Ren'Py Rivers of Astrum [v0.2.1.5] [Paper Tiger]

[Joe Steel]

Random question, figured i'd try to get some opinions. The violence filter ... graphic instances of death aside, does anyone actually use it, or is anyone bothered by a bit of blood here and there? I'm thinking about reworking that a bit, to basically just included dismemberment, disembowelment, beheadings, things like that, graphic/vicious death, as opposed to just a little blood from being punched in the nose or something.

I think that the filter should filter out the extreme violence (it's a fantasy, so I can do without seeing bowel movements or disembowelment) but I'm okay with the basic game including non-graphic violent deaths.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Rivers of Astrum [v0.2.1.5] [Paper Tiger]

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[Paper Tiger 83]

I think that the filter should filter out the extreme violence (it's a fantasy, so I can do without seeing bowel movements or disembowelment) but I'm okay with the basic game including non-graphic violent deaths.

Just to clarify ... not once did i ever plan to show bowel movements

 

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[Ogre]

Random question, figured i'd try to get some opinions. The violence filter ... graphic instances of death aside, does anyone actually use it, or is anyone bothered by a bit of blood here and there? I'm thinking about reworking that a bit, to basically just included dismemberment, disembowelment, beheadings, things like that, graphic/vicious death, as opposed to just a little blood from being punched in the nose or something.

Some blood makes it feel more real, which is good. I doubt too many would object to that.

Too much and it gets difficult for me to enjoy the game, even when the good guys are winning.

Oh and as to your poll, I suggest a nice healthy romantic lesbian relationship that is based on D/S, bondage, punishments, rewards, and lots of playful banter between the confident bemused inventive dom and the happy, bratty, brave, little sub. Is that asking too much?

 

[WerewolfSinX]

Well, that's precisely why the content filters exist in Rivers of Astrum . So, ive got plans for a pretty wide spread of kinks, and yes, there are straight scenes planned for the girls, but this is where it gets into "canon" vs. "non-canon". I structure the game - in a sense - like a "choose your own adventure" book, at least when it comes to the characters and their actions, they have their canon versions that i originally wrote for the story, but they are whoever YOU want them to be, and you decide what they do and don't do. But if Kim does something that is grossly out of character for a lesbian woman, like agree to straight sex ... i mean ... Cara's gonna have a LOT of shit to say about that, obviously.

It's a balance. On the one hand, i have the canon story, as i said. In my head, Kim and Cara are a couple, and remain together, and strongly connected, through the entirety of the story. But writing it linearly like that - while it would be easier, and faster - it would sacrifice a lot of player choice, and im also a big proponent of player choice driving a story.

But as i said, that's what the content filters are for, so you can switch on/off anything you don't want to see

Still tho, canon Kim is best Kim, imo XD

So quick question about the "canon" do we have to stay with this GF? haven't played this yet but would like to know before I delve into the game. Don't get me wrong, when I play female protagonist games I always go lesbian on my personal "canon" but would like to know how many/if female characters she can fall in love with.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

So quick question about the "canon" do we have to stay with this GF? haven't played this yet but would like to know before I delve into the game. Don't get me wrong, when I play female protagonist games I always go lesbian on my personal "canon" but would like to know how many/if female characters she can fall in love with.

Nope, you don't. Now, they start off very committed, and this update was the first one that really started providing options to start dissolving that relationship, and/or pursuing another girl. As you mentioned, canonically, they are in a committed relationship, but I'm a strong proponent of player/choice-driven narratives. So, nope. She doesn't have to stay in the relationship if you don't want!

And the plan is to allow for threesome action, or even foursomes, if you play your cards right.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

Some blood makes it feel more real, which is good. I doubt too many would object to that.

Too much and it gets difficult for me to enjoy the game, even when the good guys are winning.

Oh and as to your poll, I suggest a nice healthy romantic lesbian relationship that is based on D/S, bondage, punishments, rewards, and lots of playful banter between the confident bemused inventive dom and the happy, bratty, brave, little sub. Is that asking too much?

Not too much at all. Now, as far as having the entire mood of their relationship be dom/sub? That's not likely to happen ... but for sex scenes? Yeah, the demo had a dom/sub scene during the storeroom, but i removed that from the live version, because i intend tie it to the girls' decisions / morality levels. Nice (willing) Dom/Sub will most certainly be making a return, and sooner than you might think! Though, I always want to re-iterate the content filters (located on the Preferences Page), because there are also some not-so-consensual domination scenes planned, and if you don't like that, it'll need to be toggled off to avoid seeing it

 

[WerewolfSinX]

Nope, you don't. Now, they start off very committed, and this update was the first one that really started providing options to start dissolving that relationship, and/or pursuing another girl. As you mentioned, canonically, they are in a committed relationship, but I'm a strong proponent of player/choice-driven narratives. So, nope. She doesn't have to stay in the relationship if you don't want!

And the plan is to allow for threesome action, or even foursomes, if you play your cards right.

Thanks for the quick reply. I've been looking for a good female protag story. Found some but most they are just slut games. If I like this game I will support as much as I can. Need more female MC games with both lesbian and hetero romances in the same game. One last question before I download, if you had to guess how long do you think it would take to reach the end of the current update for someone who reads pretty fast lol.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

Thanks for the quick reply. I've been looking for a good female protag story. Found some but most they are just slut games. If I like this game I will support as much as I can. Need more female MC games with both lesbian and hetero romances in the same game. One last question before I download, if you had to guess how long do you think it would take to reach the end of the current update for someone who reads pretty fast lol.

