Others Secret Care Cafe [v0.8.45 Patreon] [Rare Alex]

[Fogoly]

Just to conclude what ive read up above, if, at any point, Cynthia decides to cuck the MC without his knowledge or consent, its only going to be as part of a bad ending. This outcome will (most likely) not appear during regular gameplay. Theres legal issues involved, if they decide to split up over it (both being co-owners, and all). Bad ending, if anything.

Though i do have doubts if im right, given the last twins event for Rai, where Cookie asks the MC where Cynthia was (as the MC didnt reply to Rais messages during the night), and the MC responds with "...", so, who knows.

I think this should be the player's choice if they break up or not, but so far I didn't even talk about that. In fact I didn't know I'm so alone with this cheating idea, and I'm the only one here who would enjoy this little .."betrayal". lol

 

[astranabeat]

I'm not a sharing type guy so I never gave any pins to girls. Just use save to see gallery and then delete the save. Never play sharing route so I'm sorry if I'm wrong on something.

Are there any benefit for the cafe to let girls fuck customers? More money? From what I knew after read the thread it seem customers just fuck girls for free. Exemple gang bang scene. Girls just go to those guy to get fuck. Free fuck. Then why any girls agree to this free fuck and no profit? They agree to do waitess work but then player gave them a pin and said go fuck customers for free and they just OK. Why they aren't quit cafe work and work as real peotitute instead? Get fuck and get money instead of get fuck but got no money.

I'm not bash the game. I just not understand logic in this game world.

 

[Monosomething]

I'm not a sharing type guy so I never gave any pins to girls. Just use save to see gallery and then delete the save. Never play sharing route so I'm sorry if I'm wrong on something.

Are there any benefit for the cafe to let girls fuck customers? More money? From what I knew after read the thread it seem customers just fuck girls for free. Exemple gang bang scene. Girls just go to those guy to get fuck. Free fuck. Then why any girls agree to this free fuck and no profit? They agree to do waitess work but then player gave them a pin and said go fuck customers for free and they just OK. Why they aren't quit cafe work and work as real peotitute instead? Get fuck and get money instead of get fuck but got no money.

I'm not bash the game. I just not understand logic in this game world.

Currently, from what ive seen in a ~100 day playthrough, the entire game revolves around the pins and the girls "servicing" customers. More money, quicker stat gain, variety of events, skills for maids, that they gain from sharing events, etc. Vanilla route isnt implemented yet. Even so, it would really be weird if the whole sharing thing WAS NOT in the game. You have your GF who, without the pin, is loyal to you, while you bang the other maids... doesnt really seem fair, does it? Gotta wait a bit for potential consequences to be implemented. A scenario, where your "pin-less" GF cheats on you in revenge for you cheating on her, perhaps, but then theres a funny scenario i just now came up with, where after you cheat on Cynthia, she calls and complains to her dad, who comes over and bashes you into the ground:

MC: "oh god, its Cynthias dad!"
Cynthias dad: "hrm!"
MC: *turns into a pool of blood*

I too am not a fan of heavy NTR, because its absolutely illogical how something like that can work. Some "stud" has his way with your girl, while insulting and humiliating you, and hes not scared shitless that you wont just sit there and take it, but will, in all possibility, stick a shiv in his rib for it, and afterwards, feed him to the dogs, to get rid of the evidence? Shortsightedness at its finest. In this game, though, i dont mind it as much (with the current content). The MC cheats, his GF is allowed to cheat, the other maids are allowed to cheat. Youre more like a pimp here, than a victim of NTR... and you get a lot of pussy in the process (take out skill - use it with the MC).


EDIT: forgot the mention the most important thing for me: i LOVE management games. Im not so much here for the H stuff, but for the management. Yes, im that one boring guy, who continuously plays transport tycoon since 1994, and this games cafe management is right up my alley. If it also has H content in it? Even better! Hope the dev implements a sandbox mode into the game in the future (to keep playing after the H content is unlocked, or to start a new game with just the management bit in it).

