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applepie68

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Oh this game is finally complete that’s great. I’ve been putting it off for a long time. The art seems a bit inconsistent is there any plans to make them all the same? It’s fine if it’s not as it would probably cost too much. I have a rape kink so how much of that content is there? I want to know since the last sovereign seemed to just have 1 and I just want to know going in to tailor expectations, still going to play regardless
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Oh this game is finally complete that’s great. I’ve been putting it off for a long time. The art seems a bit inconsistent is there any plans to make them all the same? It’s fine if it’s not as it would probably cost too much. I have a rape kink so how much of that content is there? I want to know since the last sovereign seemed to just have 1 and I just want to know going in to tailor expectations, still going to play regardless
1. Its not really complete. There would be golden edition, 6.0 probably, that would make some adjustments and fixes, as well as add a ton of new content.
2. Nowadays they use one artstyle and it is quite mediocre. If they would "fix" inconsistency, they would make this game significantly worse.
3. Rape fetish constitutes a noticeable portion of game's content. But that's if we count when Playable Character (PC) only watches (happens for both PC sexes) or takes (FemPC has certain amount of bottom rape scenes), and also rough not-quite-consensual-not-quite-rape sex. If you mean MalePc doing rape, its a much smaller portion, but it too exists and is easy to get.
Also, I once talked with devs and their top supporters on their forum (IIRC, its gone for a while now) on this topic. General gist was - in general, they didn't like the idea of adding more non-con scenes much. But I also notices that in latter version percentage of non-con scenes are higher, so maybe they've changed their opinion. Or maybe I am mistaken.
 
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DewyCave

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I think Tishtyra's Pillar quest is bugged for me. I got the scene at the spring, but the game doesn't consider the quest as completed. Since I already played a few hours before realizing that, can I edit the save to mark it as complete? I don't know if it will prevent new quests from showing up.
 

skaisher

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After talking to quartz im forced to walk into this fire monster that destroys me everytime. what am i supposed to do here?
 

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After talking to quartz im forced to walk into this fire monster that destroys me everytime. what am i supposed to do here?
Beat it. :censored:
It can definitely be a tough one. A strong Mag.Atk. Succubus with her special double attack and a Rukina with two neutral axes (mithril at this stage I believe) and it should be doable.
 

bambusik

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Is this playable on joiplay?
It is, but several locactions (like Ornesse desert) seem to be bugged there and appear as black screen where you can move (you can see it on compass) and interact but you can't see anything but compass.
 

applepie68

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1. Its not really complete. There would be golden edition, 6.0 probably, that would make some adjustments and fixes, as well as add a ton of new content.
2. Nowadays they use one artstyle and it is quite mediocre. If they would "fix" inconsistency, they would make this game significantly worse.
3. Rape fetish constitutes a noticeable portion of game's content. But that's if we count when Playable Character (PC) only watches (happens for both PC sexes) or takes (FemPC has certain amount of bottom rape scenes), and also rough not-quite-consensual-not-quite-rape sex. If you mean MalePc doing rape, its a much smaller portion, but it too exists and is easy to get.
Also, I once talked with devs and their top supporters on their forum (IIRC, its gone for a while now) on this topic. General gist was - in general, they didn't like the idea of adding more non-con scenes much. But I also notices that in latter version percentage of non-con scenes are higher, so maybe they've changed their opinion. Or maybe I am mistaken.
I see thanks for the info. I was also hoping you can point out which ones are the new art style as some of the art I really like and some not so much but the art style is all over the place so I don’t know which is new and which is not. Yeah I also noticed a lot of sex that walks the line as well as all the rape that occurs turns into “consensual” enjoyable sex, not really what I was looking for but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea so I understand. I was hoping to slowly make my character make more and more evil decisions.

As a side note I know there are a lot of bugs but I was wondering if there are any temporary measures I can take? I noticed burn debuff a never go away in the over world unlike other buffs or debuffs. Also all my spells that should deal damage don’t and instead only apply their debuffs do you know any fixes for that?
 
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GrandPaBrowning

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I see thanks for the info. I was also hoping you can point out which ones are the new art style as some of the art I really like and some not so much but the art style is all over the place so I don’t know which is new and which is not. Yeah I also noticed a lot of sex that walks the line as well as all the rape that occurs turns into “consensual” enjoyable sex, not really what I was looking for but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea so I understand. I was hoping to slowly make my character make more and more evil decisions.

