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alankky

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Put the Settings like this, and it will be fine:

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So, what is happening here?

1: There is plenty of stuff that has zero impact on how the game looks, like "Volumetric Fog" etc, since you are in closed rooms anyway - so you are rendering fog outside of the room.. disable it. (Yes, I am aware that illusion is stupid...)

2: Global Illumination does not need to be at highest settings, I did not see any visible difference, but it really hits performance hard, even slapping a 3090 equivalent card as if it was a potato.

3: SSR, disable it, there is not much in the game that would be reflective anyway.

4: the mirror, disable it, waste of performance (planar reflection? I guess. Might have an effect on the eyes, not sure.)

5. Shadow resolution at medium is just fine, its 99% indoor gameplay anyway, where there are not much shadows, and even outside the shadows are still fine.

6. DOF, disable, waste of performance

7. Microsado? no idea what that is, disabling it did not cause a difference?

8. Chromatic aberration... does not have performance impact, use at your own discretion.

9. TAA in this game sucks, but still is the best we get, small performance cost.

10: contact shadows, only make sense outside - medium is fine.


With these settings, as shown in the image, the game should run just fine on any half decent GPU, at 60 fps.

Sorry, Microsado is not correct, in japanese, it is referred as to "マイクロシャドウ", actually means micro shadows.


 

nukexdevil

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why tf does this game even have this, given that it has zero materials that would benefit from this. (I would understand in AIS, but here?.)

And, yeah, its not correct, I just took whatever is written there - at first I thought it was "film grain" or so - machine translation does machine translation things. :p

Edited the post though - feel free to refer to the post whenever someone has performance issues.
Just trying to help, fighting the stupid that illusion throws at us.

Tbh, to me its just not understandable how illusion tends to wreck its own games with such simple things.

Literally no one would have noticed if my settings were the maximum settings of the game, but there would not have been complaints about performance.
 
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alankky

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The problem is, that this game has more settings than AIS/HS2, making it look like "more has to be disabled".

Illusion is stupid, nothing new here.

They should have never put in some of the options at their highest settings, just because Unity technically allows them to do so. That "Global Illumination" (or whatever that is, I am not sure) does not need the two higher settings, the game still looks fine without it, but the performance impact of that setting... this setting alone... is nuts.


Illusion, improvements?
doubt.

But here is the good thing: the characters etc. still look very good with the settings as I posted them, guess that is all we need. ;)
I agree. I just wonder how their QA team can allow such happenings. Is it easy to spot indeed. :cool:
 

nukexdevil

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I agree. I just wonder how their QA team can allow such happenings. Is it easy to spot indeed. :cool:
they must be completely clueless, all of them.

If the entire studio doesnt notice such simple things, than they are beyond the point where they will understand.

I hate to be this negative, I like the new graphics and so on, but Illusion is completely incompetent on a technical level, on a level of basic understanding of when to enable/disable things, and where to put reasonable limits.

You know how much performance they wasted with shadow draw distance in AIS?... yeah, press F5 and try for yourself with graphics mod enabled - its bonkers. A few tweaks here, there, and suddenly the game runs twice as fast, while also looking better. :poop:

See the comparison:

Left: Highest settings the game allows, performs like trash.
Right: the settings from above, performs "just fine".
Screenshot 2022-10-03 11-25-49.jpg

The color-difference comes from the "vignette" (color grading, LUT... whatever you wanna call it.), that does not cost performance - and the only really noticable difference is the shadows, but they are still "good enough".

I mean... no one would have complained if the games highest settings would be the right image... if it ran fine.
 
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why tf does this game even have this, given that it has zero materials that would benefit from this. (I would understand in AIS, but here?.)

And, yeah, its not correct, I just took whatever is written there - at first I thought it was "film grain" or so - machine translation does machine translation things. :p

Edited the post though - feel free to refer to the post whenever someone has performance issues.
Just trying to help, fighting the stupid that illusion throws at us.

Tbh, to me its just not understandable how illusion tends to wreck its own games with such simple things.