 

[Rugerrell6]

That wouldn't work with the way the characters are written either as Cynthia puts mc above all else which is a nice change from all the normal netorase games where they are filled with netorare hints. We honestly have enough of those anyway tbh. This game is a nice change from the normal shenanigans netorase games fall into. As most of those are the gf just doing her thing while this one is the mc controlling everything instead of just being passive. Netorase gets lumped into going hand in hand with netorare way to much and it detracts the fun out of most games with it in my opinion as netorase is sorta of like a power play for the one who is sharing their partner in which even if the partner enjoys sex with other people and maybe even gets more pleasure from the stranger than their own partner(the person sharing the partner) would give them they would never betray their partner and that just gives a sweet sense of joy to the one who is sharing their partner. This along with the standard kinky things netorase brings (such as just the joy of watching the partner having sex with others) is what makes it really great to enjoy, but when you bring netorare into it, it kinda defeats the point as now you don't know if your partner really would betray you or leave for someone else. Which ruins half of netorase in my opinion. I really hope this game doesn't go down that route tbh as like I said before we have enough of those types of games already.

Have u ever met people that are into swinging? Most of the time it fucks up there relationship and they end up causing alot of drama over jealousy and envy and such and they end up breaking up. So its not only a possible scenario its extremely likely to happen especially when the MC has several options of women who all are infatuated with him. I dont know you but it seems like you just have a problem with netorare because you are emotionally attached to the characters. Nothing wrong with that but to say that its not possible because of Cynthia's character is just highly untrue.

 

[astranabeat]

Currently, from what ive seen in a ~100 day playthrough, the entire game revolves around the pins and the girls "servicing" customers. More money, quicker stat gain, variety of events, skills for maids, that they gain from sharing events, etc. Vanilla route isnt implemented yet. Even so, it would really be weird if the whole sharing thing WAS NOT in the game. You have your GF who, without the pin, is loyal to you, while you bang the other maids... doesnt really seem fair, does it? Gotta wait a bit for potential consequences to be implemented. A scenario, where your "pin-less" GF cheats on you in revenge for you cheating on her, perhaps, but then theres a funny scenario i just now came up with, where after you cheat on Cynthia, she calls and complains to her dad, who comes over and bashes you into the ground:

MC: "oh god, its Cynthias dad!"
Cynthias dad: "hrm!"
MC: *turns into a pool of blood*

I too am not a fan of heavy NTR, because its absolutely illogical how something like that can work. Some "stud" has his way with your girl, while insulting and humiliating you, and hes not scared shitless that you wont just sit there and take it, but will, in all possibility, stick a shiv in his rib for it, and afterwards, feed him to the dogs, to get rid of the evidence? Shortsightedness at its finest. In this game, though, i dont mind it as much (with the current content). The MC cheats, his GF is allowed to cheat, the other maids are allowed to cheat. Youre more like a pimp here, than a victim of NTR... and you get a lot of pussy in the process (take out skill - use it with the MC).


EDIT: forgot the mention the most important thing for me: i LOVE management games. Im not so much here for the H stuff, but for the management. Yes, im that one boring guy, who continuously plays transport tycoon since 1994, and this games cafe management is right up my alley. If it also has H content in it? Even better! Hope the dev implements a sandbox mode into the game in the future (to keep playing after the H content is unlocked, or to start a new game with just the management bit in it).

So sharing route just easier cause more of everything, stat, money etc. Did customers pay you when they fucked the girls outside the cafe.? I mean when event happen. Mc gave pins to help cafe financial but if customers got free fuck then what the point. Hook them with sex so they come back to buy more coffee.. Why is not just open a brothel?

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Even so, it would really be weird if the whole sharing thing WAS NOT in the game. You have your GF who, without the pin, is loyal to you, while you bang the other maids... doesnt really seem fair, does it? Gotta wait a bit for potential consequences to be implemented.

Cynthia already hints she knows about Sergil and the other girls in one of the events. She's just not the kind of person to care about it that much. Even if she's jealous she's just going to get off on that. She'd probably enjoy sharing Sergil as much as she'd enjoy being shared by Sergil. There's very little going against a pinless harem setup here, there's too much porn logic insulating from the consequences.

