Thats a realy long list, and I haven't played all of them but based on the ones I recognise there a load that aren't sandbox,Completed games:
Man of the House
Timestamps - Chapter 1: Unconditional Love
Cure My Addiction
Personal Trainer
Denos City
Spaced Out
Water World
Games still in development:
Photo Hunt
Milfy City
F.I.L.F.
Summertime Saga
Long Live the Princess
Midnight Paradise
The Headmaster
BangCity
Echoes of Lust
The Awakening
...
For me if the game has a free roam and/or map and you can do quests/events at your discretion and you do not have to do them in any predetermined order (and all this games have this) then it is a sandbox and of course you are right that some of this games have vn elements and you need to make the right choices to get for example relationship points but this does not make them not sandbox.Thats a realy long list, and I haven't played all of them but based on the ones I recognise there a load that aren't sandbox,
Man of the House
Timestamps - Chapter 1: Unconditional Love
Milfy City
F.I.L.F.
Betrayed
Taffy Tales
for example are not sandbox, they are deceptive in that they have open maps but they are extremely linear. Practically VNs
Betrayed is the only one I recognise that while being linear has some nice story decisions that might make multiple playthroughs worthwile (or atleast some save scumming), I strongly reccommend it
Sandbox is a tag that is misused alot,
The games I recognise from the above list that I agree are sandbox ara
Summertime Saga
Long Live the Princess
The Headmaster
The Twist
Take Over
Glassix
Time Loop Hunter
SuperPowered
Lab Rats 2
High-Rise Climb
Vis
Area69
Loser
Lewd Town Adventures
It is possible I am misrembering some of the facts of these games, but I'm fairly confident of my veiw.For me if the game has a free room and/or map and you can do quests/events at your discretion and you do not have to do them in any predetermined order (and all this games have this) then it is a sandbox and of course you are right that some of this games have vn elements and you need to make the right choices to get for example relationship points but this does not make them not sandbox.
The games I picked in my examples of "not sandbox", don't fufill this brief, they have fixed story triggers that must be hit in sequence, and there are few if any decisions that make any difference bigger than a superficial skipping of sex scenes.you can do quests/events at your discretion and you do not have to do them in any predetermined order
No worries, I do not feel offended in any way that you pointed out the shortcomings of some of these games.It is possible I am misrembering some of the facts of these games, but I'm fairly confident of my veiw.
I think we agree in general about what a sandbox game is, with the possible exception of an "open map = sandbox",
The games I picked in my examples of "not sandbox", don't fufill this brief, they have fixed story triggers that must be hit in sequence, and there are few if any decisions that make any difference bigger than a superficial skipping of sex scenes.
even unconnected scenes need to be done in order, for example you can't seduce the mom in F.I.L.F. without making progress with the sister and cousin (something that really pissed me off BTW, I had zero interest in them, I was there for the milfs not the skanks lol)
I might be prepared to give you Milfy City, because if I remember correctly you can revisit some scenes, but I still fairly sure you are forced to unlock them in sequence.
Taffy Tales at this point has only one decision (whether to make a milf wear a knights helmet in one sex scene) while it might become a nice sandbox game in the future at this point it is firmly locked into follow the triggers mode. you can't even revisit the sleep creep, you progress through 3 stages, and once the third scene is shown, it throws you back to stage 1 and locks you there as though you never had the option in the first place.
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Addendum
It occurs to me that it may seem like I am calling out Mario4don's complete list, I am only disagreeing with the games I specifically noted, the rest are completely unknown to me.
I apologise if my post seems confrontational/disparaging, it was not intended that way
And of course I agree with you that some of these games are not 100% typical sandboxes, which can be associated with the open world and complete freedom in the game, but this does not change the fact that according to the guidelines of this forum if the game has any elements free-roam it falls under this category.
- Sandbox [For Free-Roam type of games.]
I have to say I think that is a terrible definition for sandbox, Sandbox is supposed mean you get to play anyway you like, the ability to move around the map means nothing if there is nothing to do or learn outside of the central narrative.But after all according to the rules of this forum these games are still tagged as a sandbox.
Sandbox [For Free-Roam type of games.]