RPGM Completed Roundscape Adorevia [v6.8 Steam] [Arvus Games]

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what of the legacy unlocked classes are usable? I tried to start as a stormcaller and it looks really weird
 
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MidnightKing said:
Counterpoint, use all that money they are getting to hire an actual artist instead to remake old scenes in a consistent art style. Not to throw shade at you, and I definitely get all the different styles being jarring, but AI for a game with as much backing as this is the lazy devs way out imo. Which is fitting for Roundscape I guess.

I'll be honest and say I mostly despise AI art and am a hate watcher of Arvus Games at this point (or at least whoever's making the big decisions, probably unfair to group the whole team as one). So I'm biased. That being said, there's no reason they couldn't. Would it take longer? Yeah, but who cares since everyone is always waiting after their constant missed release dates anyway. Would it cost them more? Yeah, but I can't fathom after raking in as much as they do for years now that they couldn't put aside part of the budget to hire someone. Look at Arenus as an example. That game was shit, but the artist they hired was easily the best part about it (and consistently the only art style). They could do a lot better with this game and actively chose not to.
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I agree with you, its obviously better to hire great artist to do all the work, but in practice, its impossible with this game, it would take years to redraw all the art because there so much scenes in this game, AI art on the other hand will take months at best and less if a person doing the work actually knows what their doing, sure it would look a bit soulless, but if its consistent i assure you it would be alot better then some mach up of different artists that barely follow chracter description with zero consistency of proportions and stuff like that, with AI you can just be consistent with everything with enought "retries" on generation and with good pc its not that hard.
I love the art in Arenus, but lets be honest, the game was in development for years, who knows how long it took for the artist to draw all the scenes and there wasnt even half as many as in roundscape(probably less then 25 percent even).
Look at other games that change artist midgame and how much of a setback it is, i know game is already "finished" but i feel like AI is a cheap way to reinvent it and if people dislike it its not like its the end of the world, old art is still there and they only lose a little bit of money to hire 1 guy to do all the work and probably gain from it no matter what.
 
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I agree with you, its obviously better to hire great artist to do all the work, but in practice, its impossible with this game, it would take years to redraw all the art because there so much scenes in this game, AI art on the other hand will take months at best and less if a person doing the work actually knows what their doing, sure it would look a bit soulless, but if its consistent i assure you it would be alot better then some mach up of different artists that barely follow chracter description with zero consistency of proportions and stuff like that, with AI you can just be consistent with everything with enought "retries" on generation and with good pc its not that hard.
I love the art in Arenus, but lets be honest, the game was in development for years, who knows how long it took for the artist to draw all the scenes and there wasnt even half as many as in roundscape(probably less then 25 percent even).
Look at other games that change artist midgame and how much of a setback it is, i know game is already "finished" but i feel like AI is a cheap way to reinvent it and if people dislike it its not like its the end of the world, old art is still there and they only lose a little bit of money to hire 1 guy to do all the work and probably gain from it no matter what.
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I think we are going to always be at a bit of an impasse in regards to how we feel about AI, but I'm glad you used the word soulless. That is exactly how AI art feels to me, and is a hard deal breaker for me. I would personally take the multiple styles over AI every day of the week. Artists interpretation can be screwy with proportions and stuff true, but at the same time you don't have mutated limbs and such like you get with AI. Regardless, even hoping they try and create consistent AI images without error is expecting too much from them in that I don't think they care about their game enough to do so.

Roundscape is a bit of a sunken ship in that yeah it probably is too late, I agree there. But people have also had problems with the multiple art styles for years. I can understand it being hard to find an artist willing to commit to a big project like this, but I can't imagine it would have been impossible at least some point after they gained traction. They even seem like they found a main artist for a lot of the newer scenes, before the AI anyway. Could they have paid them to go back and remake scenes? I'm not a dev so I can't say they haven't even tried, but I guess at this point we are just talking about what should have been. Arenus's art probably did take awhile, but that game was in development hell for many more reasons than just art.

You mentioned the old art is still there, but not in an official way to my knowledge. I would have to go grab a player made patch to put them back in. I would have much less of a problem if they did keep the old art scenes in game and let me switch to them at will (though if that changed feel free to correct me, I stopped following the development of this awhile ago).
 
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Friends, is the creator of the game planning to make a second version or is she just giving an update for this version?
 
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