 

[Monosomething]

So sharing route just easier cause more of everything, stat, money etc. Did customers pay you when they fucked the girls outside the cafe.? I mean when event happen. Mc gave pins to help cafe financial but if customers got free fuck then what the point. Hook them with sex so they come back to buy more coffee.. Why not just open a brothel?

Every ability a maid uses (except for giving the client her phone number, though that one has its own benefit, in that you know what and who the client likes, resulting in greater income if you match a client you know everything about with the maid he likes) increases tips.

The take out and care skills - both increase tips: take out gives you a massive tip boost upon activation (ranging from 100 to 300%, so the maids dont "fuck for free"; plus, you can use it to get rid of the absolute parasite of a client - the fucking college student, who sits in the cafe the whole fucking day, whilst not giving any tips), while care should be used just before the client is about to leave (increases tip directly, depending on the level of the skill).

Flirt increases the time a client spends in the cafe - assuming you know which clients tip best, using flirt instantly on them will extend the time they keep ordering stuff = more $$$. Finally, its a maid cafe. Ive never been in one, nor even seen one, but im sure the agreement involves the chicks working there to put out, if the client so wishes. Doesnt Japan have a crapton of these??

Try not to get too attached - its just business. Youre here to make money, not care what your subordinates do in their spare time. If youre not okay with your subordinates putting out, dont give them the pins (though, currently, that will make this game a management game exclusively, bar the few scenes girls have with the MC), but know that it will reduce your income (you might find it hard to make ends meet, when you find yourself without money to restock at the end of the day).

Cynthia already hints she knows about Sergil and the other girls in one of the events. She's just not the kind of person to care about it that much. Even if she's jealous she's just going to get off on that. She'd probably enjoy sharing Sergil as much as she'd enjoy being shared by Sergil. There's very little going against a pinless harem setup here, there's too much porn logic insulating from the consequences.

While im aware that she does give out the "IDGAF" vibe, when talking about other maids, the vanilla scene of hand holding with Rai, if Cynthia was, at any point, aware of that, would probably make her change her mind. Its not as innocent anymore at this stage (hand holding, one of the most depraved and twisted emotional acts! only surpassed by head pats and hugs! lol), as it affects the emotional plane of a relationship, not the physical one (which Cynthia is completely fine with - putting out to some random sportsfans? you sure you love your BF, doll?). Im guessing theres also the matter ive mentioned above - theyre a couple and co-owners of the cafe. If either tried to make a fuss over it, the reputation and well being of the establishment would suffer.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

While im aware that she does give out the "IDGAF" vibe, when talking about other maids, the vanilla scene of hand holding with Rai, if Cynthia was, at any point, aware of that, would probably make her change her mind. Its not as innocent anymore at this stage (hand holding, one of the most depraved and twisted emotional acts! only surpassed by head pats and hugs! lol),

Then you're seriously underestimating Cynthia's depravity. If she saw Rai and Sergil holding hands then she'd cum so hard right on the spot that she'd pass out. That's why Cynthia is the best girl no matter your position on the pins, she loves it all and fits any playstyle.

Try not to get too attached - its just business. Youre here to make money, not care what your subordinates do in their spare time. If youre not okay with your subordinates putting out, dont give them the pins (though, currently, that will make this game a management game exclusively, bar the few scenes girls have with the MC), but know that it will reduce your income (you might find it hard to make ends meet, when you find yourself without money to restock at the end of the day).

As far as I'm aware the only income source you lose without the pins is the client events. You can still do the care flirt and all that crap without giving your girls pins, the game just uses the level 1 non lewd CGs for it. You can still level the abilities and get the benefits without the pins.

 

[Monosomething]

Then you're seriously underestimating Cynthia's depravity. If she saw Rai and Sergil holding hands then she'd cum so hard right on the spot that she'd pass out. That's why Cynthia is the best girl no matter your position on the pins, she loves it all and fits any playstyle.