I use a standard method of determining the time of an update, i set my auto timer to move forward just after the voice lines play, and i watch all transitions through (i design this thing pretty cinematically, intending it to almost play like a movie, in many spots) ... doing it THAT way? I calculated about 1.5 hours of added content with this update.

If you're speed reading though, or have voices turned off? That'd be hard to judge ... maybe 45 minutes? Possibly less. It all depends on your read speed.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

Also, to all, incase i've never said it here (I often forget what's been mentioned where ) ... So, up till now, the nsfw scenes have all been pretty mild ... the NEXT update (not this one), is going to swing the doors wide open, not only in the *amount* of sex scenes, but in their variety as well. Shit's about to start gettin' *real* spicy.

Currently rendering a "fight till they fuck" hardcore lesbian domination scene that's turning out sexy. as. fuck. If i do say so myself XD

 

[Hardor]

I think if Kim decide between a treasure or her love, ever Cara on her first spot. Perhaps if Kim look for other girls Cara like it or the share Kim or give Kim her permission for sex ( fun, not love or with Sandra, how knows ) or both love a other girl ( Sandra) and never Kim or Cara have doubts about hers love for each other, jealousy can be negative action effectuate. Imao, Kim and Cara trust each other and have a deep love.

Problem isn't if Cara is straight threatened, but if Kim thinks that she isn't directly, just herself. That is usually the situation where morally gray choices are taken, since most of people don't think how much it hurts their lover if they lose them, since in peoples minds they themselves are always immortal to whom never anything fatally bad happens.

That gives much leverage on the script and keeps it believable.

 

[Schnarfi]

How do you get the morning bath scene with Sandra and Kim from the pictures? I have tried several approaches but theres always Cara and Sandra showing up.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

How do you get the morning bath scene with Sandra and Kim from the pictures? I have tried several approaches but theres always Cara and Sandra showing up.

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[LonerPrime]

Saw the game pop up on my latest feed. Didn't really delve into details, but awesome to see it's still chugging along well.
Will wait out a few updates before picking it up again, but good job and I wish you luck Paper Tiger 83

 

[Schnarfi]

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[WShatn]

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[M I N T]

This one seems interesting! Let's give it a-go-go-gooo!

 

[Kagarus]

Also, to all, incase i've never said it here (I often forget what's been mentioned where ) ... So, up till now, the nsfw scenes have all been pretty mild ... the NEXT update (not this one), is going to swing the doors wide open, not only in the *amount* of sex scenes, but in their variety as well. Shit's about to start gettin' *real* spicy.

Currently rendering a "fight till they fuck" hardcore lesbian domination scene that's turning out sexy. as. fuck. If i do say so myself XD

Heh, considering there's a bad end included in those "pretty mild" scenes, I guess it's going become a bit more dangerous for our heroines?

Random question, figured i'd try to get some opinions. The violence filter ... graphic instances of death aside, does anyone actually use it, or is anyone bothered by a bit of blood here and there? I'm thinking about reworking that a bit, to basically just included dismemberment, disembowelment, beheadings, things like that, graphic/vicious death, as opposed to just a little blood from being punched in the nose or something.

Personally, I don't use it - I'd probably a be bit more likely to use it if it was just extreme violence, as really excessive, gratuitous... let's call it torture porn... is a bit eeeh for me, while removing all blood is excessive and feels weird. Probably still wouldn't though, as at least so far there's nothing really that extreme.


Also, nice update

(And huh, only 20% for tentacles, kinda makes me wonder - I'd assume that people interested in it are pretty much a strict subset of people that are interested in bad ends/danger to our MC to begin with (you can have romance, especially when both women are magic users, but that's not exactly what comes to mind first ): Is that set comparatively small, or are tentacles relatively unpopular within that set. )

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

Heh, considering there's a bad end included in those "pretty mild" scenes, I guess it's going become a bit more dangerous for our heroines?

That would be a safe assumption. Now, I hope it's obvious by this point how seriously I take the story. That said, this is a sexual VN, and that part is going to receive a heavy amount of focus in the next several updates, but i have no intention of turning kim into the town whore, or anything of that nature. But ... well, you'll see. Can't really spill the plans on that without giving away too much in spoilers

Personally, I don't use it - I'd probably a be bit more likely to use it if it was just extreme violence, as really excessive, gratuitous... let's call it torture porn... is a bit eeeh for me, while removing all blood is excessive and feels weird. Probably still wouldn't though, as at least so far there's nothing really that extreme.


Also, nice update

Thanks ! And yeah, that seems to be where most peoples' minds are. I've already started rendering/coding accordingly. Fight scenes like the one im doing now will no longer be filtered for basic blood. If it gets too violent, then yes, but getting kicked in the teeth, or punched in the nose, things like that. That blood will remain unfiltered. If I get too many complaints about that I'll consider changing it, but so far the violence has never been a point of complaint with the players

(And huh, only 20% for tentacles, kinda makes me wonder - I'd assume that people interested in it are pretty much a strict subset of people that are interested in bad ends/danger to our MC to begin with (you can have romance, especially when both women are magic users, but that's not exactly what comes to mind first ): Is that set comparatively small, or are tentacles relatively unpopular within that set. )

Yeah, ngl. That makes me sad, but I am one of those people who's into bad ends/danger/noncon, which is precisely why i put the filters in. So I could explore my "darker" kinks, while not *forcing* them upon anyone ... but as I mentioned to Goku, *all* of that content is coming, the poll was just to see where the player preferences lie, so i know what to give more weight/priority to