As a side note I know there are a lot of bugs but I was wondering if there are any temporary measures I can take? I noticed burn debuff a never go away in the over world unlike other buffs or debuffs. Also all my spells that should deal damage don’t and instead only apply their debuffs do you know any fixes for that?
I can, actually. Here is news about oncoming Golden Edition:
https://f95zone.to/threads/roundscape-adorevia-v5-8b-arvus-games.466/post-9285502
Compare pictures there with pictures on page 1, in original post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/roundscape-adorevia-v5-8b-arvus-games.466/#lg=post-5355&slide=2
All new pictures are like that, as far as I know. Done by same artist, and not the best one.

I think original all-over-the-place variety of styles was much better than what we've got now. Sure, some artists weren't great, but there were always others.

About scenes - there are pure non-con scenes that doesn't turn into con. Small portion, but not a rarity. The only constant is that every scene is very vanilla when it comes to trauma, both physical and mental. No injury, no broken victims, no sadism.

But you have an option to make your character more and more corrupt - no matter how I love to rant about game lacking darker path, its kinda there. Underdeveloped, but there. I would suggest picking farm MalePC - he has by far the biggest corruption potential due to farm mom content (your protag literally coerces his own mother to become his personal sex-slave). Game even has an evil ending if you are into that, and you can corrupt three of your followers (Meredith, Ruksana, Clawyn). Devs also promise to expand Mayla content for more evil playthroughs - and Mayla is plenty evil. All in all, yes, you can go for slow corruption.

So I guess you could at least try it when the game would have a full release. Or some time after, when the game would have an inevitable bug fix.

Speaking of which - sadly, no, I haven't encountered much bugs and so struggle to give any meaningful specific advice. What you describe sounds extremely broken - its not suppose to work like that at all. Maybe its a specific character problem?
 

applepie68

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I can, actually. Here is news about oncoming Golden Edition:
https://f95zone.to/threads/roundscape-adorevia-v5-8b-arvus-games.466/post-9285502
Compare pictures there with pictures on page 1, in original post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/roundscape-adorevia-v5-8b-arvus-games.466/#lg=post-5355&slide=2
All new pictures are like that, as far as I know. Done by same artist, and not the best one.

I think original all-over-the-place variety of styles was much better than what we've got now. Sure, some artists weren't great, but there were always others.

About scenes - there are pure non-con scenes that doesn't turn into con. Small portion, but not a rarity. The only constant is that every scene is very vanilla when it comes to trauma, both physical and mental. No injury, no broken victims, no sadism.

But you have an option to make your character more and more corrupt - no matter how I love to rant about game lacking darker path, its kinda there. Underdeveloped, but there. I would suggest picking farm MalePC - he has by far the biggest corruption potential due to farm mom content (your protag literally coerces his own mother to become his personal sex-slave). Game even has an evil ending if you are into that, and you can corrupt three of your followers (Meredith, Ruksana, Clawyn). Devs also promise to expand Mayla content for more evil playthroughs - and Mayla is plenty evil. All in all, yes, you can go for slow corruption.

So I guess you could at least try it when the game would have a full release. Or some time after, when the game would have an inevitable bug fix.

Speaking of which - sadly, no, I haven't encountered much bugs and so struggle to give any meaningful specific advice. What you describe sounds extremely broken - its not suppose to work like that at all. Maybe its a specific character problem?
Oh yeah I can definitely see the difference in the art. Its better than some but its worse than others. Yeah I mostly find myself trying to make things work for me as well as making my character struggle. For example I chose Templar so initially I was very helpful and later on I still helped but was more exploitive, I still made sure to leave religious figures alone though. But yeah definitely feel the line there when it comes to noncon though. Some other games do it better some not as much but I like this game enough as it is even with all its flaws. I will definitely try this game when Golden Edition comes out, in fact I'm even planning on replaying this full goody two shoe and full evil (well as evil as they let) mode especially since I'm sure I missed things due to certain dialogue and event triggering by party member.

Oh no the bug wasn't character specific as some characters were able to deal damage initially. I first noticed it with demoness when I was trying to figure out if regular or normal damage had a higher result when I noticed her fear skill was no longer dealing damage after a while. I thought it was just her but then when I got Tishtyra her poison skill wasn't dealing damage either. The burn thing applied to all characters. Luckily the game is easy enough that it doesn't matter so its not too big a deal.

I think one of the worst "bug", likely a typo, was when my quest log told me to go to Xas to deliver slime only for there to be no one for me to deliver it too. Luckily after searching some more I read the quest description which had the right location.
 