So, shes like a robot, then. Though she has a scene, where i find her likeable (after she gets triple railed by the sports fans, the talk by the table in the morning afterwards), i still find it hard to believe she would be indifferent, or excited, after seeing her guy wooed away by someone else. Oh, and, im waiting for Amethyst to get some scenes, finally. Having Cynthia try to explain to Ame, why the MC is her man, while Ame menacingly waves the majcher in front of her face might be interesting...

As far as I'm aware the only income source you lose without the pins is the client events. You can still do the care flirt and all that crap without giving your girls pins, the game just uses the level 1 non lewd CGs for it. You can still level the abilities and get the benefits without the pins.

My playthrough wasnt a straight forward pin race, since Cynthia got the first pin (blondes are sluts, personal opinion), and the other girls got them much later. I stand corrected then, since i thought pins made more of a difference on income, not just the scenes.

 

[Trickstar]

Have u ever met people that are into swinging? Most of the time it fucks up there relationship and they end up causing alot of drama over jealousy and envy and such and they end up breaking up. So its not only a possible scenario its extremely likely to happen especially when the MC has several options of women who all are infatuated with him. I dont know you but it seems like you just have a problem with netorare because you are emotionally attached to the characters. Nothing wrong with that but to say that its not possible because of Cynthia's character is just highly untrue.

I don't understand what your point is, it's a video game not real life as well as people can definitely be happy with a relationship that involves sharing and swinging irl as well. I also don't have a problem with netorare, but there is simply no need to force it into the game. They way the mc and cynthia are also written doesn't support it as well. Some evidence of this is the fact that no sharing happens without cynthia first making sure she has the mcs exact approval of that situation (she also has a scene where she even talks about how she doesn't want the mc to leave her and acts kinda desperate about it). The Mc himself also definitely doesn't seem the type of guy to just sit by and let things happen if he suspects something either, he would most definitely bring it up at least in a friendly way or figure out some way to get to the bottom of it and deal with it tbh as he is kinda sneaky.

 

[Fogoly]

I don't understand what your point is, it's a video game not real life as well as people can definitely be happy with a relationship that involves sharing and swinging irl as well. I also don't have a problem with netorare, but there is simply no need to force it into the game. They way the mc and cynthia are also written doesn't support it as well. Some evidence of this is the fact that no sharing happens without cynthia first making sure she has the mcs exact approval of that situation (she also has a scene where she even talks about how she doesn't want the mc to leave her and acts kinda desperate about it). The Mc himself also definitely doesn't seem the type of guy to just sit by and let things happen if he suspects something either, he would most definitely bring it up at least in a friendly way or figure out some way to get to the bottom of it and deal with it tbh as he is kinda sneaky.

I never hinted that Cynthia should have a serious emotional bond with another man. I was talking about some running adventures, the consequences of which you, as a player can decide, not the "MC" in the game. I don't think it would hurt the game so much after the scenes we've seen so far. I accept if you think there is no place for this in the game, just the point of any NTR game should be to feel some jealousy when your partner is with someone else. But with a Netorase game, this only works in the short term because your girlfriend never cheats on you ..and there is no way for me to being jealous if Cynthia still thinks only of the MC while she is with another man...

 

[BrazzersNetwork]

the game is really fun, but the jumpscare caught me off guard, now i have to deal with limby sausage

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

I accept if you think there is no place for this in the game, just the point of any NTR game should be to feel some jealousy when your partner is with someone else.

Ya but this isn't really an NTR game. The tag honestly shouldn't even be here, but most NTR haters get waaaaay too uppity when swinging and sharing isn't tagged as NTR

 

[Fogoly]

Ya but this isn't really an NTR game. The tag honestly shouldn't even be here, but most NTR haters get waaaaay too uppity when swinging and sharing isn't tagged as NTR

Ye, they usually crying, although the netorase is also an abbreviation of NTR ..and the part of it.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Ye, they usually crying, although the netorase is also an abbreviation of NTR ..and the part of it.

No it's not. NTR pretty well always refers to NTR types A through C. With doujins it also sometimes refers to netori or FMC cheating that follows an NTR formula. For VNs where perspective actually matters to the experience it really only refers to types A, B or C.
According to the tag rules on this forum netorase shouldn't be tagged as NTR.