Literally no one would have noticed if my settings were the maximum settings of the game, but there would not have been complaints about performance.
On a hunch I checked if the fishnets benefited from micro shadows and... nope.

As I mentioned before Illusion (and every other eroge studio) have no veteran developers due to cultural pressures driving them to mainstream companies. It's pretty much only the most senior staff of Illusion have anything more than a year or two of experience.

Edit: I hasten to add "a year or two of experience" after making Room Girl.
 

alankky

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they must be completely clueless, all of them.

If the entire studio doesnt notice such simple things, than they are beyond the point where they will understand.

I hate to be this negative, I like the new graphics and so on, but Illusion is completely incompetent on a technical level, on a level of basic understanding of when to enable/disable things, and where to put reasonable limits.

You know how much performance they wasted with shadow draw distance in AIS?... yeah, press F5 and try for yourself with graphics mod enabled - its bonkers. A few tweaks here, there, and suddenly the game runs twice as fast, while also looking better. :poop:
yep, it's terrific. But for AI girl it's still playable at least with graphic plugin applied. ;)

I am just looking forward to new plugin developed for this new game anyway, especially uncensored pack. The H scene looks ridiculous right now as mosaic exists.
 

nukexdevil

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I am just looking forward to new plugin developed for this new game anyway, especially uncensored pack. The H scene looks ridiculous right now as mosaic exists.
Uncesor already exists (dick needs work though), but I will leave the distribution to STN - I dont want to interfere with him in a negative way.
 

alankky

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Uncesor already exists (dick needs work though), but I will leave the distribution to STN - I dont want to interfere with him in a negative way.
Sorry since my RG is vanilla version in japanese. I cannot see any uncensored plugin available in



Is it not made by original team?
 

nukexdevil

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Sorry since my RG is vanilla version in japanese. I cannot see any uncensored plugin available in



Is it not made by original team?
It is a hardmod, not a plugin - there will not be plugins for the foreseeable future, unless something changed that I am not aware of.

Practically, this uncensor requires you to overwrite and add some files to the game. (For most people, it is best to wait until STN adds it to the repack, to prevent even more confusion. Looking at how many people already had trouble with 2 archives... I can see this causing just as much confusion.)

See this post, for images of the uncensor: https://f95zone.to/threads/room-girl-r1-illusion.124692/post-9099540
 
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alankky

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It is a hardmod, not a plugin - there will not be plugins for the foreseeable future, unless something changed that I am not aware of.

Practically, this uncensor requires you to overwrite and add some files to the game. (For most people, it is best to wait until STN adds it to the repack, to prevent even more confusion. Looking at how many people already had trouble with 2 archives... I can see this causing just as much confusion.)

See this post, for images of the uncensor: https://f95zone.to/threads/room-girl-r1-illusion.124692/post-9099540
It's a bit complicated for that, anyway thanks. Stay tuned for modders to save us :cool: ;)
 

tupdomain

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played this game for an hour, they really made this game feel stiff on interaction, i really wished that they made the game like Artificial Academy 2 that they made in early 2010 where npc can interact in the background and aven interupt you.
note: i know that AA2 feels outdated, their Character creation sucks, and the control is stiff.
 

fan22606

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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but AI, HS2 cards are compatible with this game. Of course need to wait for all the mods to load character correctly.
 
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This great game so far, but it will be perfect if this have uncensored build in without mod and we can custom vagina. Damm! they missing the best part DAMM IT!
 

FullDeckard

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So, what is the conclusion:
People need to stop buying the garbage illusion makes, so that they stop making garbage because they dont get away with it anymore.

If people buy the Free H of AIS for 70$... they are beyond stupid, signaling illusion that they can do such stupid things.
People bought KKS, yet it is nothing more than a DLC for KK.

RoomGirl is the result of "illusion getting away with it" for 15 years... and only the players to blame. (but it could be worse... see the "Custom Maid" stuff.)
The problem doesn't go away if you stop buying the games, it potentially makes it worse. And no one on here is BUYING the games anyway.

