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Yeahhhh I doubt that.

Where did you get the information from? patreon?
So far it felt like the damage control of arenus took most of their time and they are in general very silent about the gold patch.

Arenus was such a shame man so my hopes lies solely on the gold patch for roundscape for now.
The developer anounce in this chat about the gold patch release day, check the link if you want https://f95zone.to/threads/roundscape-adorevia-v5-8b-arvus-games.466/post-9285502
 

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I wonder if in the golden patch they'll give fullfilling endings to all the girls because in the current version if I impregnated them or not doesn't matter in the end. And the ending is just a single note.
 

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I wonder if in addition to adding new stuff and making some tweaks they're going to replace completely o partially the original art with new one made by the current "Roundscape world" artist or just part of it like in the last updates when they replaced those that looked "less good".
 

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I wonder if in addition to adding new stuff and making some tweaks they're going to replace completely o partially the original art with new one made by the current "Roundscape world" artist or just part of it like in the last updates when they replaced those that looked "less good".
IIRC, they ought to keep old art. There was a campaign of sorts awhile ago to replace those pictures their patrons deemed low-quality. But after that happened, I don't recall them doing anything with the art.
 

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IIRC, they ought to keep old art. There was a campaign of sorts awhile ago to replace those pictures their patrons deemed low-quality. But after that happened, I don't recall them doing anything with the art.
That'd be a huge undertaking with how much of the art in this game is "low quality." At least by my standards. About halfway through the game it seems like they started to only have the one artist, & they're... Not Great, imo. Shame the art in this game is so inconsistent. Some of it is phenomenal, & some is just.... not good. Guess they didn't wanna pay more than 1 artist anymore. Which is weird since i've seen some fantastic fanart of this game, so you'd think it wouldnt be That hard to find interested parties.
 

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That'd be a huge undertaking with how much of the art in this game is "low quality." At least by my standards. About halfway through the game it seems like they started to only have the one artist, & they're... Not Great, imo. Shame the art in this game is so inconsistent. Some of it is phenomenal, & some is just.... not good. Guess they didn't wanna pay more than 1 artist anymore. Which is weird since i've seen some fantastic fanart of this game, so you'd think it wouldnt be That hard to find interested parties.
Well, they clearly listened to people pleas for uniform artstyle by hiring the only artist. The result, I agree with you, wasn't great - their current art is mediocre and, IMO, weaker than many the game already had. As you see, sometimes having a dozen or more artist while making artstyle inconsistent - I do not see it as a major issue, BTW! - also means that there is an art for everyone. And if you miss with the singular artstyle, then someone might be put off by the entire game.

The way around? Make sure the single artstyle you use is actually worth it. Claire's Quest and Overgrown (both games not unlike Roundscape, being RPG-maker products) managed to do it, for example. And I can't say their art is stellar - but its good. While current Roundscape art while not terrible is just... bland? Mediocre? It feels like those anime-sque porn drawn in 2000s, one where you could hardly tell one artist from the other. It lacks some... spark, I guess? Something that would make it a stand-out.

But what really draws the line for me is not how that person draws, but what. Very exaggerated and very poor range of expressions - most look like those stereotypical cheap porn movies where everyone is REALLY happy to see each other in most overacted way possible. "The Lusty Plumber 2: Backpipe clogging" limited edition only for 0.99 USD! And the artist draws each character the same way: muscular orcish war-girl, slim elven woman, farm milf - every girl would be a bimbo.

What was good in hiring many artists for many scenes is that they potentially won't have to work outside of their field of expertise or aesthetic taste. Which in turn could make their style fit the scene better. Take for example Farm Mom scenes: artist encapsulated well that she is an adult, a mother of many, so she is soft, juicy and maternal. Now one artist is doing all the work, and it shows that they struggle to do everything.


As for the undertaking aspect - well, they replaced less than a dozen pictures, IIRC, of few artists. And I'd say some were really some of the weaker artstyles, but then they replaced incredible art for ice spirit scene with current artstyle. I can't find the original art, sadly, but IMO it was both aesthetically and technically better.

P.S. On a sidenote, they did replace some pictures in the past. For example, Farm Mom had entirely different artstyle for her scenes, which some people thought was much better.
 

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But what really draws the line for me is not how that person draws, but what. Very exaggerated and very poor range of expressions - most look like those stereotypical cheap porn movies where everyone is REALLY happy to see each other in most overacted way possible. "The Lusty Plumber 2: Backpipe clogging" limited edition only for 0.99 USD! And the artist draws each character the same way: muscular orcish war-girl, slim elven woman, farm milf - every girl would be a bimbo.
I can't agree more on this. The reason why I liked the game so much in the first place was the unique art. I still have the scene in the bath in my memory, female pc with Kat. It's some of the best art I have ever seen in a 2D h game, probably even the best art I have seen in a 2D h game made with RPG Maker. The art used to make every character stand out in a certain way, it added a distinct charm to them. This is lost since they hired the current artist and I am honestly amazed how polite people still are and how much they still care about the game. I am very disappointed, the art is unenjoyable for me. It couldn't be more generic and given how good it was before I can only call it a turn for the worse. They don't deserve the amount of money they get nor the general support they receive for ruining a good product.
 
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I like the new artstyle, and I'd be happy if they'd bring all the scenes to it. What's more, for every "unique art" (of which let's be honest, there aren't many) there are just as many shitty scenes that make your eyes bleed (like Meredith's pregnant scene IMO). Neither of us will get what we want, so I don't know why you're arguing. We can only hope that the new scenes don't disappoint us.
 