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the "compromise" skill from succubus seems to be bugged. lowers the magic damage of meredith instead of increasing.
Oh no the bug wasn't character specific as some characters were able to deal damage initially. I first noticed it with demoness when I was trying to figure out if regular or normal damage had a higher result when I noticed her fear skill was no longer dealing damage after a while. I thought it was just her but then when I got Tishtyra her poison skill wasn't dealing damage either. The burn thing applied to all characters. Luckily the game is easy enough that it doesn't matter so its not too big a deal.
The devs really phoned it in when adding the skills and states, so a lot of stuff which seems bugged is simply programmed that way. Compromise applies MAT*25% instead of MAT*125%, reducing the targets MAT to 25% instead of increasing it by 25%. Other skills might say they deal heavy damage, but only deal normal damage; you can use certain attack skills from the menu for no reason (or effect); a heal skill is arbitrarily resisted based on the targets MDEF; a certain class's skills all ignore enemy defenses despite giving no indication they do; some states last until the end of combat or persist after combat since no duration was set for them; some skills which claim to heal/damage simply have a blank formula field so they don't. None of this is based on plug-in interference, it's all drop-down menus and fields which are standard to RPGM. I'm hoping it'll all be fixed with the class overhaul in v6.0 but I'd be surprised if it was.

One thing which is actually bugged is the way certain skills (like Twisted Image) hit twice despite not saying they do. That's caused by the custom animations that are used.
 

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Any believable date when we can expect the Golden version? So I can dedicate to play right now or wait for a little (months or so)
 
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Any believable date when we can expect the Golden version? So I can dedicate to play right now or wait for a little (months or so)
Optimistically i hope they realease on NY hollidays. Realstically they must realease Arenus b4 Roundscape, so half a year atleast
 
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Eiznhorn

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Find bug: then i go th the castle brothel female goblin recruitment event starts and after that activates mc's mom visit in that brothel, mc step in mom's model and i cant do anything. What do i need to do?
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Oh yeah I can definitely see the difference in the art. Its better than some but its worse than others. Yeah I mostly find myself trying to make things work for me as well as making my character struggle. For example I chose Templar so initially I was very helpful and later on I still helped but was more exploitive, I still made sure to leave religious figures alone though. But yeah definitely feel the line there when it comes to noncon though. Some other games do it better some not as much but I like this game enough as it is even with all its flaws. I will definitely try this game when Golden Edition comes out, in fact I'm even planning on replaying this full goody two shoe and full evil (well as evil as they let) mode especially since I'm sure I missed things due to certain dialogue and event triggering by party member.

Oh no the bug wasn't character specific as some characters were able to deal damage initially. I first noticed it with demoness when I was trying to figure out if regular or normal damage had a higher result when I noticed her fear skill was no longer dealing damage after a while. I thought it was just her but then when I got Tishtyra her poison skill wasn't dealing damage either. The burn thing applied to all characters. Luckily the game is easy enough that it doesn't matter so its not too big a deal.

I think one of the worst "bug", likely a typo, was when my quest log told me to go to Xas to deliver slime only for there to be no one for me to deliver it too. Luckily after searching some more I read the quest description which had the right location.
Oh, fellow fantasier! I too like to play like protagonist has a story of his own, but I would leave it to the end of this (increasingly verbose) message.

I very welcome you to replay this gem, for all its flaws there are tons of good stuff. As for the artstyles - weeell, personally I'm not sure that any of older styles were worse than this new one.

Its weird. Firstly, this style seems soulless to me and I'd prefer worse yet unique styles of old versions. But secondly, this style feels kinda different, I guess? Some scenes feels great, others mediocre at best - and its all one style! Maybe its writing that adds or takes from certain scenes, I am not sure, but generally it leaves me with a weird impression.

I also see that bug issue was explained by other guy (gal?), good. Surprisingly, VX Ace (or how was called, the previous engine this game ran on?) seemed to have far lesser bugs, at least when it comes to combat skills. It was also broken (Tish had blinding poison that along high DoT made any enemy almost harmless, for example) but I don't recall nearly so many bugs. Oh, well, I play "big club/magic missile go smash!", that's probably why I encounter less bugs.

As for quest log bugs - don't bother, mate. It was always utterly broken. Completed quests never checking as such, new quests not appearing, and in later versions I always encounter this irritating bug when at some point my quest log is just never refreshed - no new quests, nothing! Have to remember or google what I am doing! Not that I mind much, but it would be better if the damn thing worked!

I really hope they would fix it - this is by far the biggest bug of them all, and probably the most frequent.


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After Golden comes out, it would be awesome to have a Ren'py version. It would be a hellish undertaking for someone but it would make replayability more apopealing if the grind isn't there for every single playthrough.
 
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