The issue really is that this sort of game is so niche that there's not a wide variety of new devs coming into the market for these games, they'll go work on games that have more industry clout, less of a stigma attached to them, or work on their own games. This creates a perfect storm of lack of talent in the field, and a lack of rewards for those brave enough to put it on their CVs that they worked on a bunch of games where the focus was fucking.

People need to buy and play these games to legitimise and normalise them in society so that it's easy to attract talent to work on them. Only then will they really improve.

Maybe the issue is that we all need to stop expecting to get these games for free, and actually put money into the industry, instead of stealing the games and wondering why they aren't improving.
 

nukexdevil

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And no one on here is BUYING the games anyway.
here... but their home market, AND steam certainly does. ( )

Clearly, illusion reacts to "bad sales", see "emotion creators" - but "they" still buy the garbage and send signals to illusion.

Idk, do the JP players not complain the same way we do?
Do they not care?

They should have "the connection" to illusion that we do not have.
 
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The people who buy these games are the problem, not illusion.

If people would actually stop buying the bland garbage and buy the good games, illusion would be forced to stop making bland garbage.

AA -> AA2: Not much difference, but people bought it, so illusion got away with it.

PlayClub, Honey Select, PlayHome: This set of 3 games is almost the same (just some settings changes etc.), and people bought it, and illusion got away with it.

Sexy Beach Premium Resort: That one... I still remember, but given that there is no sequel or "similar game", it flopped, finally.

Koikatsu -> Koikatsu Sunshine: KKS is actually a downgrade in some areas, at best the whole game is a "sidegrade"... but people bought it, and illusion got away with its nonsense. (Guess what KK3 will be... another sidegrade, gg, you fucked yourself.)

Emotion Creators: Flopped again, because it was a useless pile of garbage with even less gameplay than the "Scene Selectors".

AI-Shoujo: Was fine, but illusion did not add Free H, so that they can sell it as "Honey Select 2" later... and people went and ate the shit that illusion served them. (At least AIS aka AG4 had some gameplay and new graphics and so on.)

Honey Select 2: The Free-H from AIS, but you now have to pay for it, zero gameplay, just another bland scene selector... and people bought it.)

Room Girl: Another Scene-Selector, with improved graphics, better performance but problematic modding (for now). I dont know how the game is doing, but at least they did not sell us the Free H as a seperate game again.


So, what is the conclusion:
People need to stop buying the garbage illusion makes, so that they stop making garbage because they dont get away with it anymore.

If people buy the Free H of AIS for 70$... they are beyond stupid, signaling illusion that they can do such stupid things.
People bought KKS, yet it is nothing more than a DLC for KK.

RoomGirl is the result of "illusion getting away with it" for 15 years... and only the players to blame. (but it could be worse... see the "Custom Maid" stuff.)


So, what will the next games be?

- Koikatsu 3, another bland sidegrade of Koikatsu.
- AI-Shoujo 2, but with the graphics from RoomGirl. (Alternative: Sexy Beach 6 with this graphics.)
- Maybe some garbage VR game in between, who knows.
Ahaha I will pay for this game better then buy saint row reboot 2022. if you don't want to support them, then plz don't download this game, hehe I guess you will download torrent for free anyway hehehe, don't lie because I know you dumumu ass will.. You know how hard to made a game? RIP.
 
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Hello, is it safe to download this .exe patch from a few pages below ?



Do you guys know if it's legit please ?


EDIT: It's legit
 
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People need to buy and play these games to legitimise and normalise them in society so that it's easy to attract talent to work on them. Only then will they really improve.
Japan's porn industry is a US$4.4 billion a year industry, the consumption is plenty normalized, but it's still culturally stigmatized to actually be involved in it. The change you're expecting to see would've already happened if we're just talking about the Power of Capitalism(tm) from selling more copies, but it hasn't.

Frankly speaking, the only way Illusion can improve is if they start outsourcing or hiring expats who aren't influenced by Japan's conservative culture.
 
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if you don't want to support them, then plz don't download this game, hehe I guess you will download torrent for free anyway hehehe, don't lie because I know you dumumu ass will.. You know how hard to made a game? RIP.
People been buying these for 15 years, and see where we went... Illusion will never change, if there is no financial incentive to do so.
 
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