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I can't agree more on this. The reason why I liked the game so much in the first place was the unique art. I still have the scene in the bath in my memory, female pc with Kat. It's some of the best art I have ever seen in a 2D h game, probably even the best art I have seen in a 2D h game made with RPG Maker. The art used to make every character stand out in a certain way, it added a distinct charm to them. This is lost since they hired the current artist and I am honestly amazed how polite people still are and how much they still care about the game. I am very disappointed, the art is unenjoyable for me. It couldn't be more generic and given how good it was before I can only call it a turn for the worse. They don't deserve the amount of money they get nor the general support they receive for ruining a good product.
Similarly, I can't agree more on the art. But to play its advocate, there are some better scenes with it: corrupt nobles in that mansion is Summeredge, some of Xyless stuff. Mostly, however, I struggle to enjoy it.
 

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I like the new artstyle, and I'd be happy if they'd bring all the scenes to it. What's more, for every "unique art" (of which let's be honest, there aren't many) there are just as many shitty scenes that make your eyes bleed (like Meredith's pregnant scene IMO). Neither of us will get what we want, so I don't know why you're arguing. We can only hope that the new scenes don't disappoint us.
We aren't arguing as much as we are expressing our shared opinion in our own ways. Having a conversation for its own sake, basically, just a chit-chat.

There are however, quite objective arguments made against new style (for example, its repetativeness), so its not just a matter of opinion. And while I am not delving into technical side of the question due to my complete lack of expertise, I feel this style lacks in this department also. Shapes, textures, backgrounds - it all feels very 2000s-ish, very simplistic.

Yes, there was a tug of war between better and worse styles before, but what we have now is hard to consider a turn for the better. We can argue all day about whether or not this style in particular sucks but what is concrete is that devs are unlikely to hire new artists now. Which means while there won't be a worse styles, there won't be better ones either. So, nothing like glorious scenes with nagas or Clawyn (soul eaters, scene in Castle woods).

And for me such state of affair means that any scene that comes in Gold Edition would lose a few points just because I find wanting the art it would use.
 
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We aren't arguing as much as we are expressing our shared opinion in our own ways. Having a conversation for its own sake, basically, just a chit-chat.

There are however, quite objective arguments made against new style (for example, its repetativeness), so its not just a matter of opinion. And while I am not delving into technical side of the question due to my complete lack of expertise, I feel this style lacks in this department also. Shapes, textures, backgrounds - it all feels very 2000s-ish, very simplistic.

Yes, there was a tug of war between better and worse styles before, but what we have now is hard to consider a turn for the better. We can argue all day about whether or not this style in particular sucks but what is concrete is that devs are unlikely to hire new artists now. Which means while there won't be a worse styles, there won't be better ones either. So, nothing like glorious scenes with nagas or Clawyn (soul eaters, scene in Castle woods).

And for me such state of affair means that any scene that comes in Gold Edition would lose a few points just because I find wanting the art it would use.
Well said, we aren't arguing, we are just sharing our opinion, more or less simply having a little chat.

Opinions should be based on something after all, so it's only fair to have arguments that lay the foundation for them. The backgrounds are a good point though, I completely forgot about them because of how lacklustre they are. To create something like this in this day and age is actually way below average.

I dare to say this style sucks. There were so many different artists that contributed to the game and the one getting picked is one of the worst. There were even worse options, but low quality instead of very low quality is a weak solace. They underperformed and didn't life up to the potential even though they had a lot of funds, they are making more than 10k every month since years with Patreon. In my opinion somebody who likes this style has never seen quality before.

Maybe I won't even try to get the new scenes and just play it for the story and characters. If I like a h game then I now and then play it avoiding the h. Lilitales for example fun to play.
 
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Well said, we aren't arguing, we are just sharing our opinion, more or less simply having a little chat.

Opinions should be based on something after all, so it's only fair to have arguments that lay the foundation for them. The backgrounds are a good point though, I completely forgot about them because of how lacklustre they are. To create something like this in this day and age is actually way below average.

I dare to say this style sucks. There were so many different artists that contributed to the game and the one getting picked is one of the worst. There were even worse options, but low quality instead of very low quality is a weak solace. They underperformed and didn't life up to the potential even though they had a lot of funds, they are making more than 10k every month since years with Patreon. In my opinion somebody who likes this style has never seen quality before.

Maybe I won't even try to get the new scenes and just play it for the story and characters. If I like a h game then I now and then play it avoiding the h. Lilitales for example fun to play.
Precisely well said about day and age. We are living in time when stuff like Claire's Quest exists - that is what you call 'generic artstyle' nowadays, and oh boy that generic is way better! RPG-maker H-games made a lot of steps forward and Roundscape for all its mighty worth now looks like a dinosaur.

Yes, there were worse pictures in there, but getting consistent low instead of ups and downs is hardly even a solace. What is even worse is that this current antiquated artstyle is a new addition, which for all intents and purposes isn't a step forward. Game had many artist to choose from, including many that have already worked on it, of whom some were much better. And if someone do not trust me, they could easily go to hentai websites and just browse Roundscape gallery there to assess it themselves.

Yes, current style isn't the worst this game has, but it isn't the best either. So please do tell me, people who are apologetic of this style, was it really worth it? There WERE better options already present in game, so why pick uniformity withouth picking quality? We are talking OG RPGM H-game here, probably the second only to LoQO series. And LoQO hired fucking Rosselito for some of their scenes!
 

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So it will likely be released next Friday.

When they allude it may take a week more at most it means that it will take one more weak at least.

We will see if I am proven wrong. Game devs tend to delay as much as they can so I've grown a bit cynical about optimistic scenarios.
 

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Well, your whining won't change anything, except making you look more pathetic. All the new scenes will be done in the new artstyle so you can seethe about that all you want.
Excuse me? I was expressing an on-topic opinion in polite and constructive manner (presenting arguments, elaborating, etc).

I think I am quite fine, thank you.
 
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