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Winterfire

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got to main menu, hit new game and it just sits there doing nothing
Are you sure it is not loading?
Unity hangs when loading stuff if you do not make a loading screen... Most people do not as VNs tend to be just a bunch of draw calls and it should be reasonably quick.
 

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Are you sure it is not loading?
Unity hangs when loading stuff if you do not make a loading screen... Most people do not as VNs tend to be just a bunch of draw calls and it should be reasonably quick.
ok it started working after deleting and unzipping again
 

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tbh, in today's age. The requirement for Unity is not really a huge threshold. If you can't run Unity its a idea to think about upgrade.
Oh i can run unity just fine, unity is just bad engine, with weird bugs unfixed by it's devs and often made worse by not always competent game devs. Like famous "card boiling" bug; does not matter what card you have it will work at 100% load from the moment you click exe to the moment you close the game... something that does not happen in any normal game and only syntetic stress tests do so.
There are plenty of well made game using unity and working fine... and just as many broken.
 

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Oh i can run unity just fine, unity is just bad engine, with weird bugs unfixed by it's devs and often made worse by not always competent game devs. Like famous "card boiling" bug; does not matter what card you have it will work at 100% load from the moment you click exe to the moment you close the game... something that does not happen in any normal game and only syntetic stress tests do so.
There are plenty of well made game using unity and working fine... and just as many broken.
Yeah, that does not happen.

Where did you find such tests? Granted that I did google first and found problems related to that but fixed with the user updating their drivers.
 

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I used to like this game during the beginning... Now it bores me... It showed great promise... A shame it went with the "collect as much girls as you like" type of game with zero stakes or challenges.. Just grinding....There is no feeling or weight to anything as every girl in the school can become "sex friend".
Most of these "work-in-progress" games seem to trend that way. Quantity over quality. Personally, I prefer developing relationships with the same girl over finding new partners, but I suspect I am in the minority. From what I've seen, the majority of ero games can best be described as "hit it and quit it." Once you've sexed a girl, it's like the story is over. That's too bad, as there is so much more opportunity for story after that. It's not that difficult to come up with 50 different sex scenes for one girl, and it takes less work than one scene for 50 different girls. It could be related to dev experience, though. It is possible the writers of these games are unable to present long-lasting relationships because they have never been in one.
 
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Most of these "work-in-progress" games seem to trend that way. Quantity over quality. Personally, I prefer developing relationships with the same girl over finding new partners, but I suspect I am in the minority. From what I've seen, the majority of ero games can best be described as "hit it and quit it." Once you've sexed a girl, it's like the story is over. That's too bad, as there is so much more opportunity for story after that. It's not that difficult to come up with 50 different sex scenes for one girl, and it takes less work than one scene for 50 different girls. It could be related to dev experience, though. It is possible the writers of these games are unable to present long-lasting relationships because they have never been in one.
I suspect that is done on purpose as they do not aim to be "Romance games", in fact, Western Games seem to rarely focus on romance whereas Japanese games (at least AAA ones) do.

My guess is that since romance requires character development and therefore a lot of time spent on that, most people would quit on it since the demand is quick hentai.
 
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Yeah, that does not happen.

Where did you find such tests? Granted that I did google first and found problems related to that but fixed with the user updating their drivers.
It never was drivers issue, it was issue of devs not implementing vsync in their games and shitty 2d games running at 20k FPS and boiling people graphic cards. Battletech was kinda famous for it when it launched (since it was one of bigger games with this issue). If you've implemented vsync then great.
 

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Oh i can run unity just fine, unity is just bad engine, with weird bugs unfixed by it's devs and often made worse by not always competent game devs. Like famous "card boiling" bug; does not matter what card you have it will work at 100% load from the moment you click exe to the moment you close the game... something that does not happen in any normal game and only syntetic stress tests do so.
There are plenty of well made game using unity and working fine... and just as many broken.
True, but that also applies to other game engines like cry engine, frostbyte, havok, and a lot more. If the devs/coder is bad at what they are doing. So you end up with raw computer power have to compensate for terrible optimization and shoody coding.
heck, I played flash games that almost shocked my computer.

Different game engines offer different options. If the creator want to use unity because it offer options he can't make happen in renpy, it make sense to use Unity. As the consumer/audience, we can't really cling to what require the least computer power and demand of creators to deliver on that.
 
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It never was drivers issue, it was issue of devs not implementing vsync in their games and shitty 2d games running at 20k FPS and boiling people graphic cards. If you implemented it great.
It can be a driver issue, like (in some instances) could have been the engine fault:
but if you turn vsync off (which by the way is defaulted on), I do not see how that would be Unity's problem :unsure:
 

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It never was drivers issue, it was issue of devs not implementing vsync in their games and shitty 2d games running at 20k FPS and boiling people graphic cards. Battletech was kinda famous for it when it launched (since it was one of bigger games with this issue). If you've implemented vsync then great.
Yeah that is a big issue. Sometimes you can override it with nvidia control panel (if you got nvidia gfx). But not always.
 

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True, but that also applies to other game engines like cry engine, frostbyte, havok, and a lot more. If the devs/coder is bad at what they are doing. So you end up with raw computer power have to compensate for terrible optimization and shoody coding.
heck, I played flash games that almost shocked my computer.

Different game engines offer different options. If the creator want to use unity because it offer options he can't make happen in renpy, it make sense to use Unity. As the consumer/audience, we can't really cling to what require the least computer power and demand of creators to deliver on that.
True But no big AAA game ever run my gpu so hot that some small unity games did. Most of the times you can force vsync but not always.
And there are plenty of games on unity that i love (Shadowrun series, and Slay The Spire comes to mind) and they work flawlesly since clearly competent people were working on it; but i always have "refund" option on hand when buying game on unity when it happens to try and kill my PC for no reason.

Oh and this is not a hate on dev of this game or anything, if he done things properly (and from what he said he probably did, so sorry @Winterfire if it seemed i was personally attacking you or the game, that was not my intention) it will work fine and i will be glad to play it... i was just burned by this engine so many times im instantly weary when i see game on it. I guess i just see Renpy as a perfect engine for those type of games from my standpoint.... but hey it could be worse, it could've become RPGM game :p
 

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I suspect that is done on purpose as they do not aim to be "Romance games", in fact, Western Games seem to rarely focus on romance whereas Japanese games (at least AAA ones) do.

My guess is that since romance requires character development and therefore a lot of time spent on that, most people would quit on it since the demand is quick hentai.
The Japanese culture is much different though. In western culture it seems like porn more and more moved towards fastest way to the money shot, rather than the journey to get there. Imho a good believable romance story is harder to write/do as well.
 
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Wait did developer changed from renpy to unity? That's some weird decision to make.
*Let's suddenly raise game requirements tenfold for no reason*
it was never renpy, it was game maker studio or something like that
 
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