 

[Monosomething]

I just want to add that this forum isnt the place for discussing NTR. Get a room.

 

[Riujin]

Currently, from what ive seen in a ~100 day playthrough, the entire game revolves around the pins and the girls "servicing" customers. More money, quicker stat gain, variety of events, skills for maids, that they gain from sharing events, etc. Vanilla route isnt implemented yet. Even so, it would really be weird if the whole sharing thing WAS NOT in the game. You have your GF who, without the pin, is loyal to you, while you bang the other maids... doesnt really seem fair, does it? Gotta wait a bit for potential consequences to be implemented. A scenario, where your "pin-less" GF cheats on you in revenge for you cheating on her, perhaps, but then theres a funny scenario i just now came up with, where after you cheat on Cynthia, she calls and complains to her dad, who comes over and bashes you into the ground:

MC: "oh god, its Cynthias dad!"
Cynthias dad: "hrm!"
MC: *turns into a pool of blood*

I too am not a fan of heavy NTR, because its absolutely illogical how something like that can work. Some "stud" has his way with your girl, while insulting and humiliating you, and hes not scared shitless that you wont just sit there and take it, but will, in all possibility, stick a shiv in his rib for it, and afterwards, feed him to the dogs, to get rid of the evidence? Shortsightedness at its finest. In this game, though, i dont mind it as much (with the current content). The MC cheats, his GF is allowed to cheat, the other maids are allowed to cheat. Youre more like a pimp here, than a victim of NTR... and you get a lot of pussy in the process (take out skill - use it with the MC).


EDIT: forgot the mention the most important thing for me: i LOVE management games. Im not so much here for the H stuff, but for the management. Yes, im that one boring guy, who continuously plays transport tycoon since 1994, and this games cafe management is right up my alley. If it also has H content in it? Even better! Hope the dev implements a sandbox mode into the game in the future (to keep playing after the H content is unlocked, or to start a new game with just the management bit in it).

I agree on the "illogical" part... but someday you just realize that 90% of hentai porn is dramatically illogical lol
Even this one, with the girls that literally go from 0 to 100 makes me somewhat smile. Cyntia getting into a gangbang with people that she barely knows? Going to stranger's home without care? And then literally becoming stable fuck buddies?

Cookie randomly accepts to jump into the orgy because Cintya says "STF, PUSSY OUT and lets FUCK!"?
Rei randomly get herself into porn that becomes a gangbang with double ass penetration? And then become so uninhibited
that threesome and exhibitionism become awfully normal?

Every porn game is illogical and unrealistic, if there is a truly realistic porn game I still haven't played it yet we are fine with it because it simple tickles certain perversion and imagination... And just get off with it.

All of This... without even starting with Cuck, NTR, Harem games.

Typical NTR:
STUD: I have the power of BIG DICK, BEHOLD mortals! Reveal me YOUR PUSSIES!
Slut: Oh yes! You Alpha master race! Please! Fuck me! Take me from this retarded man without a backbone that I secretly hate and for some reason, unknown to me, I'm actually dating! Please, save me BIG DICKED SAVIOR!
Cuck: Oh no! This man is humiliating me and My aDoReD pussy wOmAn is getting StOlEn away from me! Oh no! Please god save... Wait, this... This... This... This is real live porn!
fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap

Typical Harem:
Girl 1: Oh my god! You saved me! Please! Fuck me! Adopt my pussy and pet it and my head every day!
MC: Oh you are fine! I Don't need your ever-eternal-forever-gratitude! ButSureLetsFuck!
Girl 2: Oh, you smell nice and I'm horny. Can I be your bitch?
MC: Oh, is that the problem? Alright, if there is nothing else that might help you. I'll Accept
Girl 3: Oh, you are the hero right? Can I be another one of your women? Of course, I have a very important reason for that that I'll not reveal because its too important.
MC: Oh well.. I don't know... The fac-
Girl 3: Oh I'm not a jealous type and I'm bisexual, if you want threesomes I'm in.
MC: Welcome aboard!

And before anyone starts 1000 word answer with how I'm being salty, joking, don't know shit about hentais or "this" particular game... I'm JOKING and this post is full of irony. I do play harem games from time to time and had a blast with some hentai games myself.
I just find the majority of them extremely silly even if enjoyable.

That's my 2 cents! Sorry if I went off-topic, I'll not continue further discussions on it even if someone replies to me.

Have a good one!

 

[Fogoly]

No it's not. NTR pretty well always refers to NTR types A through C. With doujins it also sometimes refers to netori or FMC cheating that follows an NTR formula. For VNs where perspective actually matters to the experience it really only refers to types A, B or C.
According to the tag rules on this forum netorase shouldn't be tagged as NTR.

EDIT.

Compared to that you are a harem lover, you quite well informed about the NTR types.
It was years ago but I remember already when I was new in this topic, I searched many forums about NTR, and the netorase was listed everywhere with the netori and netorare.. So unless all forum, and community I read was wrong, it's absolutely correct under the NTR tag. But definitely you were smart now, and presented yourself in a professional way. So you deserve a sweet biscuit

 

[Trickstar]

What are you talking about NTR has been part of the game from almost the very beginning its not being forced at all. The general impression of the game is about maids who do lewd shit with/for the customers to attract customers as well as have fun. Its only natural that ntr would be included in that being that the customers are fans of the girls and would love to have personal relationships with them. And the way Cynthia is written makes her perfect for ntr actually because she loves fuckin around on her own. She gets the MC's permission out of respect for their relationship but its something she obviously wants to do on her own. It doesnt matter if its a game or real life characters are characters they fight into a certain mold or archetype and Cynthia is the type of character who struggles with wanting her sexual freedom but wanting to have committed relationship also. But it will come to a point where she will have to make a choice between the 2. Which of the 2 are more important to her. And so far from what I've seen from her character she could very well choose to leave the MC to pursue sexual freedom. She even says when she fucks the Jock that it was the first time she ever squirted. If she enjoys sex with him more and Sergil seems like he is paying to much attention to 1 of the other maids she might decide to choose the jock over him. IF YOU GIVE SOMEONE AN INCH OF FREEDOM THEY WILL TRY TO TAKE A MILE EVERYTIME.

I don't think you understand the characters as Cynthia has always put the mc first in the situations involving her sharing and such and just because she enjoys it doesn't mean it comes anywhere close to the importance of her relationship and it has been shown that she cares far more about the mc than the act of sharing itself. Her enjoying the act is what is supposed to happen as her and sergil are doing this to spice of their sex life. I also don't understand how you think just because she squirted that she would prefer the sex with the customers over her relationship with the mc. Also just because netorase has been part of the game since the beginning doesn't mean netorare has to be in the game as well as if the dev isn't interested in putting netorare in the game then it shouldn't be in the game anyway as it will only lessen motivation as doings stuff your are not interested in will only hurt the product.

At the end of the day there is no point changing the flow of the game and the genres when something is already working perfectly fine. It just also doesn't make sense with the way the characters are written.

 

[Rugerrell6]

I don't think you understand the characters as Cynthia has always put the mc first in the situations involving her sharing and such and just because she enjoys it doesn't mean it comes anywhere close to the importance of her relationship and it has been shown that she cares far more about the mc than the act of sharing itself. Her enjoying the act is what is supposed to happen as her and sergil are doing this to spice of their sex life. I also don't understand how you think just because she squirted that she would prefer the sex with the customers over her relationship with the mc. Also just because netorase has been part of the game since the beginning doesn't mean netorare has to be in the game as well as if the dev isn't interested in putting netorare in the game then it shouldn't be in the game anyway as it will only lessen motivation as doings stuff your are not interested in will only hurt the product.

At the end of the day there is no point changing the flow of the game and the genres when something is already working perfectly fine. It just also doesn't make sense with the way the characters are written.

Im not gonna argue about it further lol we obviously have different perceptions of the characters and game as a whole. But I will say this. IF there is Cynthia cheating content planned I will gladly pledge as a patron. hahaha