died in the accident
Small correction: Her daughter didnt die in the accident but disappeared: "A week after the accident Jenny's daughter went missing and was never found" and I believe Tiffany later mentions, that the police assumed, that she ran away.
 
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Small correction: Her daughter didnt die in the accident but disappeared: "A week after the accident Jenny's daughter went missing and was never found" and I believe Tiffany later mentions, that the police assumed, that she ran away.
My theory is that Jenny ran away with her daughter after the accident because she was warned by the MC. She ran away to not alter events and will reemerge some time after the MC returns to the present.
 

danb35

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How would she know when to reappear?
We don't know what all MC told her when he came clean; he may very well have told her what specific date it was when he left. But we know he told her at least the broad strokes--he was from her future, there was an accident at the power plant, and that the accident (was believed to have) resulted in her death. It seems very likely he would have said "20 years in the future" or something very similar. I don't know a particular reason that he would have been more specific than that--she might have asked, he might have just said it, he might have mentioned (or she have asked about) other events that she could piece together to get a pretty close idea.
Jenny ran away with her daughter after the accident because she was warned by the MC.
But why? She was warned about the accident, and that she'd die in the accident. If she survived the accident, and was able to take her daughter a week later and go into hiding, why would she then do that? Afraid of Cindy and her goons? I mean, she knows about them now (i.e., in 1999), and surely would have learned more about them by 2009 or so, when the accident took place. I don't know, though.
 
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Okay, genuinely curious. I last played this in a very early iteration, and I got the strong impression at the time that the plot would revolve around you being the secret father of several of the 2019 girls, through time travel shenanigans. Is this (still or ever) anyone else's impression of the plot?
 

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Okay, genuinely curious. I last played this in a very early iteration, and I got the strong impression at the time that the plot would revolve around you being the secret father of several of the 2019 girls, through time travel shenanigans. Is this (still or ever) anyone else's impression of the plot?
It literally can't be as the game is on Patreon, they will all have different fathers.
 

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Okay, genuinely curious. I last played this in a very early iteration, and I got the strong impression at the time that the plot would revolve around you being the secret father of several of the 2019 girls, through time travel shenanigans. Is this (still or ever) anyone else's impression of the plot?
I think almost everyone thought that MC could be the father of all the 2019 girls and even his own father, but now no, it really doesn't make sense timewise for he to be the father of all the girls, and even if it was Jestur intention at the beginning (who knows?) now with patreon hunt for incest games it will never happen.
 
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I think almost everyone thought that MC could be the father of all the 2019 girls and even his own father, but now no, it really doesn't make sense timewise for he to be the father of all the girls, and even if it was Jestur intention at the beginning (who knows?) now with patreon hunt for incest games it will never happen.
I hate patreon so much lol. The MC being the father of the 2019 girls sounds so hot
 

danb35

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secret father of several of the 2019 girls, through time travel shenanigans.
Certainly that started sounding like a possibility once MC started meeting the mothers of the 2019 LIs, but there's nobody for whom the facts as currently known fit. As far as we've yet seen, MC has only traveled between 1999 and 2019, and all of the 2019 girls are either too young or too old to have been fathered in 1999--except for Skylar. And while things sure looked like they were headed that way before Cindy did her thing, MC hasn't had sex with Skylar's mother in 1999.

Now, of course, lots of things could happen to change this. MC isn't the only one who's time-traveled (see April, Darci, Riley, and Skylar, at least). In at least some of those cases, it hasn't been a simple 20-year jump one way or the other--so he could, perhaps, go back to 2000 rather than 1999. He could just wait until 2020, and then go back to 2000. He could yet come back to 1999 and get together with Luna (though that strikes me as unlikely, on both counts). Khloe or Scarlett could jump forward by a year before giving birth to their respective daughters (because MC certainly had the opportunity to get them pregnant).

I don't think I ever understood that the plot would revolve around this question/issue, but it did seem like we were headed for a situation where it would be the case. But Patreon rules being what they are, at most, it'd be implicit--suppose, for example, that Cindy hadn't cock-blocked MC with Luna. In that case (and presuming he finished inside), it's possible that MC is Skylar's father. If no more is said about it (or perhaps the question is raised but not answered), the player is left to believe whatever he (or she) wants. But for whatever reason, Jestur decided to rule out that possibility--and if he did that here, I don't think we're going to see another case where "MC is her father" would be even a possibility.
 

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I hate patreon so much lol. The MC being the father of the 2019 girls sounds so hot
To be fair, it doesn't look like that was the way the story was planned. Even in earlier states of the story it wouldn't have made a lot of sense and the story wasn't changed. Sure, the incest fetish crowd liked to see it the other way, but by all means, it wouldn't have made sense